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Peter H
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the interiors look really good!

except for the chairs which i think could use a bit more of a "chairy" texture...they don't have to be fancy, just something to make them look like they wheren't extruded from the floor

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Kangaroo2 BETA2
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This is looking cool, good luck with it - a truly open ended rpg would be a real achievment


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Posted: 6th Dec 2005 20:57 Edited at: 6th Dec 2005 21:01
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Quote: "except for the chairs which i think could use a bit more of a "chairy" texture...they don't have to be fancy, just something to make them look like they wheren't extruded from the floor "


LOL, I assure you they arent. The general process is that Mega models, textures and Light, and I position. This includes each individual piece of furniture, tree's etc. I'm very very anal about how props are placed and so I insist on manually position everything.


Quote: "This is looking cool, good luck with it - a truly open ended rpg would be a real achievment"


I appreciate that! I my self am an old school gamer (32 years old)who's roots stem from Dungeons & Dragons Basic (the old boxed set) and am an avid EverQuest gamer who was one of the initial Beta 1 players. I am firm on OpenEnded RPG.


And we arent doing this haphazzard,guys. I have and had documented the project prior to beggining it and have and am dumping considerable funds (As both LIT and Mega can attest for)into it to make it happen and not become Vapour Ware.

It wont be complete over night or weeks nor months or ever for that matter. OpenEnded often entails "Ever Ongoing".

We will release a demo on completion of the first Terrain/Landscape
as the engine is now definitley stable and functional enough for a Beta 0.1 release. However many features will not be included such as purchasing of Class,Race,Alignment,Age,Gender,Gear etc. It will be just enough to roam the terrain and city, interact w/ NPC's,Jump,Swim etc. No ETA as of yet. Nothing worse than an anticipated release date to only be disappointed.

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I'm going to be bold and plug this here.. If you havent yet tried the LUA Unity Scripting? Then do so. Very easy to learn and makes RPG development infinitley more convienient. The abillity to alter code without having to exit your engine and recompile again? IS very,very nice.
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Gotta love those indoor level pics at the top. Megaton is an awesome designer, isn't he?

Good luck with it.

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Well,how about that.. a Cameo appearance from David

Whom coincidently,graciousley offerd (the poor fool) to help
with the project scripting.

Now if we can get Lost in Thought to make a guest appearance..

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Did somebody say free food? j/k

Yeah the project looks like it is coming along nicely.

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LOL,ok. And thats all for tonights show folks!

Will be a few days before Mega posts new screens. I my self wont have much to post screen wise as im working on the scripting and coding.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2005 02:37 Edited at: 7th Dec 2005 02:40
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Megaton, really nice models! I think they are just incredible! What modeller do you use? Milkshape?, I was wondering how did you recalculate all the normals?
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i believe the modeler calculates the normals :p unless megaton painstakingly edits the .x/.dbo file by hand but who would do that


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dark coder: I was looking at some of your models on your site. very nice,man.. do you do characters and animation?

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although they tend to look like microwaved clay figures, i tend to stay away from organic things but i will be practising soon, and my sites very baron atm im that lazy


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Quote: "although they tend to look like microwaved clay figures"


Well, you cant be far from mastering characters. Those planes are really impressive dark..

Added you to msn. we'll talk.

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Mega and I where reluctant to put any new screens up until we could post a completed village, dungeon, buidings, characters etc. But for the sake of showing we havent died and are working hard on this project.


Just throwing them up to break the monotaney of village/city screens.

Dungeon Screens:









Likely have more and mapped screens late tonight.
Not far from done the engine and will start on shaders.
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*gasp*

that looks like something that might have been in UT Fantastic work


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Those dungeons looks like my old school!



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Yay!

YAY!

YAY!

And I mean it!



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Bugger off.


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Peter H
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 03:10
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wow...
Quote: "Those dungeons looks like my old school!
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you had one cool old school

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Posted: 15th Dec 2005 03:12 Edited at: 17th Dec 2005 18:10
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been working on getting more atmospheric sky's in to match the new coming terrain/landscapes

disregard the old snow hill sides.


[EDIT] screens removed due to updates of this scene


still struggling for the ideal winter night sky.

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you're game is crazy awesome looking!

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Well, as usual, this game is looking awesome, and I must say that is an extremely convincing sky. It will be really amazing if you manage to get it to change and move as it would in real life. I've only seen such an effect in two games, but it really is quite immersive if you can figure it out.


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Quote: "to get it to change and move as it would in real life. "
the sky rolls, in game. as for gradual fade into night? its tricky. i'll get it sooner or later.


Quote: "you're game is crazy awesome looking!
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sincerely appreciate that. surprised by the lack of responce we have been getting. I know everyone wants a demo, but really reluctant to release one until im sure it wont be a let down.

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Posted: 15th Dec 2005 15:12
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You shouldn't be surprised, it really does look crazy awesome!

the new snow mountains are much better thent he old ones

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Looking nice

Quote: "You shouldn't be surprised"

You really need to read things more carefully, he said:

Quote: "surprised by the lack of responce we have been getting"


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Quote: "Wow, pretty nice."


Quote: "That looks great, x1b.."


Quote: "whaa.. so its quality game eh? nice work!
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Quote: "Woooh, the pics are awesome, great progress!!!"


Quote: "yea looks really cool, reminds me of knight online."


Quote: "Amazing level work, dude Looks really really cool"


Quote: "Yay!

YAY!

YAY!

And I mean it!
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Quote: "wow..."



Quote: "you're game is crazy awesome looking!
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Quote: "Well, as usual, this game is looking awesome"



Quote: "You shouldn't be surprised, it really does look crazy awesome!"



Quote: "Looking nice "



You guys,rock. Thanks for the encourgement.

Mega and I communicate all day from work and school to get this done then again soon as we get home.

Lost In Thought replies to my queries nearly instantaenousley with code solutions and more efficient approaches to my code. He him self has some amazing effects in his engine that I very much want worked into mine. Swinging doors, expanding bridges and alot,alot more.

David T helps with scripting as his time permits..

Thanks again guys. Far from done, sorry we cant quote a demo release date. Rather get it done right than rushed.
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Want more encourgement? This game rocks. I hope you guys can pull a demo out soon!
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Quote: "still struggling for the ideal winter night sky."

Visit Sweden some day.



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Quote: "Lost In Thought replies to my queries nearly instantaenousley with code solutions and more efficient approaches to my code. "


Yeah once I get this frustum culling working with object limbs (which will be open source assuming I can even do it), I'll be able to help a little more, not much more ... but a little more

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Whats being developed as of yesterday evening 8pm and scheduled to be complete sunday 9pm

Village







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BULLS EYE!

That last picture, fabulous...




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awesomeness. UVE GOT IT.


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Looking very high quality. Good job


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Thanks guys.

The terrain is much better now and FPS ranging from
45-70 average. Colormap im using is questionable and seems to be holding my attention along with an attempt to have smoke billowing from the chimneys.

At the moment, my agenda is:
- complete populating the new terrain .w new buildings
- populate the new buildings with new furniture (and fireplaces for those with chimneys)
- add smoke to chimneys
- add swinging doors (right now, its hit "e" to enter them. unattractive.
- add tree's and foliage
- add sizable ice patch .w sliding collision (face it,would be funny to watch another player fleeing from a mob and hit an icepatch then go sliding out of control)
- finish adding the new dungeon
- Finally get you guys an in game video to see
- start on modeling the characters
- finish Lua Scripting the character base and racial statistics

Dark Coder and I have been talking. He may lend his modeling skills to the project after all. keywords being "may help.."


As for the characters,and for those unfamiliar with Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 1st Edition:

The Races Are:
Human
Elven(High,Gray,Valley,Sylvan,Wood,Dark)
Gnome(Surface,Deep)
Dwarf(Gray,Hill,Mountain)
Halfling(Stout,Tallfellow,Hairfoot)
Half-Orc(ugly...)

Classes Are:
Cavalier
Paladin
Cleric
Druid
Fighter
Barbarian
Ranger
Magic-User
illusionist
Thief
Assasin
Monk
Bard

I'll try and post ilustrations of all races/classes later on.

back to work

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WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very, very nice.

Graphics are awesome, and the gameplay sounds like it will be great.


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Quote: "Looking very high quality. Good job"


Thanks Ian. Sincerely hope your rpg completes this time! If not, mayhaps we can combine projects.


I was prospected by a very potential Modeler/Animator late last night. We're in the midst of discussing the project and approach. Next screens will either be the compeleted village or Completed Viallge with first in game Character (likely a Knight(Cavalier or Paladin) or Wizard(Magic-User or illusionist) type)

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just ran up on this... really looks top shelf...

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Quote: "just ran up on this... really looks top shelf...

--Mike "


Appreciate that,mike. We're miles and miles from done obviousley. 1 village scene, 1 dungeon scene clearly does not constitute "a game"

I do feel that we need to slow down on the screens as it will take from the excitement from the game when everone who tries the demo can say "saw that...saw that...yup, saw that in a screen too" etc.

Soon we will "appear" to being going through a lull and heading to "Vapourware" when this is infact FAR from the case. We just prefer to keep the rest a surprise and let the random demo relases show the updates, and even then intentionally exclude ALOT for the first full release.

There will be a few more shots as the new player characters and GUI are added and characters in battle. all of which will be in taken in the already displayed Dungeon and Village. No others.

These shots Mega wanted to see. In game Dungeon shots (mega, as you requested)


These are in game dungeon screens. Unfurnished, resident free, torches unlit and obviousley you cant hear the ambient music. Again to be discoverd in game.







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Christ, what has happened to that tower's UV coordinates? And why is half of it missing??

No lightmapping either?


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you didnt give it to me lightmapped,bonehead 1 model and textures. what you see,is what I got.

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Yeah, now that I looked it closly, bloody 3DWS didn't even export lightmap...and the .x tower it exported is complete crap. What a cat-litter program...back to Cshop4.1 for me.

Bleh.


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i'll lm it tonight or the weekend.
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Got a few emails and msn's of people asking whats going on with the project.

Alot has been added and coded since last update but I'll throw these up for the sake of it. Day and Night shots of a fraction of the 1st Village.

Lightmapping will be applied after the village is complete
Doors and Swinging Door Code to be Added
Tree's to be Added
All buildings to be Furnished (furniture is complete)

As always, thank you Mega for help with Models and Thanks Lost In Thought for help with code.

In the back ground is the new Cathedral(serious church upgrade)
Night


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Wow! The smoke looks great!



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Just thought I'd drop in to say that this looks frickin awesome Great textures


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Sweet sexy santa socks...


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Appreciate the encouragement,guys.

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Would be nice if u could explain how u made that crazy good lookin smoke - I need it for my -> game

It's me...
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Quote: "Would be nice if u could explain how u made that crazy good lookin smoke - I need it for my -> game"


http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=68973&b=1

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Ok,this(step in the project) wont be progressing any further as im crawling back into my cave to study vectors(thanks lit), physics(thanks zotoaster), my new DBP Programming Volume 1 and whatever other perls of coder wisdom I can drain from LIT.

All code and source has been made available at
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=68973&b=1

Extra models and music have been made available to the OMMORPG project. If you want them,go give them a visit and your support in return for what they are providing,free to the community.

Once again,a major thanks to Lost In Thought,Megaton Cat,David T and Zotoaster for their time and paitience with my persistant hounding for help and information.

As always,you can gaurantee that the Juxta Tempus Project will pop up again in a few months.

Quote: "Mods,please lock this."


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