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Geek Culture / A tribute to RPGamer

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ArcAngel
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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 05:10
RPGamer cool it man, you've been lockin threads left and right. Mainly in the team request forum, well thats whats its there for is it not? You need to loosen up and give people a chance to get team members there way. Other wise every thread is going to be in the general board because there posts get locked by people like you.This forum wouldn't be fun if it wasn't for the random comments of "He makes good coffee too" lol.

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isnt it the post that matters + HOW is that a tribute?

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But if its irrelevant then it should be locked.


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Maybe he just tries to be sure that no team will beat the eternal destiny team.


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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 05:25
Quote: "...Other wise every thread is going to be in the general board..."


wanna bet?


No, slagging off on the RP-man, he's doing a great job in that attrocity of a forum (no offense)


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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 05:30
Oh I agree 100% Alot of what he does block i laugh at because he should and it's mostly stupid. But when you have someone asking if anyone would like to join a team and gets blocked I don't know about that one. I guess I'm just sticking up for the little guy lol.

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Quote: "Maybe he just tries to be sure that no team will beat the eternal destiny team."


isn't that irrelavent? It's this whole post going to be locked now? See thats what I'm talking about too. I know moderators have the option to delete a post, and not a whole thread.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 06:08
Quote: "isn't that irrelavent? It's this whole post going to be locked now?"


I think it was a joke hense the ninja smilie


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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 06:15
The team requests board has been purged.

Abide by the many and extensive rules and templates and the thread won't be locked.

And calling somebody stupid is not a good way to get somebody on your side

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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 06:42
Quote: "But when you have someone asking if anyone would like to join a team and gets blocked I don't know about that one."


It's not "what" they ask, but rather "how" they ask it. If the offending posters took even 3 minutes to read how to format a proper template, there wouldn't be the need for all the padlocks.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 06:49
Rich is an idiot letting kids run the forums.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 06:56
Well it was either tidy it up or loose it - it's still to prove itself as a useful entity for more than a handful of projects. I reckon it's good to induce some discipline into that forum because discipline is exactly what it takes to get anywhere.


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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 07:05
Well said Van.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 07:11 Edited at: 15th Sep 2004 07:19
Yea all hell will break lose if threads dun get locked. No enforcement = threads like

I WANT MAKE GAME TEMA PZZZ

Left and right How about none of the mods touch the team request area and see how it goes Should be fun.

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BTW I count 3 threads on the front page I have locked. If thats left and right to you then...

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=39120&b=9

Tell me that didnt deserve a lock.

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=39011&b=9

Wheres the info on the game?

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=38626&b=9

That one the first post got deleted as the guy claimed he was a company and requested a HUGE team for 3 projects and asking for personal information from people.


If you think these posts were amazing team requests, oh well. Requesting huge teams, not posting anything about your game and asking for peoples personal infomration like phone number and address is against the forum rules. Maybe you should read up on them.


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Quote: "How about none of the mods touch the team request area and see how it goes "


NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Seriously though, the mods do a great job and it's all too easy to tell them they're doing something wrong without realising what a mess the forums would be without them.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 08:11
Quote: "Rich is an idiot letting kids run the forums."


And you implying something

RPG has been a mod for ages, and informed us all in the mods board about his cleaning up. We all endorse his actions, all he's done is lock a few rubbish team requests.

RPG has done a fine job keeping that monster of a forum in line, and locking four or so posts will not do any harm whatsoever.



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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 08:51
Quote: "Rich is an idiot letting kids run the forums."

Builds character in the young people.

I stopped even looking at that board for a long time because of the posts like those that RPGamer recently locked. Now I actually go through and read some of the team posting every once in a while, it's helping the success of that board, otherwise the only reason it's there is for updates on Teh Hizzle.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 10:58 Edited at: 15th Sep 2004 10:59
I liked the team request to make the next Star Wars Galaxies Post... lol

Anyhow most of the stuff in Team request is stupid stuff that needs to be locked.


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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 11:02
Quote: "RPGamer cool it man, you've been lockin threads left and right."


I count 3 threads in TR that he locked.

That is hardly excessive.

Personally I wanted to nuke the entire board, most of the people in there haven't a damn clue what they are doing and its a breeding ground for flamebait, but RPG said he could clean it up and bit and wanted to keep it, so I let it be.

Deal with the locked threads, if you can't handle them then I'm happy to just remove the whole board.

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Quote: "let it be."
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Personaly I think that Mouse would be the evil post eating monster, I don't know about everyone else(and I don't really care(j/k)) but, HE KEEPS DELETING MY POSTS!!! We need some good nonsense once in a while. Maybe it's just the old Cat(or Manticore) VS Mouse thing.

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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 11:17
Posssssstssssss? What possssssstssss?



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That one in the cristian coders thread! I'm still sore about that, *cries* my poor post, WHAAAAA!!!

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okok, if yu guys were around a few years back when rpg wasn't a mod yet, that place is un-clickable" waltz in there and what do yu see? A friggen buncha bums that aren't even close to making a program(cause they pretty close to know NOTHING about game crap neway)let alone a game, if yu went in there yu woulda had to filter through like 80% of crap threads that are just "um...yeah, here, join meeee, I dunno what I'm doing, but I want to form a team, hmmm, maybe a full scale MMOrpg, eummm, I made this site yeah, but the links dead so I can't see..."

neway yu get the idea, I respect RPG for still being sane after moderatring that place...

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Quote: "I know moderators have the option to delete a post, and not a whole thread."


Lol, actually, we can delete whole threads as well.


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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 17:50
Yeh the team request boards as far as i know havnt produced very many teams that have been sucesfull. If they want to post i dont know why they cant wait a while and develop code/media etc unitl they actually have something to show but never mind what happens happens.

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I seem to have the complete opposite view of the Team request to most people on Apollo. I think it is usefull, and I don't think that there need to be much media, or knowledge of programming. New programmers can try to make a tream with another new programmer, and maybe learn DB together. People can tell them that they should learn to program before they post there, and they can reply with...

"I find it hard to learn on my own!"

It is a conversation, and nothing more. Some people turn that into a flamewar. It is those flame threads that should be deleted.

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Thanks for the support guys


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Posted: 15th Sep 2004 21:09
Quote: "RPG has done a fine job keeping that monster of a forum in line, and locking four or so posts will not do any harm whatsoever."

Yes and as I said to RPG earlier hes a good moderator...

Nevermind, these forums went downhill ages ago.

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No they didn't. They're doing very well right now and have been for the past several months, with the sole exception of the blood bubble spammage.

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Quote: "okok, if yu guys were around a few years back when rpg wasn't a mod yet, that place is un-clickable" waltz in there and what do yu see? A friggen buncha bums that aren't even close to making a program(cause they pretty close to know NOTHING about game crap neway)let alone a game, if yu went in there yu woulda had to filter through like 80% of crap threads that are just "um...yeah, here, join meeee, I dunno what I'm doing, but I want to form a team, hmmm, maybe a full scale MMOrpg, eummm, I made this site yeah, but the links dead so I can't see...""


So basically it's exactly the same now as when it was unmodereated just now some of threads are locked.

I don't think there are enough people here capable of leading teams or enough people willing or capable to join them for the team requests board to ever work.


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I hope that some of the ideas discussed amongst Rich and the mod staff get implemented...it would put all of this mess and mess-aftermath to bed, without nuking that forum.


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flip a coin, heads it goes...

honest, it's the best way. Too much time wasted discussing.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2004 00:40 Edited at: 17th Sep 2004 00:43
Dang, I didn't think my thread would take off like this, lol.

@RPGamer: This is a post from the Cyber Tech Gaming (Azuron Dire Awakening) thread.

Quote: "Lots..LOTS of problems with this post.


Quote: "my company"

First of all, neither one of your companies are registered. So, your not a real company."


Do you think people give a crap if your registered as a company or not? I have 12 people on my team, were in the middle of a game and starting another one on the side. Were not "registered"~ but we call ourselves a company caues thats what we are.

Quote: "WOW!! REALLY!!?!?! Great Graphics? Awesome Playabilty? THATS AWESOME!! Whos gonna do it? Youve requested a full team, and what have you done? 2 Buildings, that dont exactly fill the 'great graphics' part of the description. How do you expect people to join a team that doesnt show what they have done so far.

Theres going to be tons of swords and magic! Great...how about a few examples? You can pick up items...hmm how about a page off your object interaction section of your dev. doc?

Its going to be the ultimate RPG ever? Thats really a great dream, but its not going to happen. Please, prove me wrong. Post some more of your work to give possible team members some hope.

Joining a team planning on making the greatest RPG ever, with a paragraph of story and 2 buildings done is far from encouraging.
"


T-E-A-M R-E-Q-U-E-S-T-S. It's exactly what it says. Requests a team to make a game. Not make some of the game then request a team. Of course your not going to have any products yet. I agree that they should post that highlights, features and special stuff about it though. Other wise it's just like ever other post. But I think that your sarcasim was TOTALLY uncalled for. I'm sure everyone agrees with that.

Quote: "Hey i'll join

I am an engine programmer
"


Quote: "Me too... i want in on this UBER 1337 RPG... WE'll make millions!!

BTW.. i'm texture deigner
"


Right after you posted this 2 people wanted in on this "game". What does that say to you? Do you think people give a crap if your registered as a company or not?

HOWEVER: I back you 100% in the personal information deal. That can get out of hand fast.

Quote: "
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=39120&b=9

Tell me that didnt deserve a lock.
"


That didn't deserve a lock. Seriously. I don't see whats wrong with that at all. And for the record not everyone is as educated and talented as you in making posts RPGamer. Some people's english skills are just not up to par. On top of that everyone has different styles of posting, which causes diversity. If your about to argue being diverse is going to get your thread locked then I'll gladly point in out in the United States Constitution where your wrong.

@Everyone: Yea I agree, RPGamer and the other Mod's out there have really cleaned up the boards. I didn't visit them for a while either because they were so bad {although i think that doesn't call for the whole forum to be shut down...whats with that...}. But I think some Mod's are getting out of hand, and RPGamer just seems to be everywhere i look, so I'm making him my Prime example. Other mod's have laid down the law without...how should i say it, harrassing there powers and the people?

@RPGamer and Everyone: I think your doing a great job, without you are forums would be trash. I salute you, really I do. There is of course a "but" to this so here it is: I think your getting a little to lock happy though. That first thread in your 3 thread example should not have been locked. Thats my prime example and exhibit A.

My Final note is this: On the topic of diversity again... There may be 9 year olds, special ed kids, s who pose as 13 year old kids, 13 year old kids that pose as s and ect. ect. in this forum. But last time I checked the internet has no laws from the outside world against Forum Diversity. If a 9 year old post for a team, then why the hell not, you know? It's his US right.

I'm interested what you all are going to say next.

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I think the best thing you could have done was just leave this topic to die. Not that I think there's anything especially wrong with your post - but consider that if this is the reaction we get everytime there's a bit of a clear-out, then posts like this will simply be locked or deleted before anyone even get's their say.

Now did everyone thank RPG for convincing Rich to keep the team requests board?


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Thanks, RPG

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You are making no friends picking apart moderator's decisions

Plus, I think its stated pretty clearly that if your request doesn't comform with the rules, then it'll be locked.

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not to mention this is a UK run forum so the US Constitution has nothing to do with it, not that it would anyway


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...oh yea thats right... monkey poop. Well, the UK prolly has some law like we do too. *tries to save himself*

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Quote: "not to mention this is a UK run forum so the US Constitution has nothing to do with it, not that it would anyway "


A very good point.

ps - why in this sort of thing does this constitution always come into it?

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This is a UK run board, hosted in France - Let's see you apply the US constitution to that.

The constitution always seems to be bought up when you tell someone what they can and cannot post. Even if this was a US based site, I still don't believe that it would apply. These are private boards, and when you registered - in fact every time that you post - you agree that TGC have the final say on what can and cannot be posted.

In any event, I think that a majority of the mods have posted by now, and none of them think RPGamer has done anything wrong. I'm behind him 100%. I tried moderating those forums for a while when he was away

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I always hate it when people bring up freedom of speech. It is an illusion on the Internet unless you are on your own site. Every other site you visit belongs to someone else. Comparing this to real life in the US as you were, sure, you have a right to say what you want, and they have a right to kick you out of their domain, or censor your speech, when you're in their domain... their 'house'. You're a guest here, as is everyone except the owners.

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well put, and is correct. Its a fact when most people talk about the law (free speech, consumer rights etc) they dont actually know the law, which is necessary. Thats the one thing i learnt in PSHE

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Quote: "Do you think people give a crap if your registered as a company or not? I have 12 people on my team, were in the middle of a game and starting another one on the side. Were not "registered"~ but we call ourselves a company caues thats what we are."

But you're not. I could call myself the President of the U.S. but I'm not. While they probably don't care I believe it says in the forum rules for the Team Request baord that if you say you're a company that you need to be registered to call yourself that.
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Posted: 17th Sep 2004 07:11 Edited at: 17th Sep 2004 07:13
Quote: "That didn't deserve a lock. Seriously. I don't see whats wrong with that at all. And for the record not everyone is as educated and talented as you in making posts RPGamer. Some people's english skills are just not up to par. On top of that everyone has different styles of posting, which causes diversity. If your about to argue being diverse is going to get your thread locked then I'll gladly point in out in the United States Constitution where your wrong."


I support RPGamer's decisions. As mods we are happy to review the decisions of others, but I have to say that it was very difficult to see the wood from the trees in that board.

As regards to the constitution, it has absolutely no relevance here


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3) Expect ridicule and snide remarks from other forum dwellers if your idea isn't well thought out. Anyone posting "Let's make FF 14" or "Quake4" is just asking to have the fun taken out of them. Keep it realistic people. Do not email me complaining about the comments you received to your idea if your idea isn't even sensible!

4) Do NOT publically solicit personal information. We refuse to allow posts that request personal details from other forum members here. You are NOT allowed to say "post your email address here". You ARE allowed to say "here is my email address, contact me". There is a world of difference.

5) Cut out all the "fake company" junk please. Unless you have a publically registered company - one that can be found via a Companies House (or US/European equivalent) search - then we don't want to know about it. Be honest, say "the team name will be ... and I'd like to lead it". Don't say "we're a sponsored company with big publishing deals lined up". Let's face it - you WILL get found out and you'll look stupid when it happens and loose any respect you may have managed to gain up until that point.


Read those 3 rules.


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Posted: 17th Sep 2004 07:46 Edited at: 17th Sep 2004 07:50
Ok, I surrender. Your right and I'm wrong. What just happened your thinking right? Well, let just say I saw the light.

In light of all the hard work the moderators have done here, I drink to you tonight . You have made our boards, clean, safe, and realistic to say the least. Keep up the good work, and God be with you.

You know your right, if it wasn't for you guys the boards would have been shut down. And that would have sucked. With out you guy's we would have stupid team requests and false assets and credentials, not to mention being led into a project that will crumble within days.

You save us our time and money by sweeping the Team Request boards, and I know it takes hard work and patience {Don't you guys have a day job? LOL }.

3 cheers for the mod's!

EDIT

Hey i just noticed RPGamer's logo isn't on "The mod squad 2" picture's at the top of the forums homepage along with VanB, MikeS, Exeat, DavidT, CattleRustler, Mouse and Jeku. Whats with that? He should be in the hall of fame!

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Posted: 17th Sep 2004 07:55
He is - he's part of the original Mod squad. Not one of these noobie-mods

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Posted: 17th Sep 2004 08:01
lol, I actually just saw that, thats why I came back to this thread actually. How do mods become mods anyway?

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Posted: 17th Sep 2004 08:26
Quote: "How do mods become mods anyway?"


I still can't answer that question--- even though I'm one of those "noobie-mods" IanM is referring too

Something to do with the sun and moon aligning in such a way, causing a chain reaction of events--- much like chaos and peace.

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