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Rudolpho
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Just thought I might ask; does anybody of you know of any symphony metal bands similiar to Rhapsody or Nightwish? (And no, I think Evanescence is actually some sort of pop, so don't give me that!
(It's good, but I already own their stuff, so... ))

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Nicholas Thompson
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I only know of Nightwish - but will now be looking up Rhapsody. Nightwish are fantastic. I saw them live in london earlier this year. I was part deaf when I left, but it was such a good night!

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Benjamin
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I too like Nightwish, but they are the only symphonic metal band I listen to.

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Haha... Trans-Siberian Orchestra.


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I am a huge Nightwish fan. I have their end of an era concert dvd and
I will be going to see them next time they tour.

@Nicholas Thompson : I didn't know they had done any gigs this year with the departure of Tarja Turunen?

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These bands are alright, but not exactly my style. There's a 'song' by Jason Becker called Speed Metal Symphony, I have to admit, some bits sound horrible, but the rest is genuis.

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Symphony-X "V - The Mythology Suite", hands down. It has a slightly more Progressive Metal vibe than Rhapsody, but it's an awesome symphonic metal album.

Any of the Luca Turilli (Rhapsody's guitarrist) solo albums is good too.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2006 21:23
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Symphony X rules, so does Nightwish and Rhapsody, um Aina, look into it, within temptation for a more mainsteam style.

Go to Last fm (Click on my sig) and download their player and find music/tags that falls under 'symphonic metal' and play that radio station and you'll find some.

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Quote: "um Aina, look into it"


That too, yes. Good stuff.

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Jack
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I love wishmaster xD

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@Jack: Now _that_ link made me laugh outloud!!!

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Rudolpho
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@Nicholas Thompson: Indeed

@Saikoro: Never heard of; sounds like a strange name...

Quote: "@Nicholas Thompson : I didn't know they had done any gigs this year with the departure of Tarja Turunen?
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Wasn't that sometime around march or so; perhaps he was there earlier this year?

@Zotoaster: I might check that one up, thanks

@Miguel: Now that sounds kind of interresting.
Shall see if I can find anything with them
About mr. Turilli, I can't seem to find any stuff with him around the shops where I live (tried before ;( )

@Musashi: Within Temptation seems good from what I've heard (which is maybe 3 songs over radio, but anyways); however I've only heard ballads.
Is that the only thing they do, or...?
(Not that there's anything wrong with ballads)
Will see if I can come by some album by them and see
Will check your link, also.

@Jack: Whoa, I always wondered what the lyrics really were in that song (*lol*) ;P

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Dunno, I've only heard 2 Within Temptation songs, wasn't my cup of tea, but try em out a bit more and see if you like them.

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Tarja left at the end of October last year

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@Musashi: Will do

@Mnemonix: Was it that long ago.... I remember hearing about it on the news, but I thought it was more like a half year ago than a whole year ':b

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It was on the 21st October last year, after they played the Hartwall arena in Helsinki

Here is the dated open letter given to her by Tuomas Holopainen:

http://www.nightwish.com/en/article/6

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Rudolpho
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@Mnemonix: Ok, you win; you've got to be a bigger fan than me to keep track of all such details

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Posted: 9th Sep 2006 19:31 Edited at: 9th Sep 2006 19:35
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WOW thanks for itroducing me to this new type of mysic, i love it.

although i listened to nightwish - Nemo song, i think i heard it somewhere before but i cant remember.

Oh yeah i remember now, i heard that song on the radio when i was in Russia last year

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Posted: 9th Sep 2006 22:00 Edited at: 9th Sep 2006 22:04
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Ok,

Luca Turilli-Rhapsodys guitarist. Hard to get hold of, you may need to buy online.

Epica-Better than Nightwish IMO, I got Consign to Oblivion today. It's amazing. They're much more orchestral based than most symphonic metal though, with less emphasis on the guitars.

Within Temptation- Iffy. What I've heard off their Mother Earth album is great, but apparently ther new stuff is a bit evanescency. Mother Earth, Ice Queen and Dark Wings (songs) are awesome though.

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Wow, if that letter's anything to go by, Tarja's a bitch!

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Do the Black Mages count?


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Benjamin
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Posted: 10th Sep 2006 05:35
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Not exactly symphonic metal.

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@Bahamut: *Getting Epica today*
Sounds interresting

@Saikoro: I don't know.... I like most FF music as it is though ;p

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Rudolpho
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@Bahamut: Whoa, Epica's great!
I got An Epic Journey today, allthough, I wouldn't call it metal at all, since it's just played by an orchestra =P
But as said, it's great; thanks for letting me know of them; will probably get Consign to Oblivion if I can find it

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Try Apocalyptica, its like Metal on the Cello, google videos has a few of their music videos, its weird stuff, they've got one album where they play metallica songs.

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Epica isn't just an orchestra, they're a band with a backing orchestra. They're technically metal but it's more of a loose term.

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Here are a few apocalyptica videos if you wanted to see what they're like.

Path - Guest starring Sandra Nasic
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3038087838272868842&q=Apocalyptica

One - Metallica Song
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5477750569780565425&q=Apocalyptica

Seeman - Rammstein Song
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4788906800247883666&q=Apocalyptica

Unforgiven - metallica
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4413736111386107311&q=Apocalyptica

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i can name some relevant bands.
luca turilli
sonata arctica
ensiferum (some of their tracks)
wuthering heights

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Symphony Metal? Never heard of it before. I'll have to take a listen. Dragon Force? Machinae Supremacy? Do they count?

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Just took a listen to epica and now I don't think either of the two I mentioned count!

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i started listening to nightwish yesturday. the singer, what nationality is she? i noticed a slight accsent

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She's Finnish, hence Nightwish performed for Finlind in 2001 for the Eurovision song contest (And Lordi this year taking the 1st place for the Finnish, loving it!)

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That You Tube video is promptly getting forwarded to all my nightwish loving friends hehe

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Quote: "She's Finnish, hence Nightwish performed for Finlind in 2001 for the Eurovision song contest (And Lordi this year taking the 1st place for the Finnish, loving it!)
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Finland have the best music period.

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Quote: "Finland have the best music period."

No.

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When you write period, your not supposed to put a period after it.

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Nightwish is awesome. Symphony X is great too. They've got michael angelo (the guitarist not the ninja turtle.) I think Dream Theater does melodic rock, but not too symphonic though.


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Quote: "michael angelo"


Do you mean Michael Romeo (the guitarist, not the lover)?

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Ugh. Force of habbit...

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Quote: "When you write period, your not supposed to put a period after it."


So what about "Dude I'm on the period."

Quote: "Finland have the best music period."


Mostly stuff from that area giving credit to Sweeden as well. Children of Bodom, Lordi, Opeth, In Flames, Katatonia you know the lot But then you get pretty much top quality music from all over the place, although I've listened to a lot (I mean a lot) of Sweedish/Finnish music recently.

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@Seppuko Arts: Shall check up Apocalyptica when I get the time

@Bahamut: I noticed that there's a band on Consign to Oblivion; however, there wasn't any (that I heard, more than in the last track) on An Epic Journey.

@Pagan: Always the finnish.... *damn country-around-the-corner-whoose-language-is-impossible-to-understand.... *

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Well, there's a hell of a lot of popular metal bands from there; pretty strange when you think about it....

@Keemo: Well, melodic rock is also good.

@Seppuku Arts: Couldn't resist to tell you off; it's Sweden,
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Quote: "Well, there's a hell of a lot of popular metal bands from there; pretty strange when you think about it.... "

What's strange about it? Different countries have different mainstream music I guess.

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Quote: "Mostly stuff from that area giving credit to Sweeden as well. Children of Bodom, Lordi, Opeth, In Flames, Katatonia you know the lot But then you get pretty much top quality music from all over the place, although I've listened to a lot (I mean a lot) of Sweedish/Finnish music recently.
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CoB are Finnish. As are Kalmah, Nightwish, Finntroll, Lordi (not that good imo), Sinergy, Thunderstone, Ensiferum, Turisas and loads of other metal acts. So, erm, yeah...other than Old In Flames, Dark Tranquillity and a few others (mostly power metal or melodeath), Finland>Sweden.

Oh yeah, Luca Turilli's Dreamquest is symphonic metal. It's like his usual stuff (epic, loads of keyboards etc.) but this time with a female vocalist. Apparently she's called "myst" and her true identity is under speculation. Kinda like the Stig from Top Gear. I can't recommend it unfortunately because I haven't heard any of their songs.

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Oh, and Kamelot. They're technically Power Metal, but quite symphonic. They're really iffy though. Some of their stuff is great, some not so great. I recommend getting the free songs off their website first. Starting with Center of the Universe is probably your best bet.

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"Center of the Universe" is certainly one of their best songs. In fact, it's one of the best metal songs I've heard in recent years.

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I know, the only thing I'm guilty of is a typo or too gotta love those Sweeeeeedish

Quote: "CoB are Finnish. As are Kalmah, Nightwish, Finntroll, Lordi (not that good imo), Sinergy,"


I know I was just naming quality Finnish bands with the Swedish ones, guess I should have worded it a bit better...Also you reminded me, Sinergy is another quality band, something people should look up, they suprising did a good version to Abba's Gimm Gimme Gimme, as did Children of Bodom to Britney Spears.

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Quote: "Children of Bodom to Britney Spears.
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lol, I still haven't heard that, apparently it's actually quite good...

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@Benjamin: Just meant that it's a pretty small country, and still so it seems to have more of that stuff than most of the US. (It probably doesn't, but more well-known at least).

@Bahamut: I think I've heard that Tuomas of Nightwish lived in Sweden earlier. Nothing confirmed about that though, think I heard it in school some years ago.
Dreamquest also sounds interresting, by the way.

@Seppuko: Misspelling the same way twice in one post?

Quote: " Children of Bodom to Britney Spears."

I honestly doubt it could be any good? ;P

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Quote: "@Seppuko: Misspelling the same way twice in one post?"


It happens And thats the second time you've mispelled Seppuku...*shakes head in shame*

Quote: "ol, I still haven't heard that, apparently it's actually quite good..."


Its kinda funny, even has a guitar solo in it, I could post up an MP3...but I don't know the AUP and piracy laws as well as I should.

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Well.... um.... *whistles*
Such thing happens I guess; you've got a pretty complicated name though

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