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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / Db Pro to C++

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Iceman00
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Is it at all posible to build a Db Pro to C++ converter??? This woulld really help me as I'm a c++ programer a heart and often find I want to add on to my progrma with little trinks i learned in c++ many of which are imposible(so far) to get in Dbpro... An idea of mine was using function calls in c++ to simulate a db environment... Also if anyone has done anything like this before(Eg. DB to Visual Basic) please tell me.
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gamefreaks
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It would be very difficult to write a program that generates C/C++ code due to the intricaces of the language.

However, I imagine that a class that encapsulates DB commands as member functions could be written, which would certainly be a step in the right direction.

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SasukiShinozawa
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Why not just write your own .dll in C++ and put your tricks in there? DB could use that. Or is this not possible?

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gamefreaks
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Yes, that is completely possible. However...

Anyone who can code a DB dll, would code their game in C++ anyway, and secondly, would there be any advantage since DB is written in C++ anyway?

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Iceman00
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It's for things like ghosting where a .dll would reqire too much work...

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Iceman00
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BTW Gamefreak, your on the lines of what i was thinking...

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Shadow Robert
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personally i use Pro because the engine is premade and universal - it would take a good few months to develop a similar system and if i wanted to update it, i'd have to then rewrite seconds of it ... i prefer a premade engine i can extend upon my own

i can't offer a DBpro -> C++ option because, well quite frankly it'd be a waste of time because i doubt many people would use it and it'd no doubt annoy the DBS team that people could code in DarkBasic and then simply translate the whole thing into C++ with DirectX or OpenGL

remember though if your adding a language front, then what you have to also do is recode ALL of the C++ functions ...

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I thought of doing this, I know the language I use Euphoria has a translator to c++, it works perfect, so I think it could be done in db as well.

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If someone did do that, my guess is the C++ code could possibly run but would be horribly unreadable.

Anyway, if you are so attached to C++, use it for your game, because translating DBP - C++ completely defeats the purpose IMHO.

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CloseToPerfect
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I don't know, the extra functionality of c++ would be great to take you db code as far as you can and then add the c++ code to optimize it. with c++ you can embed asm code, and c++ code uns faster then dbp, it's just so much easier to write dbp code then c++ code.

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doclar1
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It could be done to a level of understanding, but only used
as a learning tool, to show just what or how you could do or
go about doing the same type of code in a C++ enviroment.

To just out-right translate...?? hmmmm, It would take a
thought or two, but by thought two...a guy would just have
to say no.

To end, and with all due respect, the idea would have to be
"kicked in the seat of the pants" until all life on earth
was non-existant!


With Respect,
Lawrence D.F.Sr.

Regards,
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Posted: 18th Feb 2003 14:24
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I'm trying to imagine what the point of a DBP -> C++ translator would be. The only thing I can think of is that all the versions of C++ I'm familiar with come with optimisers. I can see nothing else, unless the libraries are rewritten - but whats the point of that? They're already written in C++.

Now a C++ SDK would be a different matter, and that is quite possible now if you're willing to be inventive and put up with a few niggly gotcha's.
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gamefreaks
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I can see the point of a DB -> C/C++ converter but since DB is already written in C++, would the code be any faster?

As has already been stated, a converter won't have the 'common sense' of a real programmer and won't be able to generate optimised or readable code. This is especially so with C/C++ due to the flexibility of the language. A converter simply won't take advantage of the language!

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