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Ron Erickson
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Well, the new season started last night. I won't give any spoilers for the people that haven't seen it yet, but I must say, it was damn good.
Season 1 and season 2 were like completely different stories. Season 2 used season 1 as a catapult. The second season took the story in a completely different direction. It now looks like season 3 will do the same thing. It is moving in a completely different direction. I was concearned that it would lose some of it's feel, but if anything it looks like it is going to get even BETTER.
I can't wait until next week!

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Posted: 5th Oct 2006 10:55 Edited at: 5th Oct 2006 11:14
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Shhhhh!!!!

That and Prison Break season 2 make up my Thursday viewing - Lost rocks.
I'm thinking and hoping that this season will be more about the others, and what the hang they're upto. I'm quite intruiged as to why Henry tried to contact Locke, my theory is still that Locke's dad is involved with the others, perhaps even 'Him'.

As for Prison Break, well I kinda wish they'd get caught now, it's just too rediculous getting. Season 1 had an almost Tarantino feel to the government side-story, that seems to be missing this time round.

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Posted: 5th Oct 2006 13:44 Edited at: 5th Oct 2006 13:51
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Don't worry. I won't give any spoilers. I'll be interested to see what you think of it though

I will say this. So far it is COMPLETELY about the Others. In fact, they didn't do anything with the rest of the losties in this episode. It was only about Jack, Kate and Sawyer with the Others.

Let me know after you watch it. Maybe we can discuss it a little more in depth then.

I've never watched Prison Break. It looked interesting, but I can't be bothered to get sucked in to another show. Besides Lost, the other show that I have been into lately is Sopranos. I've been renting the seasons disc by disc from Netflix. Right now I'm almost done with season 4. I'll soon be all caught up, then I'll have to wait for the current (and final) season to be released on DVD. Its a great show

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I know what you mean, it was the hiatus after season 2 of lost that made us watch season 1 of Prison Break. The first season is great, very interesting, a little in the style of Lost in the way it's written - but prison escape stuff has always fascinated me.

I was expecting season 2 of lost to reveal a lot more secrets about the others, because thes sideline characters are great, Desmond, Zeek and Henry both added something special, and that's why they're more permanent roles - I kinda wish Ethan was still alive, he was about the only other that struck fear in people - imagine the shame in being put down by an ex-junkie glam rock Hobbit .

Hehe, can't wait - been looking forward to this for months, kinda shortens to week when you have something to look forward to besides the weekend. I'll most likely email you after watching it with my theories - I'd suggest joinging the Lost forum, but I wouldn't wish that travesty of a community on anyone (I'm avoiding it this season).

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I thought Prison Break was pretty good. Wasn't quite as good as Lost, but still a good show. I'm not sure if the 2nd season is being shown in the UK yet, but I'm a bit confused how a programme about breaking out of prison can have a second series sinse they've broken out of prison. Obviously it's got the conspiracy and "on the run" factor, but I guess it's not a prison drama now, which is what, for me at least, made it cool. Any recommendations for season 2?


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Dloading Lost now. Seen some of the previews and they just add to the suspense.

For me prison break has picked up since they left prison. There have been a few unexpected twists so far and I doubt they will be the last.

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That and season 3 of Battlestar Galactica, all is good at the moment

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Quote: " kinda wish Ethan was still alive, he was about the only other that struck fear in people"


Yeah. Ethan did have that spooky quality about him. Still, "Henry" has enough spookiness in his eyes to make up for the rest of them.

Quote: " I'll most likely email you after watching it with my theories - I'd suggest joinging the Lost forum, but I wouldn't wish that travesty of a community on anyone (I'm avoiding it this season)."

That's cool if you want to e-mail me. Of coarse, there is probably no harm in posting here after you watch the episode. I have checked out a couple of different Lost sites and browsed the message boards. I do think I'll be joing any of them any time soon

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Can't wait til it's on here, probably not until next spring.


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Maybe time to try all this torrent stuff everyone bangs on about all the time. Is it really that easy to download a tv prog? I heard that utorrent is one of the best ones to play with as it does not hog all your system resources.

I'm really tempted to download Season 3 that way unless Channel4 suddenly annouce early showing dates (but I doubt it)

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Instead of doing that, you can do it legally from ABC.com. Just go to:
http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

That is unless they limit access to only the US. I watched an episode of Desperate Housewives last season with it. It worked very well. In fact, I think rhere were only two advertisements throughout the entire episode and it streamed very nicely. I don't think it ever stopped to re-buffer.

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@Wolf- that's only the most recently aired episodes, i don't suppose there is anywhere you can get the first two seasons of lost? .... short of buying them of course

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Quote: "@Wolf- that's only the most recently aired episodes, i don't suppose there is anywhere you can get the first two seasons of lost? .... short of buying them of course"


I know a great place. Your video rental store

Seriously though, like I mentioned above, I've been using Netflix to rent the Sopranos intead of paying for HBO. Netflix is only like $10 per month and you don't have to pay postage on anything. Normally, we can get 2 or 3 movies a week if we send them back the day after receiving them. It works very nice

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Van, hurray. another Prisonbreak fanboy...

Seen all of series 2 so far on YouTube.

Its amazing.

The story, i feel, is just as strong.

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@WOLF - tried that link and you are correct it stops non-US people viewing.

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Now, if only there were webpages that will let you view sites as if you were from a different country... Oh wait - there are! (I don't actually know what they are, but I read about them on BoingBoing.)

As for Lost - watched the first eppy of Season 3. It was a doozy. Darn those Others!!

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Yay!, I'm gonna enjoy this season, the most annoying factor was always the amount of questions one season raised over the amount it answered - Lockes legs, the origin of the Others, what happend to the animals...

Looks like a lot of questions are being answered this time.

Spoiler comments...


As I probably said, Thursday nights viewing is unbeatable now, just a shame it's all downloaded stuff. Prison Break 2.7 was damn good too... (spoiler)


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I actually like how they are keeping lots of things unanswered. As long as things don't contradict each other, which they have done an excellent job of not doing, then it makes it that much more worthwile when they DO throw you a bone.

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I laughed when Sawyer figured out how to get the food, then Zeek said that the bears figured it out in 2 hours. lol
At least that explained the polar bear thing. I always thought they tied into something with Walt having some kind of powers that pulled them out of the comic book. Sometimes simple answers are better.
I wonder what they are going to do to Kate that the next 2 weeks will be "hell"??? And what is so special about Jack that he doesn't have to go into one of the cages?

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Couldn't resist - found out that whole of Season 3 Episode 1 is on youtube in various chunks. Just the opening few minutes was enough to get me excited.

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TODAY: BSG EPISODE 1 SEASON 3.0!
I never got into lost, but thank god, because I am a BSG addict. I get my fix every friday again! Yay!

In about 10 hours it is on!

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spoilers:


about the
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There was an experiment going on to test how polar bears reclimatize to hot climates. (it said this on the door that crushed lock's legs, the one that lights up with a map of the island. someone in the lost forums snapshotted the moment and did some fancy imagery to highlight all the text and pictures)

you can see the picture here:
http://lostpedia.com/images/d/d6/BlastDoorMapOverlay.jpg

interesting what you say about lock's dad
imo jack's dad isnt dead and has something to do with this. similar theories
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double post (i cant edit the last one since its still awaiting moderation (how longs the bloody process gonna take? >.<)

but also notice the hydra isnt on that map.
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I didn't see your posts before El Goorf.

I saw that map before on a message board. It is amazing the amount of work some people put into a TV show!

New episode last night. Awesome again. I won't comment until you all see it. Let me know

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so i take it it's every wednesday?

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Quote: "so i take it it's every wednesday?"


Yep!

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Lost has gone down the drainpipe IMO. It couldn't be more obvious the writers have no answers to all these mysteries they've set up and they're just making more and getting more ridiculous every time. Very dissapointing given how good the first season was.

Prison Break on the other hand - freaking incredible. Very different kind of show, but I'm absolutely loving the second season to far. Mahone's an incredible addition to the cast of characters. And his obsession with Michael is genuinely disturbing.

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Quote: "It couldn't be more obvious the writers have no answers to all these mysteries they've set up and they're just making more and getting more ridiculous every time."


I couuldn't disagree more. I think the attention to non-obvious details proves otherwise. To each their own, but IMO the plot has only gotten deeper and better.

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What about things like Locke's leg working again, and its sudden failure somewhere in S2 and then healing - plotlines like that that they've just dropped and left to rot?

Oh yeah, and what the hell is up with Jack shutting the door on the ocean? That was pretty stupid, you have to admit

Although I will say the actors are still generally doing a fine job with the material they're given.

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Quote: "What about things like Locke's leg working again, and its sudden failure somewhere in S2 and then healing"


Well, the healing was explained. It has to do with the electro-magnetic energy. It is the same reason Rose's cancer went into remission and that Jin is now able to have kids. As far as his legs NOT working at the time that Boon died, I think it had something to do with a mental control that someone (like the others) has over the Losties. There has been MANY occurences that different character's have had of "dreams", "visions", and people from their past showing up to haunt them. If you look at all of the different occurences, they were to get the character to do something. No person would be as powerful to use against Locke as his sudden ability to walk. It's some king of mind control, but it hasn't all been explained yet.

Quote: "Oh yeah, and what the hell is up with Jack shutting the door on the ocean? That was pretty stupid, you have to admit"

Yeah... That was dumb. I laughed out loud when they pushed the door shut. That is one of the only times in that show that I've seen something stupid like that though...

In general, I don't think they have "dropped" any of the plot. I think some of it will come back with a vengeance in time.

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Good theories, I didn't think of some of that. It still all seems a little too ridiculous to ever possibly be explained to satisfaction, especially with the 'black smoke' that somehow knocks down trees and makes mechanical noises and gives characters visions of their past, etc... but hey, maybe I'll keep watching.

One of the things I did like about Lost was how they weren't afraid to make all their characters be significantly flawed, but it also really annoys me how they seem to spend the most time with the most useless or jerkish ones (Charlie in S2, Jack and Sawyer all the time) and spend the least time with the most interesting (Sayid for example).

Maybe S3 will get the quality back up though. Time will tell.

Btw, since this is a TV thread, I have to take the opportunity to mention Veronica Mars. Incredible and painfuly underwatched show. For people with brains, much like Lost (although, ahem, it actually has resolutions to all its mysteries). Mk, plugging done.

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Actually I think Sayid is one of the more boring characters--- along with the new characters from Season 2. I guess to each his own.

My other friend raved about Veronica Mars too. Maybe I'll download or rent the first season and check it out


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I've got it on DVD, I'd lend it to you if I could . Trust me, the 'teenage girl detective' summary really doesn't cover how intricate, well-written, dark and hilarious the show can be. There's a lot of disagreement over which season is superior, as well, but personally I thought season 2 was just slightly superior. Can't really jump in there without ruining a lot of backstory though.

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Did they ever explain the "monster" in the woods? Ah well, doesn't matter anyway, I'm so hooked on this show.

I had the same gripes when my wife started making me watch this show: too many questions unanswered. But for the most part things have been ingeniously tied together.

I really like Sayid, I was ready for some come-uppance this past episode, I was really hoping Sayid would go medieval on someone. All in good time...

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The thing that's bugging me with Prison Break is that Schofield is diabetic, and is missing his shots, not eating right, so I'm convinced the writers either have a massing plot hole, or Scho is gonna end up unconcious. I'm betting on a plot hole myself.



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hes not diabetic, that was a ruse. He took meds to combat the effects of the shots

it was so he could get regular access to the infirmary

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Ahh!, I was thinking that, but for some reason I assumed he was actually diabetic.

Just been watching a couple of trailers, looks like this wednesday's Lost will be Locke back to his weird old ways, and I'm guessing we get to see him slip on the banana peel too. Not to be missed, even if you hate Lost.

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I don't really like any of these shows. But I have to say I love Heroes on NBC and HEX on BBC America (originally on Sky One in the U.K) and Wire in the Blood. Now those are great shows.

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I want to know what that monster thing was too, I never did find out what it was.

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This is just my theory but Walt has the power to "make things happen" so it may be him manifesting his hatred for his father. And of course because Walt himself doesn't realize he's doing it he has no control of the manifestation.
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how many more hours until episode 3?
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great, so i gotta wait till 2am >.>
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why do you have to wait till 2am? They only show it in the US don't they?

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I imagine he's downloading it - I tend to wait till Thursday night, what with getting up at 6 and all .

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I just want to comment on the coolest camera shot in the Lost series--- on Season 3 Episode 1 when:



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And while I'm here-- did anyone else notice the newest issue of Stuff (or was it Maxim?) that has spreads of the Lost girls? Tons of hot photos of Sun

EDIT II:

Haha--- watching S3 Ep2 and noticed the actress who played Trixie in Deadwood is one of the new characters. Cool!


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Very cool episode last night.



It is amazing how much the plot line has progressed already in 3 eopisodes!

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Actually it's more like:


At least that's my theory.
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wow awesome episode!!







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Agreed, that was one helluva episode - I'm loving this series.



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