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Newcomers AppGameKit Corner / Open ended question: can AGK handle background processes?

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JohnAD
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I've written a board game app called Kalah (a Mancala game); its currently up on Google Play. The current version was written in Python with the Kivy framework. It...works... but is problematic. Specifically, the negamax AI algorithm I wrote for it can take up to 8 seconds to run in the harder modes. The end-users experiences this as a "game lockup" while it is thinking.

So, my general question is this: can AppGameKit launch processes into the background and asynchronously continue while the process finishes? Essentially, I'd want the game to launch the decision-making algorithm into the background. And then the game continues running, probably showing a "please wait...I'm thinking" animation while waiting for the process to finish.

I'm happy to rewrite the algorithm into C++ or the AppGameKit language. But before I start, I'm asking if this is even possible.

Thanks in advance for any help or feedback!

John
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Ortu
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Posted: 9th Dec 2018 06:25
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So, AppGameKit does not directly support threading or asynchronous processing.

Using tier 2 you could probably run a logic / calculation process asynchronously as long as it was not interacting with anything that agk (not thread safe) was managing.

alternatively for tier 1, yes you can launch a separate process that can run alongside your main process but it is truly separate, they won't directly share memory or runtime states. You would need to get them communicating with each other, either by networking or possibly mutex/shared memory though I think that would need a plugin and may not be doable on all platforms.
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blink0k
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I remember seeing something where they used a shader to do their calculations in the GPU
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smallg
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Remove any loops from the thinking process and let the game sync while the AI is thinking but make sure it doesn't let the game progress until the thinking is completed.
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Carharttguy
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Only good way to handle this is as Ortu says, spawn a new process that does the calculation and communicate with it.
You can do this with the RunApp command, though it's only available on desktop: https://www.appgamekit.com/documentation/Reference/Core/RunApp.htm
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DavidAGK
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Would be nice to have even basic asynchronous processing. Even the abilirybto have a sprite continue to play for asset loading type spinners would be good.
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