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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / Will somebody please help me.....

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freekdesign
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 18:26
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Its about bsp... again

I know a lot of people have been asking questions about bsp and i've looked throught the forums but still havent solved me problem.

I tried the demo in the tutorials and the bsp map worked perfectly.
I downloaded a quake 2 map and loaded it in the bsp tutorial and it worked perfectly.
So i tried to make my own map, something similar to the dbpro one, a simple room with no roof, but when i load it in the tutorial code i see nothing!!

Why is this, does anyone know what im doing wrong??

Btw i used valve and zoners tools.

Thanks alot Freek
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xtom
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Posted: 30th Nov 2002 20:43
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When you say a simple room with no roof I think your bsp has to be fully closed. That means having a sky box or a fully closed room with a roof. Also check if the camera is positioned inside the bsp. Also what about about lighting? I'm not sure how bsp's show up, maybe it's really dark and you need a light in the room? Just general thoughts haven't used bsps much yet.
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freekdesign
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Well the lighting and all should be done already because it works in the tutorial.

Should be the same for positioning i think

I tried putting a roof across the room but still no luck, exactly the same result.

Is there any one who has a working bsp level who can explain how they did it??

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I've managed to get a bsp working 'alright' though not perfect. I used QUARK and Zoner's tools etc.
I made the bsp into a half-life one.
I used the source code that can be found in:
C:\Program Files\Dark Basic Software\Dark Basic Professional\Help\tutorials

And use the "0 making a simple fps game.dbpro" file

I changed the source code to accept my bsp:
'load bsp "world\demo2.pk3","demo2.bsp'

I deleted the parts where in wants to load things related to the sky. As this slows it down. I have my own wad file with the bsp to use the textures from Half-Life.
I also had to change the EnemyPosData:
Because the enemies were going throug walls etc.
One last thing I changed was the speed of how the player moved. As I had problems going up the stairs to the second floor. All of map is enclosed by walls and floors. Didn't use a sky etc. I also used quite few lights using Quark Editor, so to make things light up etc.
On my computer using my own map I get around 30-60 frames per second. (I have a rubbish PC, 550 MHz AMD K6-2, 192 MB RAM, 15 GB hard-drive, Windows 98)

Now the problems, as mentioned before I had problems going up the stairs.
Problems with texture resizing.
Problems od sometimes falling through world(Usually going up the stairs etc)

I'll post some screenshots in the next post...
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Omega Online
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Here some screenshots of my demo so far.
http://www.vulcan-omega.co.uk/demo1.jpg
http://www.vulcan-omega.co.uk/demo2.jpg
http://www.vulcan-omega.co.uk/demo3.jpg
http://www.vulcan-omega.co.uk/demo4.jpg

Hope my early post helps 'a bit'

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freekdesign
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Those shots looks pretty good.
If i could get something of that standard i'd be very happy

I'm gonna get quark and have a go. You mentioned the textures from halflife and in a wad file, what do i have to do with them??

Thanks

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Hello there, pleased to here you like my screenshots.

The textures I used was from Half-Life. Though what I did to get the textures into a seperate wad file was this:

I used a program called Wally where you can get from
http://www.telefragged.com/wally/

Before using Wally, I took a note of textures I used in my map. Write down the exact name to save time.

Start up Wally, then goto File then Open. Browse your hard-drive for the wad file you used. e.g Half-Life's wad file.
Open this file up, and up comes all the textures.
To find your files easily do the following:

Click on filter, then the box beside it type in the exact name of the texture file ie !watersilo2
Then what you do is export file into a directory.
Then do a batch conversion
The rest should be easy to follow.

I hope that helps a bit.

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No luck, thanks for all your help but my Bsp still isnt working!!

I did come across some counterstrike bsp's in my program files, i tried these and they worked perfectly(cept no textures). what could i possibly be doing wrong??

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Bsp support is Very dodgy when I try it too. Rarely does it work properly. I think the DBteam have their work cut out to make it usable...

* If the apocalypse comes, email me *
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