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Zaibatsu
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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 02:30
I have to say this is the greatest movie I've ever seen. I recommend you get it. It is incredibly awesome. I bought it for $5.50 at WalMart. I'm on the lookout for the second movie, and am eagerly awaiting the third one, which is currently being made. I am going to buy the game of Ebay. Has anyone else seen this film?

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 02:40
I saw it in theatres and thought it blew pretty hard. If you like it then all the power to you, but if I remember correctly it bombed at the box office.

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yeah, most people don't like it (including me) but whatever floats your kiwis man!

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I thought the movie was ok, but really missed the points of the book. It would have been better if it had just been Bug Crusher or something and distanced itself from the novel altogether. DO NOT watch the second one it is one of the worst pieces of garbage ever to hit celluloid.

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 03:05
woah. all my friends though it was awesome. of course they like disco music too...

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 04:56
The first time you watch the movie it's serious... the second time it's a comedy.
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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 05:15
Loved movie.

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 07:57
Quote: "and am eagerly awaiting the third one, which is currently being made."


Ha!


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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 08:36
when i grow up im going to be a citizen.
doogie howser as a psi-ops used to crack me up however.
great movie.

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 08:39
The 2nd movie blow, the 3rd movie will royally blow - but Starship Troopers is pretty cool. It's kinda like Waterworld, bombed at the box office, critics hated it, but IMO sometimes you just want to see cool s##t happening and don't care about oscar winning actors or plot. It stars some action movie veterans, like Michael Ironside - IMO the movie knows exactly what it's trying to do and it does it well. I don't see much wrong with pop-movies like that, the Fast n Furious trilogy is another example, fun to watch so who cares about ropey actor performances and cliches at every turn.

I find these sorts of movie inspire a lot of ideas, especially for making a bug-blasting FPS, I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks Starship Troopers would make an awesome FPS game.

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 09:40
I've only seen the second one - but so little was happening plot-wise 20 mins in that I just turned it off.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 11:51
Yeah, Starship Troopers is a load of garbage, but great garbage. It has high powered pulse rifles, tactical nukes, hundreds of GCI grasshoppers, a drill instructor who breaks a dudes arm for fun, lots and lots and lots of severed limbs and heads and stuff and corny dialogue ... but most of all ... it has Denise Richards bouncing about. I mean, what the hell more could you want? A superb piece of rubbish!

Hello denise ...




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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 12:31
I think it's a great film - I remember seeing it at the cinema almost 10 years ago and being amazed.

Totally agree with "The only good Bug is a dead Bug"

Boo!
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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 12:33
Don't forget the coed showers.

Usually when the critics hate a movie I love it. My favorite genre is post-apocalyptic... so I love Waterworld.
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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 13:53
Quote: "of course they like disco music too..."

I like disco...

Quote: "so I love Waterworld"

I loved that movie, haven't seen it since i was like.. 9 though (or at least it seems like that)

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 13:59
I still see it as a dark comedy, although it took me a while to get used to it. I love it though, it's my kind of humour

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im doing my part!

yeah it's clearly a semi serious action comedy, its fun as to watch! it also did make an fps game, one that sucked, or was it the rts that sucked, I can't recall, although there was a hella sweet duke nukem 3d total conversion that didn't suck, that and the vietnam tc for duke 3d, infact back in teh day duke 3d had some seriously awesome mods!

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 14:21
Yeah, great film (esp. on the projector). 2nd movie is the biggest pile of pants ever though. I mean really. And I loved the 1st one. Really sucks... apart from that bird in it...

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Yeah, I really like the first one. It was confusing though, because it fliped through some really funny scenes and then some pretty important ones. After a few watches though, it all came togeather. And the second one... worse than a scifi original.


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Quote: "has Denise Richards bouncing about."


Shame she was clearly overdressed throughout... Because she certainly cannot act to save her life.

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Quote: "Shame she was clearly overdressed throughout"


Not all the time...

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If I remember correctly (it's probably been 10 years now) she wore a party dress at some stage, and that tank top very briefly - but other than that didn't she wear army uniform all the time?

What I do remember is that, sadly, she wasn't on that community showers scene.

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 20:11
Just lookup her name and Playboy. Not so clothed now....

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 20:44
Quote: "What I do remember is that, sadly, she wasn't on that community showers scene."

I´m glad I wasn´t the only thinking that.
Pretty crappy movie really. There were some funny bits, the shower scene, and some cool shooting but for the most part it bored me. It was so easy to tell who was going to die and who was going to live. And for the most part the ones I wanted dead didn´t die. The ferret was cute though. I want one.

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 21:15
Quote: "I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks Starship Troopers would make an awesome FPS game."


You must have missed the Starship Troopers FPS game that was released, then

Quote: "Just lookup her name and Playboy. Not so clothed now...."


And of course the movie Wild Things. Denise Richards

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2006 23:36
Quote: "I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks Starship Troopers would make an awesome FPS game."


they have one.

http://www.starshiptroopersgame.com/

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Posted: 4th Nov 2006 01:30
denise richards has strangely hairy eyebrows. there huge!

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Well, at least women have the power to change them to suit the current trends

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You guys actually liked that movie? Figures, you're all probably a bunch of Trekkies too!

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yeah i like the last trek so far - enterprise.

deep space nine was too 'days of our lives' trek for me.
the original is sometimes funny for a laugh
the next generation was bearable
captain jane ways version was a bit limp for me.
I guess now phaelex has told us off we should cower in fear for liking shows he doesnt.
I know not, im just a trekkie / starship troopers fan who pales in comparison to the allmighty phaelex.

I guess we have different tastes then yours phaelex, do you set the benchmark for cool or something?
good luck with that mate

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Posted: 4th Nov 2006 11:09
Quote: "denise richards has strangely hairy eyebrows. there huge!"


I thought that too ... and then I thought I clearly still 'would', so it'd be pointless to diss her 'brows.




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Quote: "yeah i like the last trek so far - enterprise."

Wha-??

Enterprise was canceled a while ago because it sucked so much... Have you seen past the second season yet?

After that they say screw it to the star trek universe and start making up this awful story line that never happened. They also make all the characters really angry and stupid, and that Vulcan whats-her-name they made really emotional and tried to give her sex apeall... I mean, she's a Vulcan. The acting became aweful, the story bevcame lame and stupid... after the second season it just wasn't worth watching.


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Whoa, ignore this, comp posted my post twice...


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Posted: 4th Nov 2006 16:18 Edited at: 4th Nov 2006 16:19
Quote: "denise richards has strangely hairy eyebrows. there huge!"
Yeah. Now I think about it she is a complete moose...



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Posted: 4th Nov 2006 22:50 Edited at: 4th Nov 2006 22:50
meh, who cares about her eyebrows anyway, we all know what we're all really looking at (well, pretty much everyone I assume....)

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Enterprise was canceled a while ago because it sucked so much... Have you seen past the second season yet?"


no we are about a year behind the states with shows, so not yet.

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ok. Well it's pretty good until the third season starts.


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Quote: "You guys actually liked that movie? Figures, you're all probably a bunch of Trekkies too!"


And what's wrong with being a Trekkie? (shows Vulcan sign) Our technological society is based on Star Trek. People that grew up watching Star Trek went on to make the technology they saw in the show. What you call cell phones I call communicators.





And it doesn't stop at cell phones. Many things including 3 1/2s to store information were on Star Trek long before they were real (Spock always used square blocks similar to 3 1/2s when looking for data in the computer). Star Trek often used current scientific theories in their storylines so everything you see in the Star Trek universe (including warp travel) is possible. Star Trek is a part of our everyday life... like it or not.
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UG! I feel like i need to go scrape my tounge with a butcher knife!

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Hey, lets not be jumping people with bushy eyebrows now. Don't make me post mine.

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1 hairy mono brow to beam up scotty.

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Posted: 5th Nov 2006 03:51
I have to agree with you Zaibatsu, Star Ship Troopers is my most favorite movie of all time.

Although SST2 sucked.

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Quote: "Although SST2 sucked.
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was it really that bad? would it be worth it if I could find it for $5?

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no... it just plain sucks...


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Apparently star trek holds the claim to fame for those sliding doors too.


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Nothing is cool unless I say so!

Nobody can take a joke?

Who watches StarTrek 2.0 on G4? I can't stand how they put all that crap on the screen. It turns my 27" tv into a 13"!

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Sorry I took it serious because I know a few anti-trek guys.

I heard somewhere they were going to redo the original Star Trek with updated special effects (computer graphics instead of models)... anybody know when and where they'll show them?
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Apparently they are already showing in the US. But I mean the space scenes may look amazing, but what about the ropey plastic pink planets when they transport down and the stupid green aliens? Nah...

Oh, and SST2 really really sucks. Really. And I loved the first one. Buy it for the one scene or two with the hot blonde minus clothes, but don't bother watching the rest. Honestly is rubbish. Makes Alien3 look like a fantastic follow up to Aliens....

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I didnt think Alien 3 was so bad...

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Quote: "everything you see in the Star Trek universe (including warp travel) is possible. "


lol, warp travel in the way they discribe is actually an impossibility. First you have a magical "warp field" that is supposed to reduce the whole mass of the starship. Secondly they are generating, in real time, anti-matter. Everything we do to gain energy harnesses matter. At 100% efficancy you will be able to convert every single tiny bit of the energy that matter is made up of, and use it as power. So to make 1 unit of anti-matter and 1 unit of matter (remember they never specify a fuel source merely the spontainous generation of matter and anti-matter) you would be using exactly the same amout of energy as a 100% efficant release of energy. So the ultimate you can achive is the constant making and breaking of both anti-matter and matter. The only point at which anti-matter would ever be useful, is to have massive reactors on earth or somewhere else, making it, and allowing ships to refuel with it.

So you make 1 unit of matter and 1 unit of anti-matter with 2 units of energy, then smash them together and get 2 units of energy, which is required to make 1 unit of matter and 1 unit of anti-matter.

The warping of space is possible I'm given to understand, using very, very powerful magnetic fields. So that bit is true, theoretically. But as you approch the speed of light, the ship mass goes up and up and up, meaning more and more and more energy is required. According to relitivity this means infinant energy is required to achive the speed of light.

The only way I can think of getting a ship to travel at faster-than-light-speeds is to make matter emulate the photon, no one really knows what it is, it's both a wave form and a particle, suggesting perhaps that there is a thrid state of matter between the two. Of cause what a human and ship would look like after undergoing transformation is the question. I think the best you could hope for, is to have two very large stations, one that converts and sends, and one that receives and converts.

So no, Star Trek may have predicted things like PDA's and mobile telephones (which by the way don't have anything like the power requred to reach a ship in orbit, only the closet repeater tower) and may predict other things in the future. But it is just fiction. For instance their usage of the word Tachyon, which is a threortical particle that exists in the water around at nuclear reactor. It sounds impressive but might not even exist. All the stuff they say sounds feaisable because it's moderately good writing, but at the end of the day, star trek is merely fiction, and should be treated as such.

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