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Fallout
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Posted: 12th Jun 2006 19:19 Edited at: 12th Jun 2006 19:20
hehe. My ex-girlfriend and I used to play LAN Diablo 2 and Dungeon Siege. It was a good alternative to watching movies. But girls playing compo games is fairly rare.

There are many many many many girl programmers. At uni pretty much every DEC related course has a programming module and a lot of girls are on DEC courses. There were 5 girls out of about 90 peeps on my Software Engineering course and 5 out of about 80 on the degree I've just finished. During my placement year I had two female coders on my team, in an office of about 20.

Boys are all about gadgets and compos and women aren't, hence the difference in numbers. The girls I've spoken to about it have always kinda said they landed in a programming job fairly randomly though. Few seem to persue it. I'm not really surprised. It is a horrible boring tedious machine like geeky nerdy profession.

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Posted: 12th Jun 2006 19:20
heh i didnt say anything about that... just didnt know you were female

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Posted: 12th Jun 2006 20:12
You didn't think my Avatar was a bloke did you? I mean c'mon, gaze into those lovely eyes and not tell me a pink hat would look better?

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Posted: 12th Jun 2006 20:29
ultra-no

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Posted: 12th Jun 2006 21:00 Edited at: 12th Jun 2006 21:00
Quote: "ultra-no"

Thats right, because that avatar is an ultra-man (that I happen to resemble). Don't worry about those confusing feelings you are having CattleRustler, they are perfectly natural. Sort of. If you know who my avatar really is then this will all be perfectly funny and I will be a God of comedy in your eyes. Otherwise I will be a strange fella who people worry about on forums. Come to think of it feel free to add "or both".

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Posted: 12th Jun 2006 23:14 Edited at: 12th Jun 2006 23:16
Quote: "Quote: "i do however know a few girl gamer, that good enough?
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What? Where?"


my clan prides itself on being the only clan (that we heard of) that only recruits personal friends that we've met through school or living locally etc rather than searching the internet for pro players with initiation tests etc, 2 of our members are girls so far, but we also have a few female pseudo-members. that is to say they may pop round at a lan party, but not bring their own pc.

(we also have pseudo members who we dont know perssonally but play with us a lot, namely adr and oneka, but im not sure of their gender )

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 00:38
Erm, if you only have members who you have met through school or live near by then how come you are unsure of a couple of their genders?.... slightly worrying.....

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 00:44
@Tinkergirl

Quote: "who says they don't already have a nice coder-boy of their own ;D"


Sorry. Don't believe you. But don't take it personally. I'm a trained sceptic. I'm damn good at it.

@BearCDP

Quote: "The first programmer was a girl, Grace Hopper."


Judging by that picture of the (.. ahem ..) "girl", I can see why "she" was the first and last too.

@VanB

Quote: "I think mens brains are better geared for coding,"


but mostly for obsessing about women's boobs.

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 01:30
Quote: "Sorry. Don't believe you. But don't take it personally. I'm a trained sceptic. I'm damn good at it."


That's ok, Philip. You be a sceptic, and I'll grin inanely at my professional coder bf (who, by the way, is not a Star Trek nut). I kid thee not. You can be sceptical and continue to obsess about boobs.
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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 01:59
Quote: "Erm, if you only have members who you have met through school or live near by then how come you are unsure of a couple of their genders?.... slightly worrying....."


Quote: "we also have pseudo members who we dont know perssonally but play with us a lot"


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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 02:50
Quote: "but mostly for obsessing about women's boobs."

Are you saying that's a bad thing?

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 05:03
TDP is a girl?!?!?!










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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 05:06
Try not to loose sleep over it.

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 09:03
my girlfriend doesn't play video games, and thats the way it should be.

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 10:51
Wouldn't want the competition, eh Wigget?

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 11:02
Heh, come to think of it, it would kinda suck to have to share your PC.

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 11:36
thats it van b traci ahh dark memories of basic interludes.

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 12:02
Quote: "remember men use the logic side of their brain more, and don't do crazy things like try to use both halves of our brain at once. No offence to all the 1337 coder-women here."


Hence Tinkergirl's level design thread.

Many of the girls in our class eventually failed programming and shifted to the sissy IT + business course. Such is life in computer science... Although we've had female top-notchers with GPAs of 3.7+ in our college's history.

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 13:38
once in IRC, this girl came on asking for help, i remember saying "funny how when a girl enters a room, everyone suddenly pounces to help and get attention"... what do you know, 2 days later, this girl admits to actually being a boy, using the plan of pretending to be a girl to get away with being a noob, and is later shunned from the channel.

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 14:49
Quote: "Yeah, Randi was cool, but nowadays she prefers to paint watercolor - see what I mean!, why can't these women devote decades of their lives to this stuff like we do!. I don't think it was just your crazy antics that made her want to leave Wigget, she got a strange reaction from everyone here ."


Made her want to leave Wigget? What happened?

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 16:27
Quote: "my girlfriend doesn't play video games, and thats the way it should be."

You tradionalist....


I'd love it if my girlfriend played video-games with me itd make me cry out in joy... But i'll live with teaching her how to pimp out her myspace page....as is *still* the craze in my area....

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 17:22
But then you would have to push her to lose all that facial hair.

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Posted: 13th Jun 2006 17:32 Edited at: 13th Jun 2006 17:32
I once got owned in GTA:SA multiplayer by a hot girl. No joke.

She was whoring the flamethrower.


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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 01:04
Quote: "That's ok, Philip. You be a sceptic, and I'll grin inanely at my professional coder bf (who, by the way, is not a Star Trek nut). I kid thee not. You can be sceptical and continue to obsess about boobs."


Ok. I'll temporarily restrain my scepticism and accept the existence of the professional coder bf who is not in fact a Star Trek nut, despite the strain that puts on my cardio-vascular-legal-cynical system.

As TDP says, what on earth is wrong about obsessing about women's boobs? Every man on the entire planet has done this since the dawn of time. Probably there are male things that live in the bottom of ponds who, after a hard week's work, go down to the local equivalent of the pub, and exchange views about the general attractiveness of the local female things in the bottom of ponds. Thats a free insight into the male psyche for you there. No charge.

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 01:05
Quote: "I once got owned in GTA:SA multiplayer by a hot girl. No joke.
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was she your sister by chance?

And i had a superbowl party and for the 45min before the pregame we had a coupel hot chicks attempting to play halo, well one (now my girlfriend) kept getting sniped by my friend, and she went pshyco and started beating him with a pillow. Owned.

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I are you saying I'm ugly.

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 05:31
lol pwned at san andreas?! the multiplayer in that is where the woman is in teh car with you, how did she kick your butt?!

@arkheii: I dunno, i think there was some thread about this damn awesome horror game she was making and someone said something about the bra in her avatar and i said something like damn that game looks good and she cut sick at me and left the forums...

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 05:44 Edited at: 14th Jun 2006 06:00
Quote: "was she your sister by chance?"


If I had one, it would still count.

@Wigget: If that's the only multiplayer part of GTA you played, you missed out on alot.


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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 08:59
This girl who rode my old bus plays games, (we're talking stuff like Medal of Honor, Counterstrike) and designs web sites for clients. I was astounded when I heard this. She is fairly attractive.


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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 09:07
i knew this girl once who played games... I think she was Female...

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 17:15
Quote: "I are you saying I'm ugly"
Yes. Yes I am.

Quote: "I think she was Female"
Precisely. It's hard to tell underneath the facial hair any large protuding eyebrows.

If it was online and you were beaten by a girl, then it probably wasn't. Got to admire the ability to beat you while only using one hand too.... Now to run away...

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 19:51
^^ eeewww...


hahha no I just wanted to contribute to these amazing and heoric stories about female geeks making it to the top.

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Posted: 14th Jun 2006 20:37
Personally I've found the *vast* majority of programmers are men. Dunno why. Out of about 100 in my University course about 5 were women (1991). 3 dropped out very quickly (3 months) to do physics instead. Apparently computer science was an easier way into physics.

When I used to do interviews for programmers (upto end of 2001) again was mainly men. Although the stats were more like 20% were women applicants. Our department never reached more than 25 in number, and of the 20 programmers we never had more than 2 women at one time. That said, QA normally had one or two women (out of about 4 or 5), and training (of customers) were normally 9 out 10 were women. Support (not customer support but programmers fixing bugs) had about the same number of programmers as us (development) but even less women normally. Although customer support (answer the phone and deal with any issues that weren't programming) was always something like 90% women. Project managers were normally 50-50.

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Posted: 15th Jun 2006 00:32
The reason women don't become coders is because they don't like to go long periods doing nothing more than staring at a flickering screen, swearing occasionally, eat some pizza, fail to wash and wear crap black "Red Dwarf" T-shirts. And grow a scraggly beard.


By a curious coincidence, this is also almost exactly the same reason that I chose to become a lawyer rather than a coder.

Well, that, the money and the opportunity to inflict evil, pain and suffering on other people. Ahaha.

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Quote: "Well, that, the money and the opportunity to inflict evil, pain and suffering on other people. Ahaha."


You could've just opened a MacDonalds man.

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Quote: "wear crap black "Red Dwarf" T-shirts. And grow a scraggly beard."
Heh, I have promised to shave every day for the last 3 weeks (got bored) and would have to go on a bit of an expedition to find my old "Smeg head" T-Shirt.

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From racking my brain for memories (i forget a lot), I think I only know one female nerd, but she doesn't program.. Besides, I think a gurl (yop thats the right spelling) that doesn't mind the programming and associated things (well obv im clean!) is a much better prospect than one that programs : inferiority complexes

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Posted: 15th Jun 2006 21:45
@Fallout

No. I said -money-

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Posted: 15th Jun 2006 21:48
Ahhh. Sorry, I thought you said chronic obesity. My bad.

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Posted: 16th Jun 2006 11:36
How about twynklet? Anyone remember her? (at least I think its a girl ) And who can forget the girl who wanted to be a programmer in the Dont Copy that Floppy video?

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Main one I remember was Traci. Think she did that demo Equilibrium (sp?) that everyone was talking about for quite a while. Jumped ship to Blitz if I remember rightly.

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Posted: 16th Jun 2006 19:28
Its actually a wonder that Tinkey has survived this community for long. I think she should be made a MOD as an award.

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Survived? *sighs* If only my sanity had been that lucky.

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im a girl. :p
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Nvm

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Ergh... Can we ban that picture.. it is rather annoying...

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Lame-o-land.


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@Chris - Not funny.

@Everyone else - I remember on the RGT forum there was a girl who posted a WIP of a black and white horror game that looked like you were playing inside of an old movie, with grainy effects and artifacts, etc. It was very cool--- surreal and cool. I don't remember her name though.

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Quote: "@Chris - Not funny."


Sorry

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Aww i wanna know what it is now

I think tinkergirl's only rly survived due to lots of dbp challenges.. :p

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