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TDP Enterprises
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Posted: 18th Aug 2005 17:13 Edited at: 18th Aug 2005 17:15
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the xbox 360 has a basic kit starting out at $299 and a premium kit for $399:

Xbox 360 Core System - $299 (299 Euros, 209 GBP)
•Xbox 360 console
•Wired controller
•Detachable faceplate
•Xbox Live Silver membership
•Standard AV cables


Xbox 360 - $399 (399 Euros, 279 GBP)
•Xbox 360 console
•20GB detachable hard drive
•Wireless controller
•Wireless Xbox Live headset
•High-definition AV cables
•Ethernet cable
•Xbox 360 Media Remote Control (limited time)
•Detachable faceplate
•Xbox Live Silver membership


supposedly this is the suggested retail prices individualy:

• Faceplate ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Hard Drive (20 GB) ($99.99, 99.99 Euros, 69.99 GBP)
• Memory Unit (64 MB) ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 22.99 GBP)
• Wireless Networking Adapter ($99.99, 79.99 Euros, 59.99 GBP)
• Wireless Controller ($49.99, 44.99 Euros, 32.99 GBP)
• Play and Charge Kit ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Rechargeable Battery Pack ($11.99, 14.99 Euros, 9.99 GBP)
• Controller ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 24.99 GBP)
• Headset ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Universal Media Remote ($29.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
• Component HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
• S-Video AV Cable (US) ($29.99)
• SCART AV Cable (Europe) (24.99 Euros, 17.99 GBP)
• VGA HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)


will you:
buy the basic

buy the premium

wait for ps3 (basic guessed to be at least $399)

wait for revolution (in the neighberhood of $200)

spend the cash on some new graphics card for your pc?

or will you spend the money on the newest tv-advertised work-out contraption?

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Will buy the basic if anything.

That hard drive is a complete rip-off, you can do MUCH better for $100 than a 20GB.

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Posted: 18th Aug 2005 17:49
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I intend to buy a premium 360 because it will make a great living-room console with all it's media stuff.

But I'll also buy the Revolution because the Gamecube made me so happy.

I'll probably buy the PS3 for my son.

Some would say I spend too much money on videogame stuff, I say it saves me a fortune in the long run (that does'nt make any sense but for some reason they swallow it).


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Quote: "That hard drive is a complete rip-off, you can do MUCH better for $100 than a 20GB."


you realize they say that either because (a) it's not a typical hdd, it might be removable or something, so it prolly has a protective case:
Quote: "•20GB detachable hard drive"

(b) they have to make money some how, and they know not everyone is as computer saavy as all holy Leys on TGC forums.

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I'm getting meself the premium cus I need all that crap anyways.


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Posted: 18th Aug 2005 19:12 Edited at: 18th Aug 2005 19:13
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Premium for me Can't wait-- will probably preorder.

Especially exciting with the 40-odd games said to be released for the launch!


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Yah I have to say Im getting the PS3 because It has more power and I like the games that sony has for the playstation line, did I mention Im A die hard Sony fan? But I might get the 360 basic if I can scrape together the money for both, I am definetly not getting them when they release though Im going to wait for about 6 months for the price to go down.

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i am going with the premium because i kinda want/need all that extra crap. I also like the multimedia capablities (plug your ipod and psp into a MICROSOFT product?, i know its weird but cool at the same time). Plus xbox live and halo totally kicks anything sony can throw out in the A** -(butt). Plus 4 of the tvs i have (total of 7 or 8(3 of 'em are big-screens)) are hd, so i want the hd cables for it to. The detachble hard drive is a thousand times better than a memoery card, and the wireless controller and headset are a must have for me. I might get the revolution to because a)its half the price of the other 2 and b)it will have that new funky controller that they're all hyped up about.

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Posted: 18th Aug 2005 20:05 Edited at: 18th Aug 2005 20:05
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This sounds awsome. Now I just gota get a T.V to play it on.


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i'll give you one of mine(i have a 19 year old one that works like the day i got it, i play my n64 on it) i live in minnesota, so we are practically neighbors, eh?

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I'll probably end up buying the basic...I'd just be happy with anything cause I missed out on the last generation of consoles (newest thing I have is a N64).

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I'm hopefully getting mine in October. For £50 cheaper. Fingers crossed.


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How?


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Quote: "wait for ps3 (basic guessed to be at least $399)"


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009VXAM0/ref=ord_cart_shr/104-4645775-1287106?_encoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance

Tadaaaa



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Posted: 18th Aug 2005 22:23 Edited at: 18th Aug 2005 22:30
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oooh ooh, look, i can do it too!
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=ret&aid=3663
or this one?
http://www.ps3portal.com/?view=article&article=5
or this one maybe???
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/24/news_6126410.html
Quote: "Tadaaaa"


P.S. i was ball-parkin it off of what i have read and was not meant to be dead-on

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i want the premium - i'll have to keep nagging my parents


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I'm going for the Premium. Although it's probably going to be a bit more expensive in Denmark...

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@TDP Enterprises

No offense intended or anything.. It's hard to communicate in text sometime, most people know i'm fairly serious.. When i say something like tada, it's meant in a sarcastic sense.

ie.. $299.. Suuuuure it is. :p



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quoting a very great man indeed :
Quote: "Riiiiiight"
- Dr. Evil(1999)

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mmm. The wired controler uses usb. Does that mean I`ll be able to use it on my pc?
I wouldn`t buy the "core" offer in a milion years. 300€ for the console and another 35 for the memory card. For 65 more you get a hd(essential for backwards compatibility) and a wireless controler. Ms have clearly launch the 300€ version just to sya "Look we lauched the 360 at sub 300€. Aren`t we great?".

Edit: $300 for the ps3? Wow I want to get that. It will surely launch at 400. Poor Amazon. Or do they know something we don`t? Ah you can`t buy it yet. It`s just there so they can apear as a cheap place.


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Yah Avtually for teh PS3 thanks to the american dollar its like 358.80$ canadian so thats almost 399 there , also I admit that the PS3 controllers look like bat-a-rangs but thats besides the point. Its still gonna kick as....Butt.

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i like the boomarang designed controllers so if you get po'ed you can chuck it, and it flies back to you, so it doesnt shatter on the floor(i have gone throgh 3 controllers chucking them at things), personally i think its a great idea

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I'll do what I did for the ps2, wait 6 months for the prices to drop $100.

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I'm waiting for the Playstation 3. I think the controllers are like that because Sony finally realized that a lot of their customers are over 18... bigger controller for bigger hands.
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Grog, what does that have do with anything? Did you hear the comments from the people at E3 who were over 18? They said it looked uncomfortable to hold, the current dual shock aint too small for any normal human beings hand (mutants well we'll have to see about that) and the new controller look abnormally uncomfortable to hold.

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Something that only looks uncomfortable doesn't mean it is uncomfortable. Perhaps they did it just to hold antennas in the controller without being obvious. Of course i'm sure somebody will make a PS2 to USB replacement that works on the PS3.

Back when the Nintendo first came out that controller was foreign to everybody I knew... but we all eventually got used to it... the PS3 controller may be the same way.
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Quote: "Yah I have to say Im getting the PS3 because It has more power and I like the games that sony has for the playstation line, did I mention Im A die hard Sony fan? But I might get the 360 basic if I can scrape together the money for both, I am definetly not getting them when they release though Im going to wait for about 6 months for the price to go down."


The ps3 isnt more powerful they already compared and the 360 far out performs the ps3. Plus microsoft has all the best games developers now.

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To even consider a PS3 over a 360 is absurd.

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Quote: "Does that mean I`ll be able to use it on my pc? "

XBox controllers are USB, look at llama.com for the XBox controller mod, i think it's there. then you can find Drivers for the controller all over the place.

Quote: "To even consider a PS3 over a 360 is absurd."

Quote: "Plus microsoft has all the best games developers now."

I like how you guys speak from your butt and dont use your heads. It's all about opionion. Most people i talk to HATE the gamecube, but I love it. When you're thinking about WHAT it can do rather than what it WILL be doing, you wont like a lot of stuff.

I hear all these people saying that games arnt about the bells and whistles, it's about the game play...this generation and next generation of consoles is ALL about bells and whistles. Stop looking at what the machine CAN and will NEVER do and pay attention to the GAME play. I'm sick of all these AWESOME looking games that SUCK because they spent too much time/money on what it LOOKS like. Poor design. This is why i respect the owner over at Nintendo, he actually has the guts to stick up for what games SHOULD be. and look at all the crap he gets from people.

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Quote: "I'm hopefully getting mine in October. For £50 cheaper. Fingers crossed"


Quote: "How"


Quote: "$299 (299 Euros, 209 GBP)"


My guess is he is going to the US on holiday. $299 is currently £166.90. Thats £42 saving right there. The $399 is £222.80, a saving of more than £50 over the quoted £279. Good olde tech prices rip off in the UK. Still going strong. Although amazingly better than a few years ago. Would have guessed $299 would have been £280 at the time. ie. almost a 1 to 1 ratio, even though it's *really* almost 2 to 1. Good olde bad days

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Quote: " the current dual shock aint too small for any normal human beings hand"

No. The handles are too short for my hands. Mabe because I went to the n64 and then back to the playstation pad (on the pc) that I`ve noticed. I was also alot bigger when I went back to the ps pad. I was 13 when I stopped and 16 when I started using it again. sony have thought of people like me growing up. That`s probably why they changed it. Not to mention they have to fit all the wireless tech in there aswell. They killed 2 birds with one stone.

About the spec of the Xbox 360 and the ps3. They`re not that diferent though the cell processor looks faster on paper. So technicaly the ps3 is faster but in order to take advantage of it they`ll need some 1337 programmers with mad ninja skillz. That`s probably the reason why they`re going to have it open source. Surely someone can get their head around it? We`re probably going tosee the first and second wave of games looking better on the 360 but the major games like Final Fantasy will look better on the ps3 towards the end of the generation.
Though that is pure speculation I`m pretty sure I`ve got it right.


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Well this is brilliant.

$300 basic

300.00 USD = 365.256 CAD

$365 adding our magical "tax" = Total: $420

Bah.


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ps3 will be cheaper than 399 dollars ok don't make the ps3 unpopular lol

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lol

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Quote: " Well this is brilliant.

$300 basic

300.00 USD = 365.256 CAD

$365 adding our magical "tax" = Total: $420

Bah. "


Hmmm.... I'm planning a trip to Alberta in the near future--- will save at least $30


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@Jeku: You mean the company you're working for wont just give you one?!? Cheap bastards



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xbox is rubbish compared to ps3 and ps2 and even the psx/ps1

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Quote: " @Jeku: You mean the company you're working for wont just give you one?!? Cheap bastards"


Hmmm.... developer discounts, maybe.....


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wow, darkbasic mad, that whole post was so very well thought out, it was so inspirational to me that i am now gonna sell my xbox...

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Just make sure you buy them in stock so you can sell them to us at a discount price but still make some cash for yourself

Just kidding of course, before anyone jumps on my ass about it



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Quote: "XBOX 360 Priced!"

you almost sound EXCITED about the price they chose...
should be like the good ol days like when the SNES was first out it was only $200 for the best version , none of this, choose which you want, but you will still be paying over $300.

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inflation......

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Quote: "My guess is he is going to the US on holiday. $299 is currently £166.90. Thats £42 saving right there. The $399 is £222.80, a saving of more than £50 over the quoted £279. Good olde tech prices rip off in the UK. Still going strong. Although amazingly better than a few years ago. Would have guessed $299 would have been £280 at the time. ie. almost a 1 to 1 ratio, even though it's *really* almost 2 to 1. Good olde bad days
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I know someone who works at the airport they are shipping to. They can buy them earlier and £50 cheaper


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Hoorah for the Revolution.

And Joel, I wholeheartedly agree with just about everything you've said in this topic


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Im going with PS3. My choice is based on the current systems.

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X-Box is a huge paper weight.
X-Box 360 is a more fancy paper weight.

Wireless Device is over priced and the Controllers are too Expensive.

Nintendos Wavebird is only 34 Dollars. Not over 50.

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At this present time, i'm in deep consideration about not buying a Playstation 3.

My reasoning is this in case anyone doesnt know this story.

SCEA announced it would be releasing an update for the firmware of the Playstation Portable on August 12th. Come that day, the update wasnt there and a statement was declared that there would be a delay and it would come out the week of the 15th.

Well, check the date today.. And it still hasnt come out. The exact same statement was posted by SCEA today stating that it is now coming out the week of the 22nd.

Sony has absolutely no customer relations.. Everyone is in the dark about why it's taking so long and why there have been two delays without and prior announcements of these days, but after the deadlines came and passed.

Now really, i never expected or cared for updates coming out for the PSP. This one adds a web browser feature and some other improvements. It's a bonus for me and truthfully, i wouldnt really care when it came out, but a promise was made by Sony with the dates, and i feel they're playing with their customers, possibly hyping up the update as a marketing plan to do something against Nintendo's new Nintendogs for the DS.

If this is how Sony wishes to treat their customers right now, i see no change for when the Playstation 3 gets released.



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@Merix: It's a PR stunt against the people who have hacked the PSP and already added this functionality. They have to promise something, even if they don't know it's acheivable yet.

Personally, I've just bought a PS2. I get my games at 5 for £30 at Game, it will keep me going for years

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Location: Toronto, Canada
Posted: 23rd Aug 2005 16:53
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I'm with batvink, I'm getting a ps2/xbox once the next gen systems come out.


The future is here, and I can't afford it.
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