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Geek Culture / Manhunt video game blamed for Murder!

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Axelman
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Posted: 4th Aug 2004 16:41
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Just found this


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Red general
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Posted: 4th Aug 2004 18:01
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This is just another witch hunt - first it was violent books - then movies - then certain music (e.g. emimen) - now games

The psyciatrist said after examining the boy that his mental state was not unbalanced. The boys mother then went on to say that that statement by the psyciarist proved that video games unbalanced her son's mind.

If some people had their way violence of any form (including verbal) would be banned in books, movies, music, and games (thats right mario can no longer jump on evil toadstalls with feet as that is violent).


This whole thing was blown out of proportion by the word go - you see more violence and grusome remains in movies then you see in films.

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Posted: 5th Aug 2004 13:22 Edited at: 5th Aug 2004 13:23
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Quote: "I agree actaurus , stupidity indeed, and also these ultra conservaties avoid looking into their own lives or thier kids problems and instead shove responsibilty onto someone else"


For gosh sakes everyone, quit blaming the conservatives. Not *every* violent video game hating person is a frickin' right-winger. Get over it.

ON TOPIC:
I remember the parents of some of the Columbine victims were blaming Doom. At the time (1999), Doom was about 5 years old and I remember thinking it was ridiculous blaming a game that normal teenagers don't play anymore. The media just likes to blame the most recent, most violent game they have a record of--- this is why Doom was blamed up until GTA 3. Then it was GTA 3/Vice City for a few years. Now it's Manhunt, and it may be Doom 3. In 5 years from now, if there isn't a new controversial game released and a kid gets a spike in the head, they're gonna blame Manhunt or Doom 3. It's a cycle.

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Article on GamaSutra:

Quote: "New Twist In Manhunt Murder Row
New details have emerged concerning the murder of Briton Stefan Pakeerah, which the British tabloid press have blamed on the influence of Rockstar title Manhunt – leading to many chain stores removing the title from shop shelves and calls for all violent games to be banned.

It now transpires that the 17 year old murderer did not own a copy of the game, which should not be sold to those below the age of 18, but that 14 year old Stefan did.

Ironically it is primarily the victim’s family that blames the game for influencing the murderer and they have indicated that they are “saddened and disappointed” that the game has almost sold out across the UK, in the wake of the controversy.

Investigating police though are satisfied that the game has nothing to do with the murder, with a spokesman commenting that, “We haven’t connected the game with the murder and we’ve already made that statement, but some sections of the media chose to ignore it… the motive was robbery.
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And yet pcworld / dixons have said already that because of this issue they will be no longer selling computer games at their stores.

This is over reaction taken to the extreme

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@Gazzaden: I played Resident Evil when I was 7...and look at how I turned out

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Ozzy was bamed for 3 suicides because of the song "Suicide Solution", which wasn't suicidal actually.

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oh, and by the way:

@Drew Cameron: I was actually much more mature when I played more violent video games. But, in the ast few years, I haven't played as many as when I was little

And, at everyone:

Do guns kill people?
Or do telekinetic raygun-weilding monkeys kill people?

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I pick the second option.

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I've seen it. Space monkeys are everywhere

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Haha! I agree! The monkeys are taking over the world!!

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if i was attacked by someone with a weapon (ie trying to kill me) i would not go as far as kill them but i wouldnt be nice, and also i wouldnt kill someone on the off chance or for a minor (compared to murder) reason, just hurt them

what would u lot do if u were attacked?

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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 05:35
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Run away screaming like a little girl
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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 07:22 Edited at: 9th Aug 2004 07:23
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If I had a weapon(Like a stick), I would hit them a couple times, take thier weapon, and run away with it. If they chased me then I would(assuming it's a gun) shoot and miss and see if they go away. If they don't and come close to me, I would(sort of be forced) to shoot both thier legs(above the kneecap) and continue to run, otherwize, I would just run.

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Gico ever played teh game Alice? she didnt run

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Posted: 9th Aug 2004 10:02 Edited at: 9th Aug 2004 10:04
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Quote: "This boy was not a violent person before playing the game, and that's what is causing controversy with this paticular game - Manhunt. The murder *was* influenced by Manhunt, the boy admitted to it and his friends confirmed he was obsessed with it. His family did not know about the game's content."


Ok thats total bs i mean common the parents didn't know? For starts games have ratings like movies if the parents cared alittle more about there child then i guess they should have know what he was being subjected to while playing that game. I disagree with the game being banned it's art plain and simple it might not suit the taste of all the people out there but thats the case with any art. If you want to ban games for there content whats next horror movies, war movies, TV shows with shooting, guns where will it end. The simple fact is the boy did something wrong no matter where he got his ideas from and now that he realizes his wrong doing is going to have consequences he wants a scapegoat, i have manhunter myself played it many times and have yet to feel the desire to kill someone after playing it, fact is he was a sick individual to begin with.
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Okay.. I Completly Agree... Like I Was Raised On Violence When I Was To Little To play I Watched My Dad Play.. It May Seem Sick But Mostly I Was Pretending not To Watch.. Look At Me Now.. Well I Guess You Cant But Really I Listen To Metallica .. Play Guitar (Mostly Heavy Metal)
Play Gta Vc And Quake Doom Type Games. (Really Like Old Games). I Cant Even ImaGine Killing Someone the thought just turns my stomach. And I Read The News About People Suing Rockstar For Gta3 Or Something. Okay None Of This is really Relevant But Heres Something That Is.
Cant Find The News Post But..
A Woman Sued The Company That Made Everquest For Putting Out An "ADDICTING" Game Apperantly She Left Her Kid In The Car.. To Go Inside. Then Started Playing Everquest, Got Addicted, Left Her Kid In The car And He/She died So What Does She Do?... Anyone Know
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Quote: "A Woman Sued The Company That Made Everquest For Putting Out An "ADDICTING" Game Apperantly She Left Her Kid In The Car.. To Go Inside. Then Started Playing Everquest, Got Addicted, Left Her Kid In The car And He/She died So What Does She Do?... Anyone Know "


I never heard of that lawsuit...is it true?
(And Please Don't Type EveryThing Like This It Makes It Really Damn Irritating To Read)

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Did she win(i'll be VERY suprised if she did)?

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Im Not Sure Sorry Im Terrable At Typin' E-Mails Forum Posts Etc. Im Not Sure Lookin It Up Ill Post The Entire Story In A Minute
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Sadly I Can't find That Everquest One But I Will. But In The Meantime

In the wake of a recent deadly Tennessee shooting in which two teens shot and killed a man, the family of the deceased has filed a lawsuit against Take-Two Interactive, publisher of Grand Theft Auto, according to ABC News. Both teens have plead guilty to reckless homicide, aggravated assault, and reckless endangerment.


The game was implicated as an inspiration for the teens, ages 14 and 16. According to the news dispatch, the plaintiff's attorney, Jack Thompson, stated, "The industry needs to cough up money so victims and their families can be compensated for their pain... The shareholders need to know what their games are doing to kids and their families. They need to stop pushing adult-rated products to kids. These products are deadly."

The Entertainment Software Association reportedly responded in a statement that said, "Parents are present at--and involved in--the purchase or rental of games 83 percent of the time, according to a September 2000 Federal Trade Commission report." The statement did not mention that Grand Theft Auto games are rated "M" for Mature and are intended only for audiences aged 17 and older.

Quote: "They need to stop pushing adult-rated products to kids. These products are deadly.""

Stop Pushing These Products To Kids? Im Not Sure They Are. Its Not In This One But The Two Kids Said They Were Trying To Be Like The Game A 14 And 16 Year Old Dont Have Nuff Common Sense To realize That Shooting Someone Is Illegal. HONESTLY
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Quote: " A 14 And 16 Year Old Dont Have Nuff Common Sense To realize That Shooting Someone Is Illegal. HONESTLY "


I dont know where you live but in Florida at the age of 16 you are old enough to drive a Car on your own. My point is that unless you are mentally ill, at the age of 10 you should have enough common sense that killing someone is Illegal.


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Exactly! Its The Same Up Ere In Canada. Eh but I Think Theyre Gonna CHange it. Its Gonna Happen Right Before I Hit 16 I Did My Oral On Video Game Violence 2 Years Ago. And People Are Still suing For Dumb Things .. Like Oh McDonalds Made My Kid Fat And He Only Eats There 2 Times A Day. What Do You Think Is Gonna Happen really
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Yea, especially alot of teenage girls blame macdonalds and burger king for making them them fat and ugly. Must be something to do with them feeding the cows meat.

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imagine how much better technology would be without people suing companys and winning? just Money And Time Going To Waste Becouse Someone Cant Handle To Keep Their Kid away From A Video Game.
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You make it sound like kids are hamsters kept in cages and spend all thier time running the hamster wheel. Kids can get thier hands on video games one way or another (e.g contacts at school, parents at work, or just BUY one..etc)

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Buy One Isnt exactly An Option Here And Believe it or not Most kids in my town Are Kept Like Hamsters :. I Know A 14 year old who cant leave his street.

What I Mean By It Not Being An Option Is This You Cant Buy Very Many Games Without an adult
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