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Shadow Robert
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Posted: 30th Jul 2004 08:15
With the recent news that Doom3 had gone Gold and is hitting the market in a matter of days, it looks like Half-Life 2 isn't far behind.

A few days ago Doug Lombardi, Valve Corporation announced to a majority of Site; Such as http://www.halflife2.net, that Valve hoped to get Half-Life 2 gold within a few weeks for a September shipping.

Word got back to alot of people today (via ATI) that Half-Life 2 went gold this morning, with a World-Wide Shipping date to be set for the 3rd September.
Prices look to be relatively unchanged as well,
USA $50 / UK £35 / EURO €45

http://www.half-life2.com/


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Posted: 30th Jul 2004 09:00
I do not like Half Life very much or everquest 2 for that matter.

Are you a leader or follower.
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Then why post?

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wow, that screen is very impressive! is it a new one? i dont think ive seen it before... is it just me, or is the PC gaming community going to seem kinda dead after Doom3 and HL2 come out?

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Hey Raven, would you please change the size of your sig image?

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Posted: 30th Jul 2004 10:05
We've still got Halo2 in October
Resident Evil 4 in November ... so nah i think the community is strong.
There is so much hype around HL2 and D3 that somehow no doubt attention is going to be moved from the better titles that aren't by high profile developers.
Probably why alot of the larger titles are looking for a just post christmas release, else they'd be over-shadowed by the giants.

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Badger me, it look like a flippin photo Jim matey me old skip!

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*drool*
I'm loving Fall 2004.

...wasn't Halo2 slated for November 9?

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Or 11 November for Europe.


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The only sequal game I'm waiting for is Metroid Prime 2.

God, even saying Metroid Prime 2 feels orgasmic.


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I want to play Halo 2... On the PC (stuff the XBOX version).


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Will HL2 have the same silly system where, once you upgrade to have to be connected to the internet to play the game ?


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I'm Waiting for Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 which will blow all of your games away!!!

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Quote: "stuff the XBOX version"

how dare you

the xbox is cool
*though the pc version is better, but the xbox is still cool*

halo 2
half-life 2

can't wait

have you noticed that they both start with "h" and end in "2"?

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have you seen alyx on the half-life site, standing next to freeman?

bloody hell - that is what you call graphics!!!

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Posted: 31st Jul 2004 05:14 Edited at: 31st Jul 2004 05:15
Quote: " Will HL2 have the same silly system where, once you upgrade to have to be connected to the internet to play the game ?"

Steam? No, but if you want to play multiplayer you will have to use steam, as vu games have shut down the old way of playing half-life games (WON.net). It doesn't matter because Steam is very good now.

What's everyone looking forward to the most HL2 or Doom3? Half-Life 2 for me, it has much more involement than Doom ever had.

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half-life 2 - have you seen the pics of alyx *sorry to keep going on but phew*

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Quote: "No, but if you want to play multiplayer you will have to use steam"

Does that include LAN games as well ?

Personally, I'm looking forward to Doom 3


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Quote: "Does that include LAN games as well ?

Personally, I'm looking forward to Doom 3"

It does, but with Steam now it has a "Offline mode" which enables you to play the without been connected to the Steam Network. If you have at least one Valve product key you will get the rest of the old Half-Life engine games for free (Opposing force, Counter Strike, Half-Life, Day of Defeat, Deathmatch Classic etc.) I recommend you check it out, over 100,000 people are playing right now!
http://www.steampowered.com/

I am also looking forward to Doom 3, but I feel HL2 is gonna be that little bit better, time will tell!

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Cant stand playing games over the internet - it just gets so boring (or slow because someone's using a 56K modem).


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Quote: " Cant stand playing games over the internet - it just gets so boring (or slow because someone's using a 56K modem)."

I quite agree, it's either slow or you get some spotty little 15 year old, who thinks he's really "1337" because he can use cheats. However for LAN, Steam is the only way.

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Quote: "However for LAN, Steam is the only way."

Shame...


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I hope HL2 has a story becouse the only story i found on HL was on the box if it wasnt for the mods i wouldnt have played it
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Quote: "Shame..."

Well, you can with Steam connect it to the internet once, then use offline mode, from then on. But then you won't get auto-updates, another great feature of Steam. The only down side of Steam is at the moment they seem to experincing alot of Ddos attacks, which is bringing the whole network down. 100,000 very angry people.

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Quote: "It doesn't matter because Steam is very good now."


Where'd you get that? Steam's offline mode is total crap! This is how it works. You have to log in (must be online to do so) to use Valve products. Whatever you do, DON'T signout. I made this mistake and wasn't able to sign back for weeks. Of course this isn't a problem for broadband, but for dialup its SCREWED!

Oh and don't be surprised when your windows settings change, your gfx card starts fizzling, or you can't use DirectX. You were warned, Steam is bad.

The only good side to Steam was the addition of the tactical shield. So much fun on awp_map

Ok, back to the subject, HL2. Anyone seen the Traptown movie? It came with Condition Zero and I'm not sure it has been released (though probably). Was freaking crazy!

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Quote: "Where'd you get that? Steam's offline mode is total crap! This is how it works. You have to log in (must be online to do so) to use Valve products. Whatever you do, DON'T signout. I made this mistake and wasn't able to sign back for weeks. Of course this isn't a problem for broadband, but for dialup its SCREWED!"

I don't seem to have this problem, but I do have broadband, but I don't really see how that makes much difference, all it would do is take longer to sign in. Oh well. And trapdown was in the E3 2003 Presentation, the disc that came with Condition Zero is pretty pointless, it's just videos that I wasted my time downloading from fileplanet on a disc.

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Quote: "However for LAN, Steam is the only way.
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You can still play LAN with the old Valve games without installing Steam. 1.5 CS users can still play together.... Long live PodBot!!!

And just to clarify, you DO have to be signed in to Steam to play Valve products.

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Well unless you have a fileplanet account, I can see how that would be a waste of time

Waiting 45 mins for a server slot is no fun

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Quote: " Well unless you have a fileplanet account, I can see how that would be a waste of time

Waiting 45 mins for a server slot is no fun"

Well fair enough, luckily I'm a GameSpy founders club member.


Quote: "You can still play LAN with the old Valve games without installing Steam. 1.5 CS users can still play together.... Long live PodBot!!!

And just to clarify, you DO have to be signed in to Steam to play Valve products."

Yes fair point. But I don't understand why everyone is always so negative about Steam, it's changing the way games are sold,played and updated. It just makes online gaming, so much eaiser for me. I didn't even have to leave the house to buy Condition Zero, and I got to play it when I woke up on release day! I feel Steam is the future of PC gaming.

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Quote: "p.s. like the comic strip raven commander keen rofl"


Hehee, Scott makes some funny strips. I like his recent one about Geforce/Radeon people, cracked me up.

Quote: "have you seen alyx on the half-life site, standing next to freeman?
bloody hell - that is what you call graphics!!!"


Those graphics might be even more amazing if they weren't photoshop CG from Sketches

Quote: "Will HL2 have the same silly system where, once you upgrade to have to be connected to the internet to play the game ?"


Like Half-Life (1.2.0.1) this is a choice of the user.
You can either start standardly via the Booter, or through steam.
Unfortunately if you wish to update HL2 you *HAVE* to log onto steam and let it do it's things, and online games again won't show up unless your logged in.

Personally I run HL via Steam anyways, because there are more graphics options; suchas 32-bit which can be a pain to all alter within HL itself. But it isn't necessary.

Quote: "Where'd you get that? Steam's offline mode is total crap! This is how it works. You have to log in (must be online to do so) to use Valve products. Whatever you do, DON'T signout. I made this mistake and wasn't able to sign back for weeks. Of course this isn't a problem for broadband, but for dialup its SCREWED!"


I've been using Steam since the Beta, never had a problem apart from when I tried to copy HL2 Cache directly into it updating with the Beta version... it DID NOT like that
Took me a valve engineer to figure out how to set it back up.

I kept hearing horror stories about Steam, each time I heard one I'd deliberatly log-in and try to break it how they claim it broke. Can't say that it has ever acted incorrectly for me. Don't understand why ook hate it so.

Quote: "Oh and don't be surprised when your windows settings change, your gfx card starts fizzling, or you can't use DirectX. You were warned, Steam is bad."


:: Has a library of 12 different Videos cards that change often from NVIDIA/ATI/S3 manufacturers and has never had a problem with Steam ::

Quote: "The only down side of Steam is at the moment they seem to experincing alot of Ddos attacks, which is bringing the whole network down. 100,000 very angry people."


This is nothing to do with Steam though, this has every to do with twats who want to attack a company on hear'say.
Quite frankly I'm personally getting sick and tired of hearing of these DDoS attacks or worse experiencing the aftershocks of them, it is something I'm taking extremely seriously with a new project of mine and have been investigating the legal possible application of a hunter virus...
If you don't know what a hunter virus, try a search for PolyMorph 'SweetJustice', one of the best virus ever created specifically for hackers to get a surprise.

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Yes, thats the most annoying thing about the DDoS attacks, theres not alot you can do... Stupid "l33t haxors".... That hunter virus thing sounds pretty sweet.

@Raven-
Glad to find someone else who agrees Steam is a good program. Everyone else I know hates it. Even so 125,000 users can't really be wrong:
http://www.steampowered.com/status/status.html

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Yeah, most of the only use it cause they're force too though... else they can't PlayerKill in CS online without it

Personally I only tend to play the more obscure games on it.
Used to play Day of Defeat, hell i was even on the Dev Team back in 2000 ... but kinda lost the will to play at 1.3, the guys wanted to continue focusing on the multiplayer and didn't want to give me and the team working on the single player the support we needed.
So it all fizzled out

It's a pitty cause it was just starting to be a very good single player game.

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Wow, you were on the Dod dev team! A single player version would of been great. What were you doing on the team? Coding, modeling, textures etc.

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Level and Character Modelling

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FPS really are the most boring games ever IMHO , same with RPG's
But I'll contradict myself and say that I'm looking foward to Stranger by ODDWORLD with a passion. (Am a huge fan of Oddworld, they sent me some cool merchandise yesterday)

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@Drew Cameron-
FPS can get boring if you play them for ages, but doesn't everything?

@Raven-
I can't seem to find a link for a news story relating to Half-Life2 going gold today, can you tell me where you go the info from? Thanks.

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ATI Developer newsletter

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half-life 2 also has a great modding package already released...softimage xsi..
@android nice pic...joanna dark is cool...i had that poster

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I didn't find any FPS game interesting enough to play it longer than a couple of hours. Well, except for Doom 1 when it came out. To me they're more or less tech-demos. Partly impressive but not very entertaining.


Quote: "Wow, you were on the Dod dev team!"

No, he wasn't.

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One FPS game that kept me going was the demo for Painkiller. Man I spent so many hours on that thing, it was a little violent and weird, and lagged this crummy old computer of mine, but the guns were just so fun to use. And for the first time I was actually concerned about the giant boss at the end of a level. Whenever I'd see these guys it was like okay, another boss where they ran out of creative ideas or something-I'll just hit it in the balls.

But the guardian made me sit up and think "holy s**t that's one bad boss".

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The only one that 'did it' for me was Max Payne 2 - that was good... I got pretty bored with UT2004

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Quote: "Quote: "Wow, you were on the Dod dev team!"
No, he wasn't."


Report one.

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Quote: "Why so little love for HL2 round these parts?"

Steam mainly - having to use it to play a LAN game of HL2 is a trifle annoying...


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The other question now I resolved the Steam one is : Are the multiplayer maps large ? Halo ones are just about right for two people (Operation Typhoon ones are way too large as was Delta Force's).


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Quote: " Raven, Can I get a quote from that ATi Dev Newsletter?"


I don't get the newletter, my personal email is being snubbed at the moment. Need to slap Keith Antio when I seem him for that

you'll have to wait til monday when i get back to work.

Quote: "Steam mainly - having to use it to play a LAN game of HL2 is a trifle annoying..."


Steam is the backbone of the networking system it uses Nick. You don't have to login to use Steam though, I have a Licensed copy of the Half-Life Engine using Source now. I'll see about showing you sometime.
It's a good system, as it'll stop people stealing your pin-code; which currently is the only gripe i have with steam.

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I presume Steam wont let you run multiple copies of the game on different computers...


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Quote: "Licensed you say? What makes you so special?"


I payed for it
There's a good business relationship between RavenStudio/Puff Interactive and Valve currently.
As such got a nice offer on the original HL Source, that said I wasn't going to shell out the better part of $300K for the HL2 source; that'd be just nuts.

Quote: " I presume Steam wont let you run multiple copies of the game on different computers.."


If you plan to play online, you can only use it from a single IP at a time. Over a Lan it doesn't mind, for single player it disc checks; I've tried copying the CD a number of times but everytime it doesn't copy the protection just like PS games won't. Guess i need to *mod* my PC bios hehee

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Quote: "There's a good business relationship between RavenStudio/Puff Interactive and Valve currently."

LOL. You really expect someone to believe that?
Stop lying, Raven, cause I'm sure that telling lies is against the forum rules.

Yeah, yeah I know report 3.

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Posted: 1st Aug 2004 01:46 Edited at: 1st Aug 2004 02:20
Quote: "Doug Lombardi Update Comment!
7/31/2004 7:33 PST | Half-Life 2 | by nagash
The Half-Life Radio crew had updates on their show last night from VALVe's Doug Lombardi, about Half-Life 2. He has said that they are not planning to release new screen shots or anymore "hands on" previews of Half-Life 2 at the moment, but he has also confirmed that VALVe are still on track to send a RC out to Vivendi,
"We are planning to deliver a release candidate to Vivendi in August and we're hoping to see the product on store shelves this fall but we do not have a confirmed ship date at this time."
Doug doesn't need anymore emails asking if this is true, he can only answer so many a day, so keep his inbox clean and let him do what he does best."


September seems pretty reasonable...


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Jimmy's got a new idea for a APOLLOLAME comic, Raven, you are going to make me famous if you keep this up.


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