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Geek Culture / [LOCKED] Issue 40 - May 2006 Newsletter

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Richard Davey
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Hi all,



Issue 40 of the TGC newsletter is out.

There is another sneak peek at Dark Physics, with some example source code + a shot of the documentation you'll get with it. Upgrade 6 is (as most of you know) now officially out, but we spend a few lines talking about what comes next, plus preview the new help file format.

There are two uber tutorials from Steve and Grant. Steve concludes his HUD tutorial, and Grant kicks off a 3D Arcade Environments series. Throw in a healthy dollop of FPSC news, PlayBasic happenings, Forum chatter and related pieces and you have the May issue,

http://www.thegamecreators.com/data/newsletter/newsletter_issue_40.html

Cheers,

Rich

(Sorry Cash, thanks for the post you made, but I prefer to do these)

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 12:33 Edited at: 3rd May 2006 12:34
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Great magazine!
Speaking of which out of curosity is their going to be a published mag? Looking forward to Dark Physics and the new help docs look great!

[EDIT]I was the first reply![EDIT]

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We are still deciding (upon a printed magazine). The numbers have to be right, it is a quite expensive project to undertake if you go at it properly. Still not resolved the issue of distribution either, are looking at PoD solutions.

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Looks awesome! Cant wait to get Steve's tutorial to work...

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 14:29
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Quote: "(Sorry Cash, thanks for the post you made, but I prefer to do these)"

No worries. You said you were tired, and everyone was anxious to see it. Great stuff, btw.


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Quote: "We need to concentrate on making sure that the Dark Physics and Dark A.I. releases go smoothly this month, but beyond that we plan to release an upgrade to the Dark Game Development Kit that will incorprate the U6 (and 6.1) changes."


i.e. yet another humongous wait for DGDK users...

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 15:40
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I'd hardly call 2 weeks before dev starts as 'humungous'.

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Great read, thanks Rich.

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Quote: "I'd hardly call 2 weeks before dev starts as 'humungous'."


The problem is that we all know that 2 software development weeks never, ever equal 14 earth days. Not by a long shot. I should know, I'm a developer...

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 17:51
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I said 2 weeks before development starts. It can't start until Lee is back - and when you're on a (well deserved) holiday, holiday weeks always equal normal weeks.

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 17:58 Edited at: 3rd May 2006 18:01
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Cripes. Double post.

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Quote: "I said 2 weeks before development starts. It can't start until Lee is back - and when you're on a (well deserved) holiday, holiday weeks always equal normal weeks."

Ahhh. In the newsletter it sounded as if DGDK wasn´t going to be worked on until the DarkAI and DarkPhisics parks are released. If it will be started on when Lee gets back that´ll be great.
P.S Just thought. Why didn´t Lee take his holiday in a weeks time and go see E3? That´s what I would do...

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Quote: "In the newsletter it sounded as if DGDK wasn´t going to be worked on until the DarkAI and DarkPhisics parks are released."


That was my understanding too...

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Posted: 3rd May 2006 18:42 Edited at: 3rd May 2006 20:36
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Thanks Rich

Quick note, Mech Commander 2 Source Code link goes to a Sudoku Solver thread in code snippets.

Whoops:: Was already pointed out by Saikoro in other thread.

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Quote: "That was my understanding too..."

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Cool! Thanks for mentioning Laser Assault 3! It was made with DBC though, not DBPRo

Cool issue!

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I cant understand why everyone cries alot about that DGDK. It is a side project like FPSCreator and it will be always left behind DBP for a short period of time. If you dont want to wait stick with DBP. That just my opinion. Developers cant work on 2 big projects seamlesly...

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Quote: "it will be always left behind DBP for a short period of time."

i think the complaint here is that it's taken more than "a short period of time"

but, i'm not an any rush to get it updated...

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Quote: "i think the complaint here is that it's taken more than "a short period of time""

Indeed - theres been no office update since around the middle of last year...

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Quote: "If you dont want to wait stick with DBP."
And you will get updates every month!

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Posted: 5th May 2006 08:35 Edited at: 5th May 2006 08:44
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Olby does make logical sense!
[EDIT]How does DBpro and the SDK compare anyway?[EDIT]


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I hate people complaining, as thru my life I always did all my self. Dont like SDK get something different, as you can see everyone here at TGC is busy working on latest releases so you should be patient and not rush the party.

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Yeah, right. I hate people complaining, but I also hate to pay the double and get half the support.

I also claim for the DGSDK update. I'm more than disappointed.

Quote: "we plan to release an upgrade to the Dark Game Development Kit that will incorprate the U6 (and 6.1) changes"


Blah, blah, blah... Cheap talking all the time.
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Quote: "(Sorry Cash, thanks for the post you made, but I prefer to do these)"


Myself being a notable exception to the fact. That's right, I'm gloating.

I must say though, excluding the fact that I find the text to be a little too large for my liking, I definitely prefer this format to the older ones. Good show.


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Wow Thanks for mentiong my irc channel #fpsc in the fpsc news area Great read

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Quote: "Myself being a notable exception to the fact. That's right, I'm gloating. "

Blah.


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Quote: "Dont like SDK get something different"


It's too late for this after you have paid for the product, isn't it?

Quote: "I hate people complaining, as thru my life I always did all my self."


So you're suggesting that, after buying dgsdk, a person should just buy DBPro and code a complete wrapper to call it from C++ so as to not complain? That is the only way I can see one could apply the "do it all yourself" approach.

I find this reasoning... well, I won't even comment really.

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Quote: "So you're suggesting that, after buying dgsdk, a person should just buy DBPro and code a complete wrapper to call it from C++ so as to not complain? That is the only way I can see one could apply the "do it all yourself" approach."


Ironically, that's how the entire concept came about. TCA/Stinky Stoat/Flappy Frog wrote a wrapper himself and then was asked to remove it when TGC created DSDK.


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Twas IanM who had the wrapper/interface library.

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Whatever, it's irrelevant anyway.


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Quote: "Ironically, that's how the entire concept came about. TCA/Stinky Stoat/Flappy Frog wrote a wrapper himself and then was asked to remove it when TGC created DSDK."


No he didn't, and no he wasn't. This is like a forum urban legend or something.

Even the true author (IanM) will attest to the fact he removed it of his own doing, and no other reason.

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Great issue as always Rich. I'm loving the looks of DarkPhysics and DarkAI.



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The new format help looks very nice and more complete. I'm impatient to see it. And thanks to TGC for this great 6.0 upgrade.

DarkAI seems to be very interesting.

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Even the true author (IanM) will attest to the fact he removed it of his own doing, and no other reason."


I'm not entirely sure why you always choose to deny this.







Yes, he chose to remove it himself but as I did say, he was 'asked'. As far as the legalities go, it's irrelevent (although Philip claims IanM wasn't breaching anything). Either way, let's not play these games anymore, it's all in the past - no one cares anymore anyway.


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OOooo... nothing like a good convoluted yarn like this to keep the crowd interested.

Incidently, wrapping a publicly-known API, as far as I know, is not reverse engineering: It may be illegal if it goes against the usage licence, but it's not reverse engineering in the strict sense...

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Heh Dave J
What are the little ticks boxes next to the profile button in you pics?

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Darth, he's a mod so he has extra functions. You'll also notice the IP address, but he's deleted the "send army of Palestinian Liberation Army troops to destroy user" button from the screenshot.



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I thought that is what the tick box was for ...

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This tick box is for multiple post deletion, I guess...

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No thats the "send army of Palestinian Liberation Army troops to destroy user" box. The multiple delete boxes are the furry red ones with blue centers which is removed accidently with the IP blurring.

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No, the tick boxes are used for multiple post deleting and the "send army of Palestinian Liberation Army troops to destroy user" function.

There's a set of controls down the bottom where you specify which you want to do.


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Can you send another screenie?

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Yeah, something showing the "set Palestinian Liberation Army ratio of tanks to paratroopers" control.


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No, the fascist colonial oppression control is not a toy!


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Please!

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Well if the Enterprise can use fascist colonial oppression control as a toy, then you should be able to as well.

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that was a good mental chew. thanks TGC

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Edit: Ok, forget that.


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Got my own urban legand - whoohoo!

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