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Geek Culture / Bully - The most controversial game of all time. Your take on it?

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Van B
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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 15:02 Edited at: 4th Sep 2006 15:09
From the trailer I'd say you looked more like a little ned/chav, shaved head, color open and turned up - the dude didn't look that fat to me...in fact:



This is the dude you play AFAIK.

Wigget, you ever watched the documentary series about the young hispanic gangs, '18 with a bullet'. Damn kids have got it easy compared to these guys, it's a stark contrast to a bit of bullying when your involved in gang shootings. It's a really interesting show, you should check it out.

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I do not know what real bullies are thinking when they act, but there must be some thing in their head, telling them the person they dislike is some what a better person than they are, so they get angry and attack.

Some times it is completely random, because the bully just wants a laugh and to look good infront of his brain dead friends.

All a bully wants, is attention. They will pick on people just so people will notice them.

Ive known a few turds in my life also, they are all really sad, lonely people, who need to pick on others to feel good, to get a kick out of their sad lifes.



Now that there is a game out, which is focused on billying others, there is bound to be a few losers who buy the game and think it would be a great idea to push a kid of the top of the school building, just to see them hit the floor, to see if it looked like the game.

You can not blame the parents for how the child acts, it is the childs own fault for being the way they are.


The thing about not being able to afford camera phones, well, there is a 50/50 chance that the person holding the phone got it of the back of a truck. Bullies dont just pick on others, they will also turn to crime if they cant get a big enough kick out of hurting people.
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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 15:43
Higgins,

''You can not blame the parents for how the child acts, it is the childs own fault for being the way they are.''
Nonsense, who raised you? society?
Parents are the only people with real permanent influence - if the kid turns out bad it's never because of their loving parents. Seriously, show me the parents of one of these happy slappers, so I can slap them.

Bullying is proven to stem largely from mistreatment at an early age - parents, siblings, whatever - it's the early age thing that counts.

''Now that there is a game out, which is focused on billying others, there is bound to be a few losers who buy the game and think it would be a great idea to push a kid of the top of the school building, just to see them hit the floor, to see if it looked like the game.''
Is that even in the game? - are you assuming what this games about or do you have real information?

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 15:53
Come to think of it, jumping to the old 'Rockstar' conclusion isn't a good idea, Bully sounds like an okay game, even if it will attract chavs .

Higgins,
Parents generally are to blame if their kid becomes that bad, parents can't stop their kids mistbehaving, but they can stop them turning out as bad people, everything around the child (And around everyone really) affects how they become, but with good parents, the kids generally will be good, depend on other things out there. Its really just social influence/conformity, something natural to humans. Which is why I had the point against the bully, because I felt that bullies have bad parents, bad parents generally let kids play any game if they can afford it, therefore buying Bully and picking up Bullying is okay...But Bully doesn't sound so much as a Bullying is okay, no more than TV shows/movies in the point of view of the jocks/bullies.

Quote: "Seriously, show me the parents of one of these happy slappers, so I can slap them."


Happy slapping is crap and don't get me started on Chavs. Our Chavs here don't happy slap, but rather shove through you and try to take out your legs with their feet.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 16:01
I may have typed some stuff without having any thing to back it up. But I am sure some parents are not the cause of their childrens hobby, as in bullying. Even if there is only one family where this is true.

I dont know much about the game, but what I have seen on the site, its not a game kids should play. There was a scene where a bigger kid said some thing like "Iam going to beat you, just because I dont like you" and had him chasing after a fat kid. That may not lead to brain dead acts like killing, but it sure is what happens in schools already.
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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 16:04
And that's why it'll be an 18 certificate game.

While parents have a lot to do with it (and Higgins, saying that there's at least one family where they're not the cause, is pretty spurious - there's always exceptions to every rule) I'm sure some kids go bad at the later stages - when peer pressure comes to count more than parental influence. But heck, if people on the internet had the answers to all life's problems, we'd all be sorted.

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We are all a product of our experiences and our genes. So that means friends, society, environment and events all define you as a person. Parents make up a massive portion of that experience though because they're the ones that are always there, or never there in some cases. If you get beaten up every night by your dad, that's going to define you as a person.

I saw a cool documentary the other day where they interviewed a mafia hitman (from prison obviously) who had brutally murdered over 200 people. The psychologist talked about some interesting genetic traits that the guy had. For example, one such trait he had was a complete lack of fear. That's a genetic personality condition, and nothing to do with his upbringing or parents. It had a scientific name, but it was his genes that allowed him to fearlessly attack and kill 6 men by the road side in this one particularly encounter, having to reload between executions. Most of us would brick it, even with a gun, against 6 guys face to face.

That can manifest itself in two ways though. Something like 1 in 10,000 people posesses that particular genetic trait, but most of those people become stuntmen, skydivers, race car drivers etc. He started killing people from a young age instead. That can be attributed to his "experience product" where he used to be beaten by his dad and received little love from his mum. He never learnt the ability to love, because he never received it. He started of torturing and killing animals and eventually moved onto people.

I mean, basically there are key genetic things that define areas of our personality but none of them have an end product. It's our experiences that bend them towards the end result, and parents make up a huge amount of those experiences. If they give you the wrong ones, they'll warp you the wrong way. You can visualise it like intelligence. We're all genetically predefined with how smart we are, but you've got to learn and put the information, maths, algorithms, skills etc. in to get anything out. Genetics provide the foundations, but life experience creates the finished building.


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Personally I'd say the 6-o-clock news gives kids more ideas than videogames - they see the next big craze, see all the outrage (e.g. happy-slapping), and think that'll be cool - at least the more impressionable (e.g. kids looking for something fun to humiliate someone else with). How else would these anti-social stupidities become nationwide, sometimes worldwide?
The 'wrongness' of what they might do is something that is instilled by parents at an early age, kids who get severely bullied at an early age, and see the perpetrators get away with it loose that sense IMO.

I think the games more about fighting bullies than actually being one - that's a much more acceptable concept than bullying itself, this is probably not how Rockstar are selling the game to the media though, because they just wouldn't be interested otherwise. Let's remember the Rockstar games that our Scot's friends did not produce - nothing exactly startling there really, they need the publicity and are echoing off what reactions they got publishing GTA. Marketting departments are completely different animals to developers and designers, they have to sell the game, and Bully will sell by the truckload. Anyone think the designers and developers of Tomb Raider were glad that the media focussed on her attributes rather than the groundbreaking gameplay?

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 17:28
I fought a bully once...I lost the fight...but in the end I won, he left school before he should, he smells like poo and nobody likes him, but now, I probaly could take him...

Quote: "I saw a cool documentary the other day where they interviewed a mafia hitman (from prison obviously) who had brutally murdered over 200 people. The psychologist talked about some interesting genetic traits that the guy had. For example, one such trait he had was a complete lack of fear. That's a genetic personality condition, and nothing to do with his upbringing or parents. It had a scientific name, but it was his genes that allowed him to fearlessly attack and kill 6 men by the road side in this one particularly encounter, having to reload between executions. Most of us would brick it, even with a gun, against 6 guys face to face. "


Psychological conditions do come into play, not just the conformity to the norm of a person's society and upbringing. Which upbringing etc. can't effect. Pretty much anything can effect a person's behaviour, hence these for and against violent games arguments, I say as long as the upbringing isn't negative, then the kid will be fine in that area. Good parenting can help stop the stuff with peer pressure (But not 100%), but you're screwed when it comes to genetic/psychological issues

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 19:28
Official name change, and info on the gameplay. Sounds like harmless fun (And the minigames sound interesting, from a design point of view - anyone who can make English fun...)

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"Canis Canem Edit"? Am I the only one who thought "What the hell?".

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No your not the only one...

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 20:58
It's just a wierd name. Bully sounded better.

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Bully is not the most controversial game. GTA:SA is. I used to be a rockstar game fan, but their recent games are just to mindless.

Grand Theft Auto started out as a harmless little game with an overhead view. I loved the Original Grand Theft Auto, I loved Grand Theft Auto 2, But my favorite GTA game has to be Grand Theft Auto: London 1969. They used to be controversial, but not grotesque.

about the GTA3 era, they started making it trashy. Then with that "Vice City" crap, I stopped buying them. I played Vice City once, and sold it. The added things like Hookers, A Stip Place, A chainsaw, and other stuff. The GTA series has gone from a harmless little game, to a Realistic Murder Simulator. I never played SA, but I'm willing to bet it's even worse, what with that "Hot Coffee" thing!

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Quote: "Grand Theft Auto started out as a harmless little game with an overhead view."


Harmless little game? From the very first GTA, it was all about running over pedestrians and shooting people. You got cash for running over mass amounts of innocent people, more cash for blowing up buses full of rival gangsters, and just pretty much acting like an all-around prick. Are we talking about the same little cute overhead GTA here? Just because the graphics evolved doesn't mean the game's intent has changed.

No one's forcing you to play it. Every GTA game in my opinion was been excellent, and much better then the previous. If you're not mature enough to handle it, then that's really not the game's fault. Simply don't play it.

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GTA London was great, I liked GTA III, never played Vice City and SA...was too crap for me, it didn't work for me, the whole 'biatch' culture winds me up for starters.

Quote: "It's just a wierd name. Bully sounded better"


Calling it bully will p*ss off politically correct mothers too much...if they're gonna try and get all smoking scenes in Tom and Jerry edited out, thinking their kids will smoke, a Rockstar game called Bully will have them get their hand bags, and once they do that, they are scary...

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Quote: "Then with that "Vice City" crap, I stopped buying them. I played Vice City once, and sold it."


More fool you, it was one of the most involving and expansive games released on the PS2 (and I guess PC after it). The freedom of movement, the insane stunts you could pull, the day/night cycle, the soundtrack.. that game was awesome in every respect.

Quote: "The GTA series has gone from a harmless little game, to a Realistic Murder Simulator."


Realistic Murder Simulator? WTF? Are you wearing a Jack Thompson Fan-Boy jock strap or something? There was nothing remotely 'simulation' like about GTA3. Baddies could be killed with almost one shot and died almost instantly, cars exploded like they had a trunk full of semtex, etc. It's not even close to a 'murder' simulation - Sam Fisher pulls off more neck-snapping, bone crunching, head pulverising, intricately devised grotesque kills than anything Vice City had to offer, and in more gory detail too.

I never bought GTA:SA because actually I agree, the whole 'gang' culture thing doesn't appeal to me and I find it somewhat retarded (related music, clothing and films included). Which is a shame because I bet the Axel Rose radio station was a blast.

As for that Hot Coffee comment, crawl back into your ill-informed hole before you do your gaming knowledge rep even more damage here.

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Jack Thompson Fanboy...that's the term I was looking for.

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Jack Thompson Fan boy aka Dumb Ass.

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Well, stupid people generally pick up stupid followers.

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[sarcasm] If you want a controversial game play Enchanted Arms! There's a gay guy in it! [/sarcasm]

But in all honesty, I can't believe this is getting so much attention when there is Lego Star Wars II... it is rather perverse to have cleavage on a frickin' lego character. Even if it's based upon Slave Leia.

And for those of you who don't know, the name change isn't in the U.S.

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it doesn't actually say 'Jimmy Hopkins' is a bully, just one of those naughty and mischievous boys at school, you know the type, the ones that thinks they are 'hard' but aren't really lol, although Jimmy has been expelled from every school.

I think I will get this game, lol

seriously, you play a character who becomes reformed, he starts to stick up for the nerds, geeks whoever and stands up to the 'bullies', so you don't play a bully, your a kid who works his way up the ranks so I suppose when you reach the top of the food chain you will be perceived by others as 'The Bully'.
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Quote: "...Lego Star Wars II..."

Now there's a game I'm getting. Looking forward to it - only a couple of weeks to go! Co-operative, collect-em-up, completeists-nightmare that it'll be. That, and I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for new Wii info from the Nintendo events on the 14th and 15th. *rubs hands gleefully* Come on, Ninty - show us some goodies (and tell us some release dates!).

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Quote: " Which is a shame because I bet the Axel Rose radio station was a blast."


It was, you have rage against the machine, soundgarden, Janes Addiction (Although I don't like them) Guns n Roses (obviously) and many others, shame GTA did become the gang culture when they decide to put in known music onto the stations...

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I don't like the whole gang thing, but to me GTA:SA was just comedy and I thought gameplay wise it expanded so much on GTA:VC and once you got passed the whole gang thing it was a good game.

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Yeah, the gangsta' thing didn't really bother me either, I just snickered at it. Plus you get to kill alot of the "biatches" which sorta makes it all good.

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Quote: "'You can not blame the parents for how the child acts, it is the childs own fault for being the way they are.'
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Most amusing. When I was a kid the parents of the bullies always looked like they had shovels for hands and faces like the side of a coal skip (ie. bigger and more nasty/ vulgar versions of their kids). Fathers were even worse I made friends with one once and he showed me his house. Complete with bathtub full of toffee that they fed the pigs they used to use for food. Twas quite clever really as the toffee lasted ages and meant you didn't have to do much. This was on a council estate, not a farm. FFS....

Personally I never had a problem with bullies. Main thing is to not be 3 foot tall, not to back down massively, and try and have a laugh and not look like you just soiled yourself. That and befriending blokes from the next couple of years up usually helps too Blackmail with speccy tapes back in the day helped some of the more spannered kids out (ie. people who look more like pasty faced vegetarians than vegetarians do). Top stuff.

Oh, and Lego Star Wars II is going to seriously impact on my social life if the first one was anything to go by. I mean easy to beat, but addictive as pants and loads of fun trying to find everything. Plus I want my Chewie/Han hybrid character. Oh yes... And of course the new trilogy was only going to be a starting course for the kiddies. Which is all fine and good until the real deal comes along.

And stop teasing me by raising the topic of Jedi Wii again. There is only so many nappies I have left... gibber....

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The best thing about GTA:SA I thought is the bikes - especially the dirt bike and BMX, great fun riding round in those. Really the gang thing is only at the start - but it's the most entertaining bit. Really, you wander around, find some homies then go on a rampage, even if you don't like the culture you gotta appreciate the action that comes from it - easily the most exciting GTA battles are in SA's gang levels and territory mode. The first 1/8th of GTA:SA is like a 90's gang film, it's very authentic IMO. The rest of the game is typical GTA fare, but I didn't get bored of that game once. Plus, SA has a 2-player mode!, it might not be too feature packed, but it's decent fun.

Go buy it now and stop being silly!

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Quote: "Main thing is to not be 3 foot tall, not to back down massively, and try and have a laugh and not look like you just soiled yourself. That and befriending blokes from the next couple of years up usually helps too"


That's so true. I was never on the receiving end of bullying, but there was one complete nob that caused havoc for everyone. He was like a caveman throwback with the mental prowess of a lettuce and the people skills of Vlad the Impaler. I remember the main trouble he caused was in music (yeah, I took that GCSE as my "fun" one), and all he would do would track you down while you were trying to do your compositions, nick your keyboard, bash on the drums everytime you tried to do a recording, steal your batteries from your equipment and throw them out the window, nick your school bag and lock it in the music cupboards then hide the keys. Basically a cock of the highest order. He was also dead arm king, and used to smack you up when you least expected it. We were all intimidated by him, but the kids who showed it got it the worst. I got him back once by taping drawing pins to my arm, spike side out obviously. Ooooo.

The thickest bullies are always called Graham btw.


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or Gordon - anything that affords them the nickname 'Goggs' .

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Quote: "Games where you try to sleezily pick up women, complete with swimming sperm minigame? Ok. (Lesiure Suit Larry).
Games where you decapitate your enemies in a shower of blood? That's fine too. (Many fighting games since Mortal Combat)
Games where you're a hired killer, sneaking into people's homes to garotte them while they go to the bathroom? No problems. (Hitman, and possibly others).

Game where you bully kids at school? OUTCRY!!!"


Quote: "How is it no-one complains about the likes of Hitman (kill the target in the most sick and elaborate way possible), the breast bouncing Dead or Alive games, the atrocious depiction of females in just about all titles, the gross-out violence in some of the Japanese horror games, etc etc? They get away unscatched, yet fall into the game category. People are ******* hypocrits when it comes to gaming if you ask me."


Umm... there HAS been outcry over all of those games. It's an issue brought up by the media and current affair shows ALL the time. This is not the first game to be bashed by the media, almost all of the ones you've cited as being as 'OK' have already taken their turn in the negative attention spotlight.


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Ok, lets get something strait. The title I put up "Bully - The most controversial game of all time" was the title used in Game Informer. So you can quit with your personal bashes because it's not me who said it. Don't shoot the messenger.

It's interesting to see the correlation between video games, culture and society come together. I think it scares some people that we can do in video games what we can do in real life; make choices. Making a choice we wouldn't usually make in real life in a video game doesn't mean it's going to transfer over into real life. It just means were having fun. A games success depends on the player adventuring and doing something they wouldn't normally do in real life. Because if the player knows they can do it in the game but not in real life there more willing to come back and play it again. Going were no man has gone before and messing with lifes mechanics gives the player a feeling of absolute power. That power sells games like bully, gta and even oblivion.

Thats my take on it at least.
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hadn't heard of the series van but I will check it out. the main quam I had with kidulthood was just hte fact I wanted to go to those schools and slap these kids back into line. Just watching it going "I know this is a movie but there are kids out there like that, and it's not right!"

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Rockstar is synonym for high-quality games, including their latest ping-pong game. Rockstar is also synonym for media-bashing. The media always blow up stuff, like 'oh, you get points for bashing hookers'. Really? Sick! It seems most of the media aren't interested in the fact that that goes for any character. Its a game, and hey, some idiot gets the idea of trying it in real life. Sick! Terrible! Ban all Rockstar games! Sigh. I'm getting tired of 'controversial' games. Games are games. You play them for fun. I mean, what the? Let us play, if you don't like the idea, then don't buy it.

People saying, well, my 12 year old son played GTA for 22 hours straight and now he's become a zombie and tried to knife me (as seen on TV) - please, get psychological help! Why is that 12 year old playing 16+ games for 22 hours straight?

Bully the most sickest game ever? Lol, I guess that Quake 4 scene of the main character being cut to Strogg wasn't so bad after all. It's an 18+ game, indeed, so what children are going to play it? Rockstar has always been a straight-forward developer with high quality standards (compared to other developers). Controversial? Manhunt, that was controversial, lol. But for Bully: bring it on.

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the only reason id play it 22 hours straight was cause it was up to the missions where you gotta get from one en dof the city to another repeatedly an dalong the way I'd get busted or run outta cash. stupid games.

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My son plays a lot of Oblivion, and I let him, but he's only playing it when he stays with me - so it's like he looks forward to it all week, I don't have the heart to take it away. I do make him stop quite often for waffle breaks, but he probably plays a bit too much of it in one go.

If I ever designed a game like that, I'd add in health warnings, like play for 2 hours non stop and a little alert appears telling you to take a break. It'd annoy most players to hell, but I doubt anyone would complain that much.

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I disagree, put in a loading screen and it's grand, put a message telling people to stay healthy and they'll complain

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Manhunt is the only game that has really had a huge impact on me. It's not like after playing it I wanted to go kill someone, I more felt conflicted whilst playing it. I honestly couldn't finish past the first couple of levels because it felt wrong to be playing it.


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Actually, the Baldurs Gate series and Neverwinter Nights both had hints and tips on the loading screens - some of which featured comments like "Your characters may not require food and drink to survive - but you do!"

I think that they put limits on play time for either WoW or EQII in China, too. They were worried they'd get South Korean-style game-deaths.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2006 17:55
Quote: "If I ever designed a game like that, I'd add in health warnings, like play for 2 hours non stop and a little alert appears telling you to take a break. It'd annoy most players to hell, but I doubt anyone would complain that much."


I can just imagine a group of friends getting together for a long LAN party and having that little message constantly popup during online deathmatch.

I'm personally not one of those people who summons the amazing zeal that allows me to play games for many hours on end. Usually I get hungry, so I just go eat. Most of the time I get bored. But it still amazs me how people can simply ignore hunger while playing 10 hours of GTA:SA on it's launch date.

Cash Curtis II
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Posted: 8th Sep 2006 18:04 Edited at: 8th Sep 2006 18:04
There was a loser at Fort Bragg (he wasn't Airborne) that signed up for the re-enlistment college incentive. Basically, he could go to college full time for 6 months and only check in periodically with his military leader. No work at all.

He went a full 3 months hiding in his room playing Everquest, not attending college at all. Getting paid no less. I should find him now and punch him for being a loser.


Come see the WIP!
DJ Professor K
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Posted: 8th Sep 2006 18:05
I freaking love ROCKSTAR GAMES, why? Becouse it's fun to ingame go walk around, you see that crappy old man using an old and dirty shirt, and you beat the crap out of him, someone sees you, reports to the cops, the cops appear, and you beat each and everyone of of them, one manages to call backup wich bring the heavy stuff, you realise you're no match for that sissys in blue cloths and run for the nearest car, where you shoot the driver with one of the cops pistol, you steal the car, and with all the adrenaline, you run over inocent civilians. No one can stop you, until you loose control and hit a crash can, wich breaks the front car window and bashes your head. And there it goes ladies and gentlemen, an poor idiot killed by a trash can.

Now thats reminds me lots of movies.

Now if we look like lots of people in here, trying to stop rockstar games, then we should also stop hollywood, becouse of those movies where that black punks are killing inocent wite civilians, why? becouse movies are teaching to be racist.
We then kick bush, and osama **** at the same time, since both only want power and power, and they both are giving orders to their troops to kill this and that, to raid this and that.
Time for tv, will ban all late saturdy night shows, sicne they only say bad words on them.
Books? Ohhh mmmmyyyy goooooodddd, look at that, that thing came from a innocent tree, lets burn the books down as a way to protest.

Guys, a game is like a movie, it's just for fun, if you think that a game where you beat the crap of someone should be banned, then so should the movies where some poor innocent city is blowed up by a nuclear bomb that was made by a street thug.

Rockstar employees said lots of times: "We don't make anyone buy any of our products." "Our products are just one more exemple to releife from stress, from work or from sckool."

Finaly, to finish my testment:
Nowdays people, borns on a ruined world, where only wars and street fights are our food... tv, street, books, goverment, it's just that, wars, wars, wars. If someone, after living trought all this crap, manages to survive, it's really normal he like in some way, wars, evan if he only likes it when he releifs the stress, buy giving punchs on the wall, hitting the wall with the head, shouting to the nearest guy/friend, playing a game or watching a violent movie.

In case you wonder:
From what my docter and my parents, i don't suffer any metal problems,
When i see a fight, i normally move away from it, unless if i spot if there someone i know fighting, in that case, i try to get help to stop the fight (i don't jump in there and fight)
I'm a brown belt Judo student,
I like to socialize with people,
I have a lovely girlfriend,
I love my yonger sister, i help her on her homework, i help her on the computer, and i help her on many thing,
I'm pretty much a normal guy, the only thing that i think it isn't normal is that, i like to stay home.

Rockstar games aren't retard or anything, almost every game out there has violance, look at wow, 2 faction killing each other for supremecy, sw: galaxies, you can become part of the empire, EVIL MUHAHAHAHAH.... gunbound, you are using massive mobile units to blow up your enemy, noooooooo.... as you see, each company has its violant game, but each company chooses what to do, make a movie like game? (gta) or make a fantasy style game? (wow) or perhaps those little kid toys style of game? (gunbound), it's just that, for ones, gunbound its retard, for others gta, but no need to call try to change what a company is to other thing, jsut forget about it

My love is seperated in 2 parts, 1 of them is 3ds Max 7, the other; FPSC.
Manticore Night
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Posted: 8th Sep 2006 20:12
Wow, that was long and strange.

[center]It's amazing how much TV has raised us. (Bart Simpson)

He's back! With 20% less intelligence!
Jeku
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Posted: 8th Sep 2006 21:34
Quote: "If I ever designed a game like that, I'd add in health warnings, like play for 2 hours non stop and a little alert appears telling you to take a break. It'd annoy most players to hell, but I doubt anyone would complain that much."


Wow, what a great idea I think it would best be put as an option in a long RPG or addictive puzzle game, reminding the user to take a walk. I think I'll put that in my next puzzle game hehe...

Megaton Cat
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Posted: 8th Sep 2006 21:44
Quote: "Wow, that was long and strange."


Indeed. Are we actually going to survive this world of "wars and wars"?

Sid Sinister
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Posted: 8th Sep 2006 23:08
Quote: "why? becouse movies are teaching to be racist.
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Huh... You don't happen to be a minority do you?

Sounds like a personal problem to me. Besides the fact that you feel that way what other evidence do you have?

Japanese television is violent as hell on a hot day, and they don't learn to be violent. In fact their crime rate is lower than ours in the U.S.

Go figure
PAGAN_old
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Posted: 9th Sep 2006 06:52
i look forward to "bully" it doesent look like a violent and bloody\gory game. but it does look very fun.

i dont really mind the stuff in grand thieft auto,exept for sexual content

dont hate people who rip you off,cheat and get away with it, learn from them
PAGAN_old
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Posted: 9th Sep 2006 07:37 Edited at: 9th Sep 2006 19:33
to add to that, rockstar games were always very original

and creative

one thing i respect rockstar is for their creativity.

dont hate people who rip you off,cheat and get away with it, learn from them
Jeku
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Posted: 9th Sep 2006 07:52
That's why there's an EDIT POST link.

Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 9th Sep 2006 08:26
on Bully...I think that critics are overexaggerating it calling it things like "Columbine Recreation", because it's nothing like that from what I've read. It's simply a recreation of schoolday fun.

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