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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / Why doesn't the rnd() command work in patch 3.1

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IceBird
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Posted: 3rd Feb 2003 15:53
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The program always returns the same number everytime the program runs.. for example



Every time I run the program the x# is 2
Whats wrong???
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Easily Confused
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Posted: 3rd Feb 2003 15:54
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Put Randomize Timer() at the top of your program.

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Unless your name is Bob Ross, then you can do it in thirty minutes.
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Steverino
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Posted: 3rd Feb 2003 18:20
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A couple years ago I suggested that they mention the use of Timer() in the documentation for the Randomize command. I wonder how many hundreds of redundant forum threads could have been avoided...

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Posted: 3rd Feb 2003 18:27
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Indeed, it would be a good idea, I've answered this same type of question about 5 or 6 times now

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Richard Davey
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Posted: 3rd Feb 2003 18:31
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Actually it probably wouldn't save as many as you think - most people don't bother reading before posting here

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Posted: 3rd Feb 2003 19:03
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LOL Too bloody right.
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Steverino
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Posted: 3rd Feb 2003 19:10
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Yeah, but when someone looks up Randomize, chances are they want to know how to get random numbers that are different every time, so why not just tell them? Especially since in some other BASICs, Randomize alone does what Randomize Timer() does in DB.

The goal of documentation should be to help people do what they want to do, not to give just enough hints that the really smart ones can figure it out themselves after reading about all 1000 commands.

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Posted: 3rd Feb 2003 19:14
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You're right too but it wouldn't stop all the posts *sigh* no-win.
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Steverino - you missed my point, I know it's worth having in the manual - but most people here would still "post first, read manual second".

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Posted: 3rd Feb 2003 19:54
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By the way most people who used qb used the ranomize timer ()
command as well

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Andy Igoe
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Posted: 4th Feb 2003 01:42
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Just before you make any hasty decisions please don't ever remove functionality to generate the same series of random numbers. I use that alot. Fractals forever, man!

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Don't worry, they will never do that

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Steverino
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Posted: 4th Feb 2003 16:54
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I definitely wasn't suggesting they remove the possibility of using a predictable seed! Just that they add a line to the docs for Randomize specifically mentioning the use of Randomize Timer().

As it stands now, we are denied the pleasure of jeering at them to RTFM!

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