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Puffy
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 11:33
O_O i never use correct punctuation... =\ it adds to my immature effect... hrmmm =P now i want everyone to watch this...
STEP ONE:
(( 1 ) right... cheek one...

STEP TWO:
( 2 )) O_O he has rotated 180 degrees showing the other cheek... cheek two... =P ok =D...

=D hope you all get a chuckle out that... now for the mods... that will work for only so long... when people start getting dizzy you step in...

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Mentor
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 11:48
paragraphs?...no, just a happy accident

Mentor.

Puffy
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 11:51
hehe =P... O_O i wish a happy accident happened like that to me involving money and a woman... but i am 15... guess i can have everything...

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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 11:53
:: sighs ::
well once again i seem'd to have caused an international inncident
Right now people somewhere thank the lord i'm not thier public relations guy

Hehee ... the post wasn't about dictating terms or bringing up old grudges.

Those people who aren't active here and have been members longer - i'm sorry its not the quantity of posts you make or time you've spent here.
Its the quality of help and work you put in.
Just because indi say doesn't have the same 1,000post count as I do - doesn't make him any less valuable as a member because when he add something it is usually in good sense and very helpful to all.

It is the members here who are happy about how things are run and acted upon here which is what i'd like to preserve.
And whilst yes this is a Flamewar topic, and deliberatly so - either we'll all fixx this problem here and now so we can get on with our lives or we'll seperate for good causeing a rift that would happen eventually.

Which happens is upto the members who are more RGT!
Why?
Because basically you are right now in our house ... I don't come over to RGT and decide to cause trouble deliberaly and I feel you guys should give us the same respect here!

The fact that Mentor things of this as the "Reserve" place just justifies this. RGT is the subsiduary company of DarkBasic Software - just because they have a move advanced forum, doesn't mean they're first string!
It's never the quantity of gadgets or pretty colours thats makes something good, and this is probably why alot of DarkBasic/DarkBasic Pro titles are never completed.

Because I think very few of you grasp this fact of making something fun and enjoyable above features.

For me and many others this forum is very fun and quite enjoyable in atomsphere and posts. We treat it far more like a high ping chatroom than an actual forum.

Yes it could do with a few more features which are on the way i can assure you, but there has been no call for the RGT members to have insulted the forums in the way they have done so since they got here.

Rich has made Apollo from Scratch, GuyS just edited other people forums. Personally I think credit where credit is due! If you think you can do better then you're fully welcome to ... no one is stopping you.

oki perhaps this is too much of a post and i'll sum it up for everyone in a sentance.

"We like our forum the way it is and have no intentions of wanting it to change, if YOU don't like it then you know where the door is but if you stay then please respect what has been created here!"

Anata aru kowagaru no watashi!
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 12:32
Now we're drifting.

First of all, if I had enough money, I'd buy a throne for Rich- because the Little Green Desktop is a fantastic site.

But this forum is NOT something DBS setup because they are so generous (well, perhaps they are but anyway...)- this forum is part of their business. IMHO, as a customer, I have the right to criticise their products as well as this forum whenever I feel I need to.

Maybe all those "RGT people" don't post here more often because there's a lack of features; and I may point out again that most of the present features don't work with non-MS browsers (code snippets!).

It's not your forum. It belongs to those who bought DarkBasic(pro). Yes, even to RGT people.

Ogres have layers.
Bitmap
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 12:45
I wish you'd all just listen to the puff

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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 12:53
hey!, I`m chilled , I`m so chilled out that when I open my mouth a light goes on

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Puffy
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 12:57
=P i noticed they are all ignoring me too... very annoying... hehe... O_O i think i will rebel against the system now... REBEL I SAY...

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Manic
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 13:24
i just googled little green desktop, and came up with this,
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=the+little+green+desktop

click the first indented link and see what happens

just a little diversion from the fire.

Manic

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Puffy
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 13:33
thx manic... =P very entertaining... who made that... everyone loves atari... O_O i think thats atari...

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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 14:57
Of course you have a right to complain if you feel slighted by the team...

However those from RGT who chose not to post here or use this forum, did so out of a choice.
Just because this choice is gone doesn't mean that we're to be barraged from all angles with this kind of acting which is rife within RGT.

I'm aware this isn't MY forum as you put it, and i'm not acting here as if it is setup and run by myself. I don't even act like that in my own OR quakeworld.
The point is that you can't expect to come here and expect to use this forum just as a backup, bitching to the staff who are under alot of stress and pressure due to everyones complains.
If you want a REAL company to go spamming on, try Microsofts forums ... oh but wait, Bill himself or Gordon Brisko won't actually be on the forums there to field them

Try to understand there is a REAL person at the otherend who is working thier ass off to bring you something truely amazing, just because you don't see the results in 2seconds flat doesn't mean they're not happening!

How would you like it if Rich turned upto where you worked, and started telling your doing a terrible job!
You'd probably have him kicked out, or go to somewhere he can't follow.
I'm amazed the team actually have put up with as much crap as they have from all of you.

And thank god they don't oftenly check RGT because i've kept tabs and it has been FAR worse over there.

I'm sorry but you've all been complaining about DBpro and the forums for months, it is time to shut up and live with it. If there is a bug by all means let the team know, but don't sit there and critisise for it... as at the end of the day you're using DBpro because you can't actually program greatly yourself, or can't afford to.

Just as the forums ... no they may not be as advanced as others or even the previous version of Apollo - BUT its bloody fast and very easi to navigate.
If there is a problem and bug then let Rich know, else SHUT THE HECK UP! you're not paying for the forum so you have no say. Atleast with DBpro you are - but then again I know for a fact most of you don't even own it, so once again you have no room to complain about something you don't actually own!

Look i want everyone here to understand this isn't some sort of "Get the hell out" post... it is actually a very reasonable request.

Don't turn here into your own backup RGT, as this is a full community of its own and as you've all noted not own'd by anyone bar DBS - so what give you guys the right to jump in and change all that we've been happy with?

I really do hope GuyS gets the server working very very soon, then ya'll can have your precious forum back and we can sit back and relax again because we're not being used anymore

Anata aru kowagaru no watashi!
Van B
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 15:33
Empty,
I agree, LGD (www.atari.st) is a great site, it's easy to forget how much fun 16 colours and an 8mhz processor could be. I did'nt even know that LGD was Rich's until a couple of months ago, I've been going there for about 2 years.

Vegeta,
I'm also pretty fed up with the complaints about DBPro, I only got it a few days ago, and all I tried was a 2D gui. Now it took 3 minutes to get it working, but then some of the paste images were out by a pixel or two. Now while I coded this originally in DB, I knew it'd end up in pro, so I used functions largely, stored a text description, width, and height for each image I grabbed, and all the get image and paste image commands were called through functions. Now the Paste Image command is not exact, but I don't know if it'll be fixed, if it's an inherent DX problem that won't be fixed, or what. But it doesn't matter, that's my startling revelation, it doesn't matter 1 bit that my paste images are a little off - instead of comming on the forum and bitching, I gave it some thought and I realised that I can use memblocks instead.
The point I'm trying to make is people need to be ready to amend their coding style and get a bit more advanced. This is DB PRO (can't I make that PRO any bigger!), we're gonna have to take time to get to grips with it, and be patient - good things come to those who wait.

Ohh and everyone listen to the Puffmeister - he speaketh the truth .


Van-B
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 15:45
Puff I hear u I think, we all should team up, cuz we are using da same product, DB. However, make peoples from RGT comming here and openning new posts all the time asking "Is RGT down?" is meanless. Well I will just keep watching this thing

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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 16:05
Vegeta, you are the biggest example of Sheep Syndrome here. You have sided with this forum.

And the reason why RGT is moderated more closely because it is bigger in terms of daily usage and topics. Fact.

I'm araid you have to accept it, but at the moment Apollo pales incomparison on terms of stats to RGT, but Apollo is only in its first few months. RGT has been going for almost 10.

And it's because of this attitude to fellow coders I am not visiting these for fun, just because they are the only ones.

You can be sure once RGT is back I'm not visiting again for a long time.

I love Star Trek.
Especially the Episodes with Starships in.
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 16:06
And when, if, the Apollo servers go down we'll be sure to treat you with as much courtesy as you treated us.

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Especially the Episodes with Starships in.
Van B
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 16:17
What?, Rich would never leave a forum down for very long, I mean it only took him about 6 months to get this one up - Not dissing you Rich, I'm just saying shit happens. At that time RGT/NMB was the only DB Forum.

If this forum does go down, I hope that Guy would reconsider some of the bans, for the good of the comminity as a whole, cos we all need a forum.


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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 16:25
Now it's officialy Flamebait

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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 16:32
>How would you like it if Rich turned upto where you worked, and started telling your doing a terrible job!

I never said that he did a terrible job.
But then, if you have direct contact to customers/clients (as I do) you have to live with it (as I do). The trick is to sort out the constructive and useful things.

Ogres have layers.
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 17:51
This is a great thread. Truly great. How can you label an entire forum of individuals such as RGT, class them as childish, question their attitudes and identify them as childish guests with little respect for these forums?.

Now, speaking personaly, I have been a part of this community for years, Long before most people posting in this thread. I have seen many forums and many users come and go. I browse the RGT, DBPro and BB forums as much as possible, I post more at RGT because I have agreed to moderate and administrate the forums for Guy. What makes me a guest at here, but not at RGT?.

I'm a MEMBER of the AA, but i don't ring them weekly. Does that make me a Member, or a Guest?. .

I have a couple of points from you posts:

"because we're all entitled to an opinion and there is no moderator who'll delete or move something without justification."

What in your eyes is justification for moving or deleting a post/thread?. Offensive posts?, threads in the wrong forum?, Flames?, 'community wars'?.

"I think the moderators here do a pretty decent job most of the time, just because they don't control how we act isn't a bad thing."

And I don't at RGT?. Please, you tell me what i'm doing wrong, and answer me this: If you have a problem with ANY of the RGT admin, why come over to another forum and complain about it instead or speaking with us?. Running to another forum, in my eyes is childish.

"they are guests in my eyes.
And as such should respect what the actual regular members do here on a daily basis. They should also respect how things work here rather than treating this place like RGT, because as ya'll can tell IT ISN'T RGT!"

So because I do not post as much as you on these forums, I am a guest, and I have little respect for the way these forums work?. Wrong. You are correct on one point though, these forums are not RGT, they are DBPro, regardless they are still DarkBASIC related forums to be used by the users of DarkBASIC, regardless of which forum they use the most.

"Was tired of them there, and am getting tired of them here too"

Tired of what, childish posts?. Me too, please stop.



All the best,
Dan.

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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 18:30
Nicely said Danny

Brilliant the ending - "All the best, Dan".

I personally can't wait for RGT to go back up, because there these sorts of wars are not allowed to become too big over there.

I love Star Trek.
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 18:37
Amen, Danny

"That's not a bug, it's a feature!"
"When all else fails, read the instructions"
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 18:37
Vegeta, you say we are unwanted guests. But if you look underneath my name it states I joined on August 27th. But it seems you joined on September 22nd, about 26 days after me.

It seems I have been here longer than you, so in the light of your first post, I think you are the unwanted "newbie".

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David89- That is totally uncalled for. You may be an older and more respected member, but calling Vegeta an unwanted newb is what we don't want. Even if he is, this forum is for encouraging newbs, as much as it is a playground for oldbies. Comments like that are not wanted here. Now the same goes for Vegetas comment about unwanteds of course. Everyone who has bought DB/P or any other DBS product deserves to be here. Anyone who is interested in DBS products deserve to be here, but someone who is just going to flame does not belong here (not saying any names, because that isn't what I mean), so if Raven Vegeta is interested or has DB/P or other, then he deserves to be here, unwanted or not.
ok, I don't know what I just said
Anyway, I welcome all RGT users with arms wide open, as long as they treat these forums as they would treat RGT. As I said before, any personal grudges or arguments from RGT do not belong here, and when the apollo forum goes down, the same should apply to temporary users of RGT. Everyone who is registered on this forum is a member,as on RGT. But if a user visits another forum with no intention of becomming a permanent active member can be refered to as a guest, and guests should act to please their hosts, or at least not anger them.

So once again: This isn't RGT. Don't act like you would on RGT. And to Apollo users, this isn't RGT, if you go their, please your hosts, because the last thing we need is a civil war between DB members.

This has turned into a childish post, with some mature people trying to sort out the problem! ie-Danny and indi, instead of taking the easy way out instead of simply locking or deleting the thread. Don't get me wrong, locking/deleting is necessary in certain situations, but in others, the problem can be taken care of, so no one leaves the post with a grudge or angry.
It's a lot better that way.

Alex Wanuch
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 19:09
I have a bad feeling about this

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Rapscallion: But I belive he was calling us unwanted newbies. I have no problem with Vegeta being here, but when he calls us "unwanted guests" and acts as if he should be here and we can't, then it makes you think "why not?".

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I suggest you all look at my thread called "Flaming" and take it into consideration. Vegeta gave his honest opinion, not targeting any one person in particular and just talking about the change in atmosphere. Just looking at this thread proves him right.
I've got nothing against RGT guys, nor anything against Apollo guys. There's no reason for anyone else to have either. Most of the people in this forum used to be (and probably still are) members of RGT, and we sayd nothing bad in the other forums. However, SOME (notice the some, i.e a select few) people seem to come over just to complain here saying RGT is better or whatever, and flaming people in this forum. If I were Vegeta, I'd think there was a conspiracy against him. There was a healthy respect for him, and suddenly people started flaming in every thread he answered in. I suggest, close this thread and ALL the flamers RGT or Apollo, just quit it, there's enough other things to be doing.

Whatever I did I didn't do it!
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"I've got nothing against RGT guys, nor anything against Apollo guys"

The point is, there is no difference. Most users here use both boards. I'm neither a RGT user, or an apollo user, I AM a darkbasic user. RGT and Apollo are both DarkBASIC Forums, so instead of DarkBASIC users from one playground complaining about DarkBASIC users from another Playground, why doesn't everyone just realise that we are all part of the same community. Code more, moan Less.


"This has turned into a childish post, with some mature people trying to sort out the problem! ie-Danny and indi, instead of taking the easy way out instead of simply locking or deleting the thread."

Locking/Deleting the thread is one way, but really its a Lose-Lose solution.

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I agree. "I've got nothing against RGT guys, nor anything against Apollo guys" was not meant as a distinguishing remark (you have to watch everything you say today ) but it reflects the attitude here. The atmosphere has changed, tho not because of either forum, but because of the people using it. I was (still am, in fact) part of RGT (tho not very active), and there's always a select few, on either forum, which cause trouble, and when they (against their feigned principals) switch to a, to them, inferior, forum, they give the other forum a bad name. There's no difference between forums, the forums or groups of people dont cause problems: its the individuals. People should be more tolerant, otherwise there'll be a lot more of these flamewars. Solution: Keep these forums for helping each other, not getting in each others hair.

Whatever I did I didn't do it!
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"Don't turn here into your own backup RGT"

wow, that's low. you act as though simply because we use RGT as our normal forum that we're useless, trashy, immature people who turn any forum we visit into a hellhole.

i think i know why you don't like RGT: it's so heavily moderated over there that your useless flamebait topics don't last more than a day, whereas here, there's practically one moderator, frogger, who can't rally moderate the whole forum (not saying he's a bad mod, but it's a big job for 1 person!) and DBS members only seem to post when a patch is released.

"so what give you guys the right to jump in and change all that we've been happy with?"

and what gives YOU the right to jump in and try to change how we behave? as if we really behave any different then people on this board! an i think that "we've been happy with" really means "i've been happy with", no?

you know what, i'm sick of being discriminated against simply because i use RGT more often. you constantly belittle RGT, you bring it up in practically every post of yours, and you even blamed Simple for being an "asshole" because he was "from RGT."

i will no longer post on this forum because of YOU, vegeta. congratulations. you're fucking it up for everyone, even people who SHOULD feel welcome on this board for the simple fact that they use DB, but the fact that you bring up the topic of "who's from what forum" is ruining it for everyone.

and no, you havne't "won at getting rid of an RGT member." you've simply pissed one off.

i'm looking at yooooou!
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Am I missing something here, or are RGT users now identified as "Refugees" and "Spammers" around here?? And here're somethings in my opinion:

1) Cooling things off doesnt sound like,"Ok, now you LISTEN here to WHAT I'M SAYING, and we'll forget the whole thing...chill"
2) Is it me, or are SUCH posts only appearing here, instead of **there**?
3) Another thing, MATURED ppl do not start saying,"OMG, another ONE of those?! Why wont these kiddies learn?!!"

We're users of ONE(ok,ok maybe two, or three..) SAME product. Both forums, RGT and Apollo are supposed to be SUPPORT forums for ONE SAME COMPANY.

So, in a nutshell, CHILL OUT!!!!! Everyone owns both forums, and I dont see what a big deal such posts are. We've had worse. The board aint yours alone. It's not your decision to say,"Hey, enough with such topics already! This is the Apollo forums, not your RGT playground!".

P.s., Whoa, finally got that out. I'm now open to any personal attacks or quotations. Be my guest, as I have had my turn.

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DrakeX: I couldn't have said it better myself. Except I do not swear

I'm fed up of being discriminated because we're from a different forum. It's just a forum, not a language. I'll probably get a better welcome if I announced I created Blitz 3D or something.

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don't say anything you might regret, Drake

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Am I missing something here, or are RGT users now identified as "Refugees" and "Spammers" around here?? And here're somethings in my opinion:

1) Cooling things off doesnt sound like,"Ok, now you LISTEN here to WHAT I'M SAYING, and we'll forget the whole thing...chill"
2) Is it me, or are SUCH posts only appearing here, instead of **there**?
3) Another thing, MATURED ppl do not start saying,"OMG, another ONE of those?! Why wont these kiddies learn?!!"

We're users of ONE(ok,ok maybe two, or three..) SAME product. Both forums, RGT and Apollo are supposed to be SUPPORT forums for ONE SAME COMPANY.

So, in a nutshell, CHILL OUT!!!!! Everyone owns both forums, and I dont see what a big deal such posts are. We've had worse. The board aint yours alone. It's not your decision to say,"Hey, enough with such topics already! This is the Apollo forums, not your RGT playground!".

P.s., Whoa, finally got that out. I'm now open to any personal attacks or quotations. Be my guest, as I have had my turn.

P.s. 2 Cooling off a little, I appologise for being rude. It's just a pathetic to see ppl STARTING stupid posts, and ppl who attack others.

Games resurrected Imagination and Creativity.
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Hey, how do I delete double-posted replies??!!

sorry for the double post. my internet broke up on me just after I hit the post reply button.

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You can't unfortunately.

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pah! i believe i'm getting very little somewhere very fast here.

Oki i'm going to think of putting this in a way that perhaps everyone will actually understand what is being said. But somehow i get the feelin' people are just unwilling to listen.

IF for some reason Apollo went down, firstly I doubt many people will get withdrawl symtoms here within a few days - as most of the people who are regular here yet not in RGT actually waited rather than joining RGT.
That aside, I'd expect anyone who did decide to go into your forum not to go about spamming about OUR forum there!
It wouldn't be our place to come there, even if we were members and just start posting as if it was OUR backup forum - continuting everyday life not giving a damn what you guys felt about our posts!

I was personally insulted whilst i was away on holiday by several members here, so yes this probably is more a post because of a grude - but what the hell gives you the right to come here and mess about with everything you don't feel is right, HUH??
You made your choices to stay at RGT, not me, not Rich ... YOU DID!
This forum isn't your personal whipping ground!

If you go around your Grandparent houses do you just walk in take your shoes off throw them whereever and then take food without asking if its oki? WELL DO YOU??

Yes you're a member of the family, and yes you're welcome here ... BUT you have to learn to respect we play by different rules here.

I'm not sure what the hell is so damn'd well confusing about the simple fact that this IS NOT RGT!
If ya'll want to know where it has gone, by all means make a post about it... but don't freakin' spam the forum.
Don't flame the users here without warning or justness!

Someone has noted that they're a member of the AA yet if they never call are they a guest.
The simple answer the AA is a paid service which is available on demand ... because they ONLY deal with break downs, and hopefully your vehicle is more relyable than a 20year old Ford Escort - then no you won't need to call them all the time, if you did you'd probably find you're membership revoked for wasting time!

The forum is here primarily to get help direct and to show off created work to all other users of DarkBasic Standard/Enhanced/Pro and T3DGM.

The actual communities as a whole is just more of an after effect of users getting along with each other. And destressing after a hard days work or school or whatever the heck people are doing these days.

THIS community has been extremely enjoyable to be within, how over the past week there has been incident after incident of RGT Native members who have almost literally invaded the forum, and used it however they've seen fit.
It has caused some very aggressive responses from all and alot of tension ... And I'm begining to grow very tired of most of you sidetracking the point simply to attack me for saying RESPECT THE DAMN'D COMMUNITY OR F**K OFF!

i'm not sure i can put it any more clearly... if you can adjust to here then you're perfectly welcome, otherwise take those attitudes somewhere else.

Just because our user base isn't as big, or active users - why should it matter? It doesn't!
Just because the forum isn't state of the art allowing you to do whatever the hell you liked, what does that matter to get help, or show off work?? It doesn't!
Is this Forum specficially for Real Game Tool members... NO its for DarkBasic members.

Respect our ways and feelin's - and actually give some freakin' curtosy towards those who work bloody hard here everyday

Anata aru kowagaru no watashi!
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>Is this Forum specficially for Real Game Tool members... NO its for DarkBasic members.

No, it's for Darkbasic users.

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1) There are 7 topics regarding RGT. That's Spamming

2) The players of the game:
2a) RGT Spammer
2b) Radical RGT defenders
2c) Nuetral RGT refugees.
2d) Radical Apollo defenders
2e) Neutral Apollo members.

3) Appologies from me for being rude, inconsiderate, and harsh.(I defend the RGT till the fullest, just as I did when a BB topic was brought into any DB forums) Yes, I AM APPOLOGISING.

4) My exact words,"Sorry to Vegeta and Rogue for my rudeness, sorry for my sarcartism, and anyone else who was offended. I am sorry.". Just like everyone else, I have been heavily blinded by being bias. Therefore, I did not totally get the full picture, until now that I've cooled off and realised the damages I've caused.

My Open Appology, once again:
I'm sorry that rgt members are spamming the apollo boards, and I'm talking and throwing personal attacks without thinking clearly. Instead, I've being bias. So my appologies to everyone, especially Vegeta and Rogue, if it would help make you two feel better.



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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 23:07
Sheep Syndrome - By what I deduce this means taking a side on whim and not thinking for yourself.

Indi - maybe it's a deep-rooted, subconscious gene in us that sparks a fire every now and again

I'd like to state, that I won't get caught up in this flame war, I'm just sitting on the side, commentating and taking it all in. It's quite interesting to see people take sides and latch on to their beliefs, or discard them, or refuse and believe that flaming's ok.

The resolution of a war doesn't show who's right, just who's left.

Who wants cake? I've got a little slice of hell for everyone.
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>The resolution of a war doesn't show who's right, just who's left.

Wow.

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Ok, I'm a regular at both forums...

Please stop, this is pathetic

Ok, so maybe I can't stop this or anything, I am pretty young after all, but I'll make a point hopefully.

I go to both forums, and they are both great, they are both helpful, and they are both great places to hang around.
Sure, now RGT is down I come here a little more often, but thats expected...
Should the RGT users be without a DB forum just because a couple of Apollers dont want them???
Can you imagine two forums arguing, When they are both based on the same product? Thats amazing... amazingly suptid and childish.
I don't want to flame but I feel I must a tiny bit...
Vegeta - It was So VERY stupid to start this post and you're pretty smart so you must have know this was gonna happen.
To others - You make it worse by arguing, you want a split community?
To others trying to help - Cool, you are the true good forums members here.
If your arguing and in doing so breaking up the DBP community, can you really call yourselves Helpful forum goers?
One thing Vegeta... you say to respect this forums ways and feelings, but I find the forums are very similar, exept for one major difference, this one goes slow and steady where as RGT you always seem like its very fast paced, I don't think RGT members can bring the bustle from there, these forums are mellow and will remain to be... As long as there are no more posts like this.

I wont read what I've just written so 've prolly said something really stupid

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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 23:11
I mean that's really good.

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Wow, that took song long to type I was no longer after Vegeta's post!

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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 23:14
No ones taking any notice of you vegeta, cos you just keep coming out with the same old stuff ( just said in a different way, cos no one took any notice of you the first time )

Like I said before.... this IS NOT your personal forum and we don't have to do what you want, how you want, when you want and where you want, just because you want it that way.

You're NOT in control, never have been in control.

And to be honest >> YOU are the refugee here ... cos you was booted from RGT. You are only here, cos you're not allowed there.

And >> YOU << are the one sparking all these flames off with your constant moaning about RGT members ( who just happen to be DBpro members too )

TALK ABOUT OVER REACT

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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 23:15
both RGT and apollo users have passion for their prefered board. That's why when little clashes happen, it turns into a firestorm immediately. But I'm sure it'll wear off after a few days.

Vegeta is being protective, and so have other forum users, incl me. But it turns out that being over protective might cause disaster. That's why I'm appologising.

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Denki, and all who wish to stand neutral and cool off the flames, it won't happen. I'm not criticising anyone, as I said it myself, but if you dissaprove of this topic, just sidestep and move on.

Who wants cake? I've got a little slice of hell for everyone.
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1 minute later than simple's post.

everyone has got their own points. And everyone is right. Let's just chill out and shake hands, ok?? At least I'm trying to. [joshualimm stretches out his hand]

I've said sorry, I've made the first move, and I hope that would lead to a chain reaction, resulting in a happy ending.

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Well, I don't want to move on as this is pulling the DB community apart, I'm sure thats what the other neutrals are trying to stop too

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Fair enough - Cease fire, raise the white flag and let's settle this over a dram of whisky.

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Maybe all we need is another friendly DB game creating competition...

Man, I miss the good old days.

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