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Dodic
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Posted: 1st Apr 2006 23:48
Well, it was nice to 'know' you guys, though in start i got some bad vibes, i deserved them, you helped me a lot of times with my projects, supported me, etc. and i respect that.

But i`m just not good for 3d programming/3d modeling/2d programming/2d drawing, and decided to leave.




Megaton Cat
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Posted: 1st Apr 2006 23:51 Edited at: 1st Apr 2006 23:54
What is this, like the third time?

Sure then. And goodluck with the baby!
(I hope this isn't a cruel April Fools)


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Dodic
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:07
Nice Site you got there, Megaton, i think that you should really do something with your abillities, i mean join with someone to make a game or something, becouse you really make STUNNING levels, professional looking and easy to follow tutorials (before i read them, all my levels looked like... well i`m emberassed to talk about them(it to be precise),but after it, i made better levels then i ever could in FPSC !) ...


Chris Franklin
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:14
Quote: "But i`m just not good for 3d programming/3d modeling/2d programming/2d drawing, and decided to leave."

Don't give up just because of that dodic u should have seen my first game i never released it was a cube that spun round and you had to click on the corners Now look at my games

Dodic
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:17
Quote: "Don't give up just because of that dodic u should have seen my first game i never released it was a cube that spun round and you had to click on the corners Now look at my games
"


You really think so ?


Chris Franklin
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:19
yea it's all about learning it took me ages to learn dbp just give it more time and for 3d design well i have a pic here somewhere i used to just adjust cube segments and that's it Just give it more time everyone starts at nothing and progesses up

Dodic
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:21
Maby i should give 'it' another chance.


Well folks, this wasnt an April fools, but it seems that Sunrise 3D made a good point, quitting is not good.


Chris Franklin
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:23
Register an msn account i've got some codesnippets you can learn from

Dodic
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:26 Edited at: 2nd Apr 2006 00:28
i just have


edit: I added you to my contact list, just login .


Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:26
Keep at it, there are many games to be made, and a lot of the best games are just about gameplay, and nothing more. You just need an idea that is a bit new.

Chris Franklin
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:28 Edited at: 2nd Apr 2006 00:29
@dodic
Register it on msnmessenger i'll add you after i've got some sleep

How to register with msn messenger

download msn messenger say u r an exsisting user
sign on ur e-mail details
wait for msn messenger to install
logon

Dodic
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:29 Edited at: 2nd Apr 2006 00:32
Yeap, an idea is mostly what i need, but i`m prepared to learn, and listen to people who know more then i do . (and eaven those who dont)

p.s. Great logo, could you make one for me?


Megaton Cat
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:29
Quote: "i mean join with someone to make a game or something,"


Way ahead of ye.


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Dodic
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:30
You have ?


Chris Franklin
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:30
ok send me a screen of the project you want it on and i'll scale it and that in photoshop then add the project name and motion blur in

Dodic
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:31
Quote: "How to register with msn messenger

download msn messenger say u r an exsisting user
sign on ur e-mail details
wait for msn messenger to install
logon "


Did all that


Chris Franklin
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:32
ok i'll be on later it's 23:32 here need to get some sleep

Dodic
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:33
Yeap, its 12:33 here, so i need to get some sleep as well


Lukas W
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:33
dodic,
did you ever see my 3d modeling/2d drawing skills?
im embarrased just mentioning it

my forum - still in development
Dodic
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 00:35 Edited at: 2nd Apr 2006 00:37
Quote: "dodic,
did you ever see my 3d modeling/2d drawing skills?
im embarrased just mentioning it "


Heh, thats not that bad.. You made a great map editor, what else can a guy expect from you ? And your forum`s going pretty well as well, if you need any help, i could perhabs help a bit, i know some php/mysql.

p.s. Megaton, could you sign in your MSN for a couple of minutes ?


Matt Rock
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 01:08
Eh, quitting is for quitters, quitters never win, winners never quit, and never never happens... okay, I just soiled myself in confusion.

Anyway, yeah, don't give it up. Did you ever hear the saying "there's always someone better?" Well, it works in reverse, too... there's always someone worse! Have you seen my last release, "Cheney Hunter?" Granted I only whipped it out in a few hours of actual work but still, even if I really truly dedicated myself to that project it wouldn't have come out much better. seriously, you shouldn't give up. Over time you'll get better at coding/ modeling/ drawing... it just takes time, caffeine, patience, and some down-and-dirty work You'll get the hang of it.


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Kevin Picone
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 01:13 Edited at: 2nd Apr 2006 01:14
Quote: "But i`m just not good for 3d programming/3d modeling/2d programming/2d drawing, and decided to leave."


One word.... Focus

Rather than spreading yourself across so many fields at once, pick something that interests you and 'Focus' your effort upon exploring that task.

Remember, You don't have to finish everything to learn something!

It takes time to get good at programming ( whatever that means ). The more projects, demos you write, the more competent your programming skills will become. But, you don't have to a brilliant programmer to create great programs.


Moreover, don't let what you see others producing get you down, rather use it as your inspiration ! As ultimately what others can do is irrelevant, as it does not impact upon what you can do!

Dodic
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 01:19
Thanks guys, for good words, it means a lot .


Cash Curtis II
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 03:16
I've been programming for years. It does just take time.

Here's one bit of advice - One project at a time. Anything more and you'll never get anything done. I promise.

The admiral
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 03:23
Yeah I think we all think about quitting at some point I often want to give in thinking noone cares but then I know I can produce great stuff if I keep at it.

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Cash Curtis II
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 03:25 Edited at: 2nd Apr 2006 03:26
Quote: "we all think about quitting at some point "

I do not understand that odd collection of words...


Matt Rock
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 03:54
Start off by making a silly text adventure. Work your way up to a trivia game. Then make some freeware with 2D graphics. Then go for either (A) a 3D freeware game, or (B) a 2D shareware game for additional fine-tuning. If you go with B, make your next project a 3D shareware game, or start working on a demo with a basic working engine for a 3D game. By the time you finish all of these projects, you'll have every ounce of programming knowledge you could ask for, especially if you make a few of them multiplayer.

And don't forget that you don't have to do all of the work yourself. You could assemble a team to work with you on the basis that they'd earn a percentage of the title's net profit, or if it's freeware, just offering the experience is sometimes enough to get people to work with you. My team currently consists of two programmers, three lead designers (two of whom have other jobs), a few 3D modelers, a few 2D artists, a foley artist, and a studio musician, most of whom live in the same city as me and all of whom are working for a basic 3% commission of the game's net profits on a bi-weekly basis. You might have the same resources at your fingertips without even realizing it! And if you don't, you do have the internet, which is your gateway to a plethora of talented individuals. Just keep in mind that you always have options. But if you decide to go with a team, albeit over the net or local (which is always preferable if it is available to you), keep these rules of thumb in mind:

A. Don't fuss with visions of grandure. You might truly love your game and expect 1 million+ sales, but in reality, you'd be pretty lucky to break 50,000.

B. Be professional, but not fool-hardy. Don't lead your team to believe they'll all become millionaires, but at the same time, make sure your team is properly organized and efficiently produces the assets your project needs.

C. Contracts! The worst thing in the world is to have people drop out at the last minute, or in the middle of your development cycle, or never show up at all. Make people sign contracts which assure that both (A) you'll pay them when money starts coming in, and (B) they'll provide the work that they're signing up to do in a timely fashion. If anyone tells you this is crap and won't work, tell them they're full of it because if it can work for me, it can definitely work for you


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BaZko
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 05:39
Very inspiring thread guys, keep at it! Quitters = n00bz Me = frmer n00b

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ionstream
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 06:08
I'd say that judging by the fact that you said that, you are still a newb.

BaZko
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 06:10 Edited at: 2nd Apr 2006 06:13
In DB,yes, other languages,no.Took little time looking at it when I started and moved on, and now realised how easy it is compared to other languages,only for games though...programs dont really come out too fast, although I havn't tried BleGUI and such

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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 06:37
well Dodic,

when and if you go...
if its day, make sure porchlight is turned off
and if its night, check to make sure porch light is on.

and oh yeah!,
close and lock the door too.

cheers
MartinS
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 21:45
Please don't leave Dodic! To tell you the truth, I haven't even made a pong game! No, seriously I haven't. I just need help with bouncing though...

-Martin

Philip
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Posted: 2nd Apr 2006 22:43 Edited at: 2nd Apr 2006 22:43
Frankly, giving up is a loser's way out. Everyone has to start somewhere and nobody said that coding was easy. You've got to keep going, start simple, and work upwards. Make sure your expectations are always realistic.

And don't eat cheese directly before going to bed. Its bad for you.

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Chris Franklin
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 00:35
yea as i was explaining to him on msn it takes time and he's a nice member of the community as well but some people didn't give him a chance

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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 01:00
Quote: "But i`m just not good for 3d programming/3d modeling/2d programming/2d drawing, and decided to leave."


Thats because you're new, I was total b*llocks when I started lol, heck I still haven't made single game, instead I would aim for the big one straight away with no pong remakes or driving games.

Well if you feel obliged to leave, then the best to ye, however the only things you should quit are cigarettes, drugs and picking your nose well laterz then dude

Don't ask, I just have to put my friends duck in my sig
soapyfish
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 01:10
I wonder what I'd be doing in my spare time if I never started coding.

I AM A MORON
and won't change my sig until I get off my oversized behind and finish a project.
Megaton Cat
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 01:11
Prostitution, most likely.

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What?


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Dodic
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 01:14 Edited at: 3rd Apr 2006 01:15
Thanks guys, for the bestest comments ! (i expected something totaly different)

You just conviced me to try again .


Quote: "Prostitution, most likely."


Megaton, i have nothing against you, but are you giving this sort of comments just as joking, or do you mean serious ? I mean, you are the only one giving such comments...


Megaton Cat
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I was born 1 3 3 7.

It's a curse.


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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 01:16 Edited at: 3rd Apr 2006 01:20
Quote: "Prostitution, most likely."


Well hey, I could make a lot more money in a lot shorter time.

Quote: "i expected something totaly different"


A lot of people that get told they're leaving don't get this sort of feedback. But most of them are only leaving because they've not been able to cope with the rules.

I AM A MORON
and won't change my sig until I get off my oversized behind and finish a project.
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 01:17
or a lot more money in a lot longer time....dependin on the customer...

Snow Wars is making its return, check out the Game Design Theory board for more info...
Dodic
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 01:19
or in prison .


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its only illegal if you get caught, its what my pa' taught me

Snow Wars is making its return, check out the Game Design Theory board for more info...
Megaton Cat
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 01:37 Edited at: 3rd Apr 2006 01:37
It's better to go out with a bang then to rot in a State Prision Facility.

And yes Dodic: I R joking.


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Dodic
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 02:01
Quote: "And yes Dodic: I R joking."

Thats what i thought.. great


Zotoaster
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 02:32
Quote: "I`m leaving..."


I'm leaving, on the midnight train to Georgia!

Dodic
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2006 02:33
Good luck with the trip !


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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 02:44
Nemoj da ides, Srbi se ne predaju

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re faze
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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 03:22
hmm, didnt like you that much anyways :S

Dodic
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@BaZko : Na 'Srecu' (Neciju valjda..) Necu da idem.. Odlucio sam, zasto bih?.. U Svakom slucaju lepo je cuti tople reci toplog jezika...haha(sta ces, mi nemamo lol..)


@re faze : My cat really hates people saying 'things'..sorry i cant stop what might happen soon..


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