Quote: "What exactly are you censoring there? The word 'shut'?"
Well when I need tips on how to sit around the forums insulting people perhaps next time I should consult you.
Quote: "There again, you're blaming the update tool you used. What's this from?"
YaST / YoU are part of SuSE
Quote: "And where did this graphic internal config system come from? I doubt it's a part of the kernel, but I could be wrong."
So Windows API isn't actually part of Windows because it's not part of the Kernel.. hmm I should try to remember that. I mean I was completely confused by the fact that it's completely integrated into every single aspect of how Windows works.
Now that I know it's not I feel like such an idiot. :rolls eyes:
Quote: "Again, we could go on forever about this, but everytime I've messed up Linux, personally, was because of something I did out of ignorance. After I took the Linux security and server University course for my degree, I've never messed up my Linux setup by paying more attention when editing and upgrading my system"
Yes, because I just so happen to have degrees on how to use Windows and MacOSX... but I felt that I could wing it with Linux.
Seriously, the reason I'm using SuSE is so that I don't spend over 3/4 of my user-time under the damn hood fixxing yet another issue or manually installing software so that it works correctly and such.
Sorry, but I don't have to spend several hours in Windows and MacOSX setting up config files, manually placing files, linking the correct libraries, compiling to the Kernel, blah blah.
No on both of them you simply click on the application and bam.. the system does everything for you. And you know what WITHOUT ISSUES.
I downloaded the Doom 3 .run program. You know why I chose that over the tar.gz manual installation? Because I don't want to spend half of my damn afternoon trying to install something that honestly I'll only be paying for 30minutes if that.
But then it's the same with everything on Linux isn't it. The day I come across an application that installs perfectly, and runs perfectly on ANY Linux distro then fine. Until then I'm sticking with my statement that Linux is CRAP.
And while your little defend of this crappy children's OS has been interesting, you've not really done anything except try and prove that the problem was my fault. When it quite obviously isn't.
I don't like pissing around under the hood and you know what, you would be under the impression for some crazy reason that actually the original developers who have enough knowledge to create an application for Linux would ACTUALLY have enough knowlage to create files that installed and ran without issue.
If the problems I've come across with things that only affected silly things... like Doom3's texture were all white. I wouldn't care, just go as some dumbass driver glitch. But it's not.
This is a case of the application refused to run, and when I updated my system through the auto-updater... the entire thing died on me.
On both accounts I was using 'single-click' so to speak solutions. I don't have to touch any config, the only installing I did was copying files from CD to a directory created. I literally had no control over what was happening behind the scene.
Now I have no trouble with this when using Windows. I can quite happily just click 'next' on InstallShield, and by some miricle applications instally and run without issue! So explain to me why the hell this doesn't work in Linux.
Not just SuSE, but DSL.. why do applications just close randomly. Or Red Hat, why does the OS randomly lock up or think I've sent the termination signal?
NONE of them seem to run Kopete or Gaim and access MSN. Although the internal DSL one will run MSN quite happily. That said that one also won't run AIM happily. So I end up with like 2-3 Multi-Messengers just to access 2-3 services. Why the hell not just release individual messengers?!
Quote: "A quick Google search also mentioned the need to check your /etc/hosts file (add the entry "127.0.0.1 localhost" if it isn't already there)."
Yeah, as part of the default network setup.. why MSB didn't work is beyond me, that is setup.
I used the .run from idsoftware.com, which is Linux' equivilent of WindowsInstaller. So it
should've done everything for me, except for the directories of where it was installed to. I set them.
That said I just clicked next cause didn't see a need to mess with the default install.
Quote: "I dont know if its been mentioned - but have you tried a different version of Linux?"
For Doom 3, not yet. As far as Linux gaming goes though, yes.
I've used a number of installations. I use SuSE almost exclusively now because it's the only one that seems to run Cedega4 and DirectX9 without issue. The rest of the distro's I have (Gentoo, Mandrake, Red Hat (Pro), DSL, etc) don't seem to like it much.
Gentoo is probably THE most stable distro I've ever used. However, in order to do anything in that it is a case of clearing your schedual for that evening. Hell even installing takes about 36hours on this computer (which isn't exactly a slouch).
The problem probably lies in the fact that I don't want to touch the internals of Linux. To be honest why should I have to.
I mean why the hell should I have to sit there and manually mount a drive and alter the config to mount it on boot if I want to use it?
No other OS I've ever used have I had to do that... no I just plug it in and bam, it's there ready to use.
I shouldn't have to be worried that while I'm copying multiple files, if I don't do it via shell that the copy sequence will hang.
Other people might be fine using the OS as some great learning tool, but from my perspective, it's an Operating System.
It's once purpose is to provide the user with the ability to take away from the drudgery of the mindless background tasks in order to provide them with more time to actually get on with what they need/want to.
