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Lukas W
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no i meant i downloaded compona so i could make some tests with it in C++ but it was impossible. and i couldnt run the Demo files that came with it either.

ps. i ran your latest release.. 0.5 or something, but i can not write any code in the txt window awesome ide.


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@ Lukas W - Why couldn't you write any code?

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Posted: 11th Jan 2006 08:31 Edited at: 11th Jan 2006 08:34
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beats me

there is no cursor in the txt window.
when i press the white in the txt window the caption on the header of the txt window tab at the top changes from "new file" or something to "directory of where i unzipped the files".

but maybe you have fixed it without knowing it.
when will we see a newer demo? the one with the dbp ide skin look awesome.

"I'm looking at March. I been working on this since November 2004."
yay. i sure hope youll finish it by that point, or finish a stable release.


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Posted: 12th Jan 2006 02:29 Edited at: 12th Jan 2006 02:53
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Quote: "there is no cursor in the txt window."

It looks good to me. I'll download the demo and try with it. I see no problems with the lastest build.

Quote: "when will we see a newer demo?"

Unsure right now... Got a few more things to do. I'll post a screenshot of where I am tonight.

Quote: "the one with the dbp ide skin look awesome."

Asuming this is for the source editor, thanks. I couldn't get the gradiet on the left for the gutter though

Quote: "yay. i sure hope youll finish it by that point, or finish a stable release."

It is fairly stable and right now usable except for saving .dbpro files and compiling.


Edit: Did not see nything wrong with the demo but when I uploaded the new version, some reason, new version was never there. So here it is.


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why cant i load a dbpro file?

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Posted: 13th Jan 2006 03:02 Edited at: 13th Jan 2006 03:16
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Becouse the dbpro file will primarly used for Dark IDE to compile a DBP project. You still will be able to save and load a dbpro file(compatibility reasons of course) buts its not all the way in at the moment.

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oh. its a much better looking interface, but compatibility is a big concern.
I downloaded your demo, and its nice but you have a lot of third party controls there, i mean there must be 30 controls in there? what do they all do?

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there are only 4 third party controls being used. Compona SyntaxBox which spans about 3 or 4 of the files in the main folder, SandDock for the dockable windows, SandBar for the toolbars, and Navisight for the toolbox looking control that the media is displayed in.

For compona, me not know why he used so many files to make it, I know one of them is for the syntax control itself. Then another is for the syntax documnt, the one more for his common controls, all three of those are needed.

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Gen, are you using a plugin system?

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Yes, everything is a plugin.The Project Manager is a plugin, it handles everything related to creating, loading and saving projects.

The output window(not sure if it is the last demo) is a plugin.

The Dark Basic Editors plugin handles DBP source editing. Dark Basic Common plugin has the language editor and Media, Cursors, Icons window to add media to the DBP project. Dark Basic Compiler Services will handle everything related to compiling a DBP project.

Download the demo and disable all plugins, close the IDE then reopen, you will have an empty window.

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and this uses the .net framework?

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Yes, .NET 1.1 - After the initial release, I'm going to port it to .NET 2 to take advantage of the new features.

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like what?

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For the IDE, built in web browser, the menus and toolbars(hoping to remove one morethird party control), mainly better newer controls.

For me, better debugging support in VS 2005 and class designer.

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I have a built in web browser

however Im thinking of skinning the menu's and toolbars depending on what people want.

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Sorry for no updates or info lately, I was out of town for the weekend then got back home and had computer troubles. I seem to have bad luck with hard drives and my powser supply will soon go, it is giving trouble.

I will start developing Dark IDE agin in hopefully a couple days. The open with dialog is just about done, just need to get it saving and loading open with items then walla! There is one more window I want to get finished then I may release another demo.

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Very nice work Gen. I look forward to using this IDE once it's complete.

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David, did you get my email?

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Posted: 24th Jan 2006 03:08 Edited at: 25th Jan 2006 05:17
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@ rlopez - Thanks for the comment

@ PowerSoft - Yes, got it the day before my comp screwed me, it barely holding in right now. I keep it turned on all the time for now so I don't have to fight with it to try to get it to turn back on. I need a power supply and 2 hard drives


I got open with window finished and done some cleaning to the code when the IDE closes. Thats it for the past 2 days. I'm going to get some odds and ends tied togethor for the project manager over the next couple days.

I'm still pushing for March to release!

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Posted: 25th Jan 2006 05:19 Edited at: 25th Jan 2006 05:50
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Heres a screeny of the "Save modified files before close" window.



I'm now down to compiling this one is going to be fun

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You basically use the darkbasic compiler.

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Quote: "You basically use the darkbasic compiler."


Yes, this is for DBP and hopefully, soon after, DBC.
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will the source code be released?
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Hey, I got a great idea.

In the options menu, have an option for DBC or DBP. Then change the syntax and compiler accordingly.

Looks really nice, keep it up! PS, what language is it? I'll guess C#.


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Quote: "will the source code be released?"


No...


Quote: "In the options menu, have an option for DBC or DBP."


DBC sometime after the first release, hopefully soon after.


Quote: "Looks really nice, keep it up!"


Thanks


Quote: "what language is it? I'll guess C#."


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Here is the last release for a while. Just about everything is in working order and this is about everything that will be in the first release. Now, all I have to do get on with compiling.

Download is ~800k zipped.

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still havent done that yet??
do you want an example or explanation of what I did to compile?
and please dont show those stupid progressbars because they slow the whole friggin process.

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Quote: "still havent done that yet??"


Nope, this will be very complex as the IDE is plugin based. I do think I found a fairly good route on how to accomplish this.


I do have one question for you though. Have you got debugging working yet and if so, is it done by the CLI set to yes in the dbpro file?
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I have debug mode working and yes it is done by setting cli=yes in the dbpro file. step through is probably done by appending a ! to the start of each line though.

plugin based eh, you could have the ide write out the fullsourcedump and just have the plugin make the special window and send messages back and forth, but I wouldnt do this unless the IDE is designed for more than one family of languages.

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Compiling has been started, and should be finished in a couple weeks. Though the IDE will be close to a releasable state, I have broken some things somewhere and I will either need to take the time and find where things was broken or I may just rewrite the broken parts (needing to be rewritten anyway, this I may do).

I've got the web browser for the most part working, it still needs tweaking in some areas... Here is a screeny, this post was made from within Dark IDE.

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Gen,
Has this version be translated to .NET2 did you say? What is the control your using for the webbrowser? If its .NET2 I presume it's the one that comes with it, no?


Looking very nice and swish though. Very professional, who needs Synergy?

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Sorry but I've been too tied up to do any testing Looks good though.

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No it is not in .NET 2 yet... I need to come up with $800 first. The web browser wraped the ActiveX web browser then then is kinda wrap again to be used on the tab documents.

Quote: "Looking very nice and swish though. Very professional, who needs Synergy?"

Thanks for comments.

Quote: "Sorry but I've been too tied up to do any testing Looks good though."

It OK, me too know how it is to be busy.


I have found 3 bugs so far. One involves the browser and won't be nothing to fix, then save file as just saves the file and undo and redo is broke

This is bout it...

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Very cool but you'll need to leave it as a .net version most/all people have

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Just wanted to give a quick update on how things are going with Dark IDE.

Compiling is going faily good so far. What I am going to have it do is: when you compile, the dbpro project file is created a saved into the same directory as the Dark IDE project file. You will optionally be able to save the dbpro project file without having to compile. And be able to load a import a dbpro project.

My target release date still very well looks like next month Lets just hope I can get the syntax files and help documents done which I can if I really work on it. I should have compiling working in a week or two, so that gives me a whole month for the help and clean up the IDE.

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I read through a couple of the last posts made, and checked out the screens, they look great. Do you have any plans of seeing if TGC could use this as their new IDE? The design is simple, but elegant.

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@ Torrey - Thanks for your comments.

Been a while since an update to the progress. Well... Compileing is now working, you can compile, compile then run, run the last compiled assembly and debug! Next I'm going to try to get messages from the DBP compiler and have the progrees of the compile show up in the ouput window (like in VS).

After compiling I'm going to start polishing up the IDE and get help files on the way. This part will be time consuming

And I want to ask now before I forget, I would like a few beta testers, if you would like to test it out please email me and let me know. I will write a plugin devoted to beta testing to try to make easier on the testers

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it would be better to just retrieve the error.txt that goes in the dbptemp dir. so you could have multiple instances of the editor open. the memory map thing where you try to get the error message from the filemap will cause problems if you have more than one instance open. well it did for me.

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When I try to get the line number from the file map, all I get is 0's. When I try to get the messages, I just get a 12 or so digit number. I'm going to try to get it down and working.

@ re faze - I never thought about getting errors from error.txt... I'll probaly go that why for now and just get line number from the file map.
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There! I have had it for a while, just havn't added till now

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Text and rich text editing has been implemented, just got to get the format toolbar in and working. I'm now down to getting the help in, will be working on this most of the next couple weeks, and cleanup.

Here is a screenshot of text and rich text editing:


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Can you confirm if the webbrowser is supposed to work?

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It works here... What problems are you having?

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Another update... I'm reworking how Dark IDE compiles now, making some nice improvements and now have a way to compile a single source file, which before you could only compile projects.

I'm also going to make some improvments to the DBP source editor, add more control over it and some other nice improvments.

Thats about it at the moment, all still going well.

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Here is a public beta release, compiling should be working. If there is anything wrong or not working the way it should please let me know.

Edit: Also, the output directory you specify in the project properties, the directory needs to be manually created as I don't have it created when you compile at the moment.

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Anyone?

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Downloading now, I've been interested in this from the start. Be interesting to see if it lives up to what you had planned.

Oh just for reference, you might find it easier to add all of the command syntax by scanning the string resource of DLLs. It's a fairly simplistic task in .NET, so worth doing. Saves on developers like myself constantly making .ini files.

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@ Raven - There is a langauge editor, which sad to say I need to take another look at (3rd time and still not saving keywords ). I have created a custom keyword setup and I will do my best to keep it updated. If a keyword you use does not get highlighted, it can be added easily and let me know about it and I will add it in.

Some keywords does not get highlighted right now as I'm still working on that end, I have had several ideas on making it better which will be done as soon I get compiling tied up a little bit more.

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Yeah I noticed it's not syntax highlighting everything.
Also I can't get it to Compile or Run.. do I have to set anything for that?

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