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Secret Shadow
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Starfox is da BOMB!

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Secret Shadow
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Need I say more?

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Just thought i'd show you The arwing model version 2

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Looking cool! Remember that the wings from behind in the original look like they are bent back a bit(unless thats the dihedrals). Also, to avoid copyright issues, why not call it the Starwing

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Posted: 6th Apr 2004 14:56 Edited at: 6th Apr 2004 15:07
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OMG THAT IS AN AWESOME MODEL! When do you think that you will post your latest demo of what you have so far?

(Edited)

Okay, maybe that isn't the right question. Anyway, what program do you make your models on?

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Well Haggis, i've deleted the Arwing test level since it isn't needed no more. So a demo would be a ship in the blue background. Exiciting eh until i can get the Corneria level finished of course.

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Do we download it from same location?

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Oksy thats better than mine I'll admit.

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What program do you use to model the Airwing, Fido? I really want to become an expert modeler.

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@ Haggis Eater: I think he is using Anim8tor.
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Quote: "Second I used Anim8or"


Also, you can tell from the picture


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Is the demo finished yet?

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Pretty neat demo!

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Ok here's whats going on so far.....

Firstly I'm not doing a remake for the following reasons.

-Very difficult to get a good reference for the levels and getting the right positioning (since it's 3D)

-Level Matrixs are long (i mean REALLY long like 1000x90000 long (Level editor matrixes can't use Shift matrix up 1))

-No "All Range Mode"! (Best damn thing i tell ya!)

-The Remake would be no different to the actual game and thus nothing new.

BUT this project is Still going on.

I'm going to make my own version of this game this will allow me to be a bit more creative and so i'm going to need to plan it out and make some docs and thus the project will take a little longer but the engine is still more or less finished (added mousemovement for added accuracy and i've updated Arwing physics so it feels just like Starfox64!!)

Things i'm considering:

-Make the game totally in all range mode (Like in Starfox 2)

-Have some sort of objective in each planet (Along the lines of: Find the switch to get to base to defeat boss, nothing too complex)

-Make a new arwing design

Anyways thought i'd just inform everyone in which way this project is going.


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Maybe instead of makeing a long matrix and moveing threw it, you could place the objects far way and have THEM move to you.

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Ok thought i'd do an update

Firstly I got it in All range mode with some accurate mouse controls which i'm quite proud of.

2nd I ported it to DBPro

3rd of all I added a feature:
Basically I've implemented an interesting idea thats a little different to starfox64, instead of different vehicles for different courses i made it so that with the touch of both mouseclicks
you switch from this:



To this:


(Unfortunately it just straight away changes theres no animation as i suck at it )
thiss will allow for some interesting gameplay variation

I'm still designing some senarios and missions for the game so the game itself hasn't had a major overhaul. But all in all i'm still working on it.

Ok gotta go to sleep.

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Do we download it from the same place?

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Your demo dosn't work. I downloaded it and it won't start.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2004 17:23 Edited at: 14th Apr 2004 17:25
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Yeah that demo is OLD and has glitches, i'm going to remove it as i think it's a hunka poop compared to my latest one. So if it doesn't work it's probably because of this glitch DB has changing resolutions. And i'm not going to release another demo.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2004 17:32 Edited at: 15th Apr 2004 20:46
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Just one thing. How did you code this? I'm asking bot you to give me code. I'm asking for advice because I would like one for my own personal use.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2004 19:27 Edited at: 14th Apr 2004 19:28
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One other thing. How do's my model look now?

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What happened!
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Why dosn't it display the picture?

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I'm sorry. What I ment was I'm NOT asking you to give me code. Could you give me some advice on how to do it myself?

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Posted: 16th Apr 2004 21:56 Edited at: 16th Apr 2004 22:25
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I haven't checked this topic in a while, anyway.

Advice errrr well what i do is i set my self little goal to acheive and focus my attention on it. Thats really it, coding wise there's not much i can say as it really depends on how you as a coder organise your work and data. But on a note

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UPDATE WISE: I've added an enemy AI system so now my game's base is finished completly and now i can focus on making the levels.
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cool

http://www.cysteine.tk/
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I only have classic.

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Damn good, the Starfoxes were great, and this looks great. For the sake of the entire DB community, keep us updated


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Very funny Fido . It looks really good. Keep us updated.

(Off-Topic : Zero Blizt you should check your signature request in the Off-topic forum megaton and scraggle made you a signature banner.)

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IMHO It could use a higher res ground texture.

Keep up the good work


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Ok i gotz a demo to show, basically this shows how the game will play, I'd like comments on how easy it is to manouver the craft around and how it plays in general. This demo is only here so i can get an opinion on how i can improve/fine tune the movement before i go into building the Main game structure.


Note: I had to remove Vehicle transformation from this demo as it's not working properly for some strange reason(The program ends) so i remed out the command.

Note 2: If you have problems defeating the guy, press 1 to increase your health

Here it is:
[href]http://members.lycos.co.uk/warhammer4000/Starfox ver0.12.zip[/href]

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Should change it back to keyboard.

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i would definitely increase the mouse sensitivity.The aircraft reacts way too slow..

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I've improved the aiming and added the ability to use the keyboard as well as the mouse.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/warhammer4000/Starfoxver0.2.zip

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Downloading now.

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okay,aiming with the mouse is now better,though not perfect.
if you're flying above the ground and u're changing cameras,the aircraft(or the camera??) is shaking heavily.i guess this is a camera collision issue.
Did somebody actually managed to shoot down the enemy ?? It's very difficult i would say..

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Its a lot better now.

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Funny, I get sent to your stored files page, and all I can find in there is Starfoxv02, and it is an early version of your game which has lots of bugs.

Edit: It's not an early version of your game, It just goes crazy on my computer.

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nice game so far! I think the controls are pretty nice, but could still use a little tweaking.

now it just needs to become a complete game!

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I liked it, but I found that:

o If you do a loop in 3rd person you completely lose sight of the craft

o No matter how hard I tried, I just could not shake that enemy. I think your AI is TOO good. There was no leeway and no way I could swing round and engage it without it following my every move.

o I dragged the craft along the floor at one point, it wobbled and had a bit of a seziure on collision, then it exited back to windows

Its nice to see a project like this, somewhat similar to my planned project. Keep going with it, cant wait to see how it turns out

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This is a cool demo
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thanks for the comments guys!

Quote: "o If you do a loop in 3rd person you completely lose sight of the craft

o No matter how hard I tried, I just could not shake that enemy. I think your AI is TOO good. There was no leeway and no way I could swing round and engage it without it following my every move.

o I dragged the craft along the floor at one point, it wobbled and had a bit of a seziure on collision, then it exited back to windows"


1- Yeah thats a problem i'm having with the set camera to follow command, im trying to find a way of getting round this .

2- I'm still trying to improve the AI but i agree that it's just too good because i'm still trying to find ways in making AI that doesnt involve it going at the player "Terminator style", i''m hoping to aim for it to evade attacks, circle the player, retreat etc.

3-WTF? <-----i will look into this

my ToDo List at the moment is:

-Fix all problems mentioned above

-find out WTF is making the Vehicle mode screw up and why it throws me back to windows

-Get a fair bit of the media portion done.

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Will the Blue Marine be in this game?
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hehe, nice sig-pic fido

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Sorry for not responding in a while, Fido, I had matters to attend to. Anyway, the game looks just about completed. Are you still gonna include the level editor?

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Woah I was away from a while and already your letting this thread die? . Nooo! The game is looking good so far Fido, keep working on it .

Or imagine the cries "RUN FAR" on a packed trainer! Somebody fizzing with the mouth becoming insane absolutely having an adjustment ROFLFLF
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Dont worry Pet Rat, i still am, but progress is slow as i got to revise for some GCSE exams but after that i'm going at it at full speed

but here's an update anyway:

-i got the vehicle mode working (YaY!)

-Added underwater sections

-currently remodelling my arwing to go with the NAmco arwing design

Not much i no, but ive mostly been cleaning and optimising the game code.

Ok then

and on a closing note...........

Always check your G-Diffuser systems

-Fido out

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Oh yeh, and add an option to use midi music rather than mp3 because I've been working on some music recently and I wanna see how well it fits this game but its in the midi format .

On another note, I was wondering how many tiles there are in the matrix you use... ..

Or imagine the cries "RUN FAR" on a packed trainer! Somebody fizzing with the mouth becoming insane absolutely having an adjustment ROFLFLF
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ok then...................done

To your matrix question: around 10,000 X and Y , no apparent reason why i did it that big

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