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npsken
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Posted: 8th Feb 2005 07:08
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Wow, the games seem to be very very big in size (according to dev journals). I want to know if there has been anything done to make the games come out smaller. And if so, how much MB would an average 10 level game come out to be? I can't have a bandwidth eating monster living on my server.

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Richard Davey
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Posted: 8th Feb 2005 07:14 Edited at: 8th Feb 2005 07:14
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Rar it. There will be no attempt to shrink the size of the final games simply because they'll always be as large as the amount of media you use + the EXE.

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npsken
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Posted: 8th Feb 2005 07:31
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Raring makes a 153 mb file go all the way down to 151 mb. This stinks.

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Noldor
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Posted: 8th Feb 2005 08:25 Edited at: 8th Feb 2005 08:26
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It's either that or not using the software at all.
Learn to live with it.
I know i will.

We are all going to have to adapt our game ideas
to fit with FPSC if we want to use it.
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Logan 5
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Have any of you other testers tried to rar your games and, if so, are you getting about the same results? "Media" tends not to zip up very well.

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Ali
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Posted: 8th Feb 2005 09:14
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With a program like this it's just too easy to put in loads of different models without thinking about the consequences. If you want a smaller file size then try to stick to just a few different models, and maybe ones you can combine to make larger ones.

Also, it'd be great if FPSC takes the Ogg Vorbis format for sounds, which would reduce the file size considerably. Does it accept this?
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Eric T
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Posted: 8th Feb 2005 10:27
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I used the test game for this test:

Pre RAR compression : 151mb
Post RAR compression : 82.7mb

Almost a 70mb difference.

Quote: " Raring makes a 153 mb file go all the way down to 151 mb. This stinks."


Compression works better with multiple files... you really can't compress 1 file.

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Digital Death
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Posted: 8th Feb 2005 17:40
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Plus it also depends on the type of media that you are compressing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but .mp3 files apparently don't compress very well considering they're actually already compressed!
Keep this in mind when working with other file formats. Also, I try to use .jpg as often as possible and use Macromedia Fireworks to Export them for the web - greatly reduces the file size on images without any visible quality loss (although there's obviously some) and I know that when it comes to textures you can't afford quality loss but everyone's gotta cut some corners!

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Posted: 8th Feb 2005 19:37 Edited at: 8th Feb 2005 19:37
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Quote: "And if so, how much MB would an average 10 level game come out to be? I can't have a bandwidth eating monster living on my server."


150MB at least, although Lee changed the texture compression since I last checked.


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Mr Flowerkohl
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Posted: 8th Feb 2005 19:53
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mmh i think it depends on the media each game will have within.
so its possible to make games which have more than 1Gigabyte like the famous

yeah...thats the ticket !
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Coldnews
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Quote: " mmh i think it depends on the media each game will have within.
so its possible to make games which have more than 1Gigabyte like the famous"

I dont think people judge the quality of a game on how big it is! Do they??!!?

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Mr Flowerkohl
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the bigger the game the higher the graphics quality. usually.

yeah...thats the ticket !
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Coldnews
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Posted: 9th Feb 2005 17:41
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Quote: " the bigger the game the higher the graphics quality. usually."

doesnt mean the game is better though.

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Mr Flowerkohl
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no it doesnt. a good game needs much more than high graphics. leveldesign , story , etc.
but i think you cannot publish a game today which is made with the duke3d build editor even if you have a kick @$$ story

yeah...thats the ticket !
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Coldnews
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I downloaded a Doom II version of Goldeneye the other day and its the best thing iv played in ages!

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Mr Flowerkohl
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doom2 version of golden eye ???? i thought goldeneye was only released for n64 ?!?!
where have you got it ?

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Noldor
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It is a mod for the DOOM2 game, or a port
for the doom2 game.
When editing the EDGE port of doom2 you
can actually edit almost all aspects of the
game without any coding. I made a sweet horror
mod with it.
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Coldnews
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Noldor and his horror eh...

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Mr Flowerkohl
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i love horror

yeah...thats the ticket !
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Noldor
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Posted: 10th Feb 2005 21:33 Edited at: 10th Feb 2005 21:33
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I love horror. I have been collecting
horror movies since i was 13. (now 22)
And i look forward to making my game another
one of my "horror" projects.
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Mr Flowerkohl
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Posted: 10th Feb 2005 21:39
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well...then lets see who makes the more frightening horror game

yeah...thats the ticket !
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Noldor
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Posted: 10th Feb 2005 21:55
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I can't promise that my game will be
scary, but it might be good.
(i haven't played a game so far that
i think has been scary)
Altouh im hoping your game will change
that for me "Mr Flowerkohl".
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jasuk70
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Posted: 10th Feb 2005 22:51
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@Nolder, the scariest game I've played was System Shock 2. Mainly due to things happening unexpectedly.

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@jasuk70, Totally agree. Playing that game with the lights out was darn spooky. It's definately one of my favorite games of all time and my muse for what I want to do with FPSC.
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Noldor
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Posted: 10th Feb 2005 23:09 Edited at: 10th Feb 2005 23:47
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That was (is) a great game.
Altouh i only finished the first
one when that was new.
Never played through the second
one.
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jasuk70
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Posted: 10th Feb 2005 23:29
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@Noldor, there are some good jump out of your skin bits in the second one

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I can't wait. NOLDOR is my horror oppoment. This will truly be a great game competition.


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