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Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 23rd Nov 2006 22:12
The thanksgiving thread gave me an odd idea. If there were a "Programmers day" or "Game makers Day" as a world wide holiday what sort of traditions do you think it would encompass?

I say the holiday meal is Cold Pizza and Jolt Cola.

anyone want to add to the "holiday traditions"?

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Posted: 23rd Nov 2006 22:38
And it has to be 24 hours of programming. Not programming anything we're working on now but a totally new program just for the holiday. If the person celebrating "Programming Day" knows other people that program they get together as a group to make the game.
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Posted: 23rd Nov 2006 23:24
Are there really that many programmers in the world to warrent a holiday? o.O

If so i want presents!

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 00:01
As a tradition, everybody such dress like a ner...technician and drink non alcoholic bear and cower from the outside world and watching the entire Star Wars series and programming until 4 am...Man can't wait

"Cut down the gods if they stand in your way" - Hakamoto Tsunetomo
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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 00:05
I just had a thought that it should be called "Coder Day" because people that judge if a TV show stays or goes are also called programmers.

I did a search for "coder holiday" and ran across an interesting site where people "rent" us. They're a service that holds onto the money from the client till you produce a program or just answer a coding question.

2RentACoder:
http://www.2rentacoder.com/RentACoder/default.asp
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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 00:07
I think if there's a programmers day, the main thing that should happen is all programmers get the day off

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 01:15
Perhaps we could all sit around a fireplace screensaver roasting virtual chestnuts.

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 01:44
Quote: " say the holiday meal is Cold Pizza and Jolt Cola."


cold turkey and jolt! Now i just gotta find a store that sells jolt.

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 02:10
No no no, not Jolt.

BAWLS. Best dang drink in the universe.

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 02:22
Isn't this what the TGC convention is for?
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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 02:32
It should also be a tradition to drink coca cola black....coffe and coca cola together....an all-nighters dream!

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 03:08
Everybody bathes in redbull for 3 hours when the clock strikes 12. Shortly after, we all gather in the woods in world of warcraft atire, whilst throwing yellow-paper origami and salt at each other, yelling "lightning bolt!" and "blinding powder!" the entire time.

After that, its all out rage as every programmer in the world gets on counter strike.

</awesomeness>

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 03:17
Quote: "Everybody bathes in redbull for 3 hours when the clock strikes 12. Shortly after, we all gather in the woods in world of warcraft atire, whilst throwing yellow-paper origami and salt at each other, yelling "lightning bolt!" and "blinding powder!" the entire time."


All the while reciting The Holy Grail line for line.

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 03:20
Anybody that uses the word "goto" on that day gets walnuts thrown at them.
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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 03:55
If anything it should be a holiday from programming.

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 07:28
yes, I need a holiday. Might take a day off in 2007, or maybe 2008

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 10:17 Edited at: 24th Nov 2006 10:23
Somehow i doubt we would be programmers if we DID want a day off.

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Hobgoblin Lord
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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 15:14
Quote: "So you want a day off. Let's take a look at what you are asking for.

There are 365 days per year available for work.

There are 52 weeks per year in which you already have 2 days off per week, leaving 261 days available for work.

Since you spend 16 hours each day away fron work, you have used up 170 days, leaving only 91 days available.

You spend 30 minutes each day on coffee break which counts for 23 days each year, leaving only 68 days available.

With a 1 hour lunch each day, you used up another 46 days, leaving only 22 days available for work.

You normally spend 2 days per year on sick leave.

This leaves you only 20 days per year available for work.

We are off 5 holidays per year, so your available working time is down to 15 days.

We generously give 14 days vacation per year which leaves only 1 day available for work.

There's no way I'll let you take that day off!"


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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 16:25
Quote: "Somehow i doubt we would be programmers if we DID want a day off."


?

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 16:36
@ Hobgoblin Lord

Thats very funny but me thinks your logics flawed somewhere cus that cant be right.

@ Kentaree

We love our jobs, hence why we do them and no one else does.

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 16:37
I disagree, I love my job, but I could damn well do with a holiday

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 18:18
Quote: "Somehow i doubt we would be programmers if we DID want a day off."




So an accountant that loves his job would never take a day off either?

Sorry, but that's the funniest things I've read on here in a few days

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 18:24
Yeah, today is one of those days I wish I did work from home so I could go home to bed

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 18:36
Cant take a joke Jeku?

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Posted: 24th Nov 2006 18:44
I think the smiley clarified a lot of things

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Posted: 25th Nov 2006 02:12
I thought it made it critical... o.O

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Posted: 25th Nov 2006 04:58 Edited at: 25th Nov 2006 04:59
@Hobgoblin Lord,
I've seen that before, but there are some very serious errors with it.

First, the coffee breaks would only account for 5.4 days, not 23. The lunch break is already taken care of by your 16 hours off each day. Even then, an hour for each of the 261 days you work only adds up to 10.875 days (261/24), not 46. That's just what I see as the most obvious errors there. I think whoever thought that up failed their math class.

I love my job(s), but having a day off now and then really helps to keep your mind clear.

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Posted: 25th Nov 2006 05:48
Hyrichter, of course it is full of errors and "fuzzy math" everything is computed using all 365 days and hours already creditied somewhere else.

example the coffee breaks (30*365)=10950 minutes=182.5 hours=22.8 (8 hour work days)

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Posted: 25th Nov 2006 21:43
How many of us "slave" in front of a computer at work only to come home and "enjoy" being on the computer?

Using computers isn't work or play... it's a way of life. A programmers holiday must involve the computer.
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Posted: 25th Nov 2006 22:35
Quote: "So you want a day off. Let's take a look at what you are asking for.

There are 365 days per year available for work.

There are 52 weeks per year in which you already have 2 days off per week, leaving 261 days available for work.

Since you spend 16 hours each day away fron work, you have used up 170 days, leaving only 91 days available.

You spend 30 minutes each day on coffee break which counts for 23 days each year, leaving only 68 days available.

With a 1 hour lunch each day, you used up another 46 days, leaving only 22 days available for work.

You normally spend 2 days per year on sick leave.

This leaves you only 20 days per year available for work.

We are off 5 holidays per year, so your available working time is down to 15 days.

We generously give 14 days vacation per year which leaves only 1 day available for work.

There's no way I'll let you take that day off!""


I think that's off somewhere, let me try it myself...

Quote: "There are 365 days per year available for work."

yes

Quote: "
There are 52 weeks per year in which you already have 2 days off per week, leaving 261 days available for work."

yes

Quote: "Since you spend 16 hours each day away fron work, you have used up 170 days, leaving only 91 days available."

most don't spend sixteen, if you work from 8 to 5, so let's say 15 away, so that's 160 days, leaving you with 101

Quote: "You spend 30 minutes each day on coffee break which counts for 23 days each year, leaving only 68 days available."

Umm...I have no idea how they got that, 30 minutes a day, so (.5 hours)(261 days)/24 hours = 5.4375 days. Maybe I did it wrong, but I don't think so . So that leaves you with 95 days.

Quote: "With a 1 hour lunch each day, you used up another 46 days, leaving only 22 days available for work."

again don't know how they got that, because. (1 hour)(261 days)/24 hours = 10.875 days. 85 days.

Quote: "You normally spend 2 days per year on sick leave."

so 83 days

Quote: "We are off 5 holidays per year, so your available working time is down to 15 days."

so 78 days

Quote: "We generously give 14 days vacation per year which leaves only 1 day available for work."

and most don't use all of them every year, but still about 65 days.

And that means 65 straight days, as in 24 hours each day, working, so it's about 1500 hours a year. Sorry just felt like checking those numbers out .

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Quote: "How many of us "slave" in front of a computer at work only to come home and "enjoy" being on the computer?

Using computers isn't work or play... it's a way of life. A programmers holiday must involve the computer."

Agreed
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...Computers are NOT a way of life. Atleast not for me. I am on the computer at work. Then 2 hours at home (mainly playing games), then off I go talking to friends.

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I disagree, computers are a way of life for some people, like me for instance, i spend nearly every hour of the day at a computer and when I’m not at one, I’m on my way to one or doing a short minor activity that a computer either isn’t needed for or hasn’t been invented for yet. Such as one that controls the toilet and one that can feed me. Also I wouldn’t be against such machines, i wanna be a freaking machine personally but that’s just me. On a more general scale, computers are a way of life because some people’s lives are based entirely around computers in the same way some peoples lives are based entirely around music or sports.

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Making computers a way of life is unhealthy, I'd get some other hobbies that don't involve computers, heck some that get you out of the house, it will do you good, I mean my sister has computers as her way of life, it does her no good, for one thing she is addicted, and like anything you become addicted to being away from it effects your moods terribly, same happens with anything you spend too much time enjoying with.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2006 20:20
Quote: "I'd get some other hobbies that don't involve computers,"


You assume I or others do not?

Quote: "I mean my sister has computers as her way of life, it does her no good, for one thing she is addicted,"


I wonder if she agrees with your analysis because people have said the same of me but others have disagreed, myself included.

Quote: "like anything you become addicted to being away from it effects your moods terribly, same happens with anything you spend too much time enjoying with."


Sounds a bit generalized to me. I do things all the time which I enjoy but which I can drop at any time, going to the Gym for example. I am addicted to Adrenaline and love running but it doesn’t mean I run every day and get moody if I don’t. Same with TV, I used to watch it all the time but I stopped at soon as I got to uni and not just because I didn’t have Sky anymore because I could have bought box sets but didn’t, I just switched to new tasks.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2006 20:29
Quote: "You assume I or others do not?"


Yes. You said, and I quote:

Quote: "like me for instance, i spend nearly every hour of the day at a computer and when I’m not at one, I’m on my way to one or doing a short minor activity that a computer either isn’t needed for or hasn’t been invented for yet."


Sounds to me like you don't have other hobbies, which generally isn't a good idea.

I was like that too, when I was in school, and I regret it heavily now because in a way it has carried over. I program all day at work, come home and program and/or play video games. The weekend is the only time for me to get away, and 50% of the time I'm at home on the computer again. It's not a healthy lifestyle--- I'm glad I have a high metabolism, that's for sure

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As Jeku just pointed out, you just contradicted yourself, how can you spend all most every hour of the day on the computer and go to the gym regularly? And well when you do something far too much, you do become so addicted you depend on doing it, hence negative moods.

Some of the time I do believe I spend too much time on my computer, I even thought sacrifice all of my PC hobbies and use it for games only, come to think of it I'm still considering it.

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If computers are a way of life to people I feel sorry for them. The old saying goes "an day of computer play, makes sure the chicks will stay away!"

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I grew up around computers so I have no idea what it's like without one.

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If being off the computer is "normal" it's a foreign concept to me... oh wait I do sleep... does that count?
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Quote: "The old saying goes "an day of computer play, makes sure the chicks will stay away!""


Not necessarily, but then those kind of girls will tell you not to use a static void but a private and end up calling you dumb.

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lol, I am not sure If I can manage that ego burn=P I'd be fine without a girl in that case.

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Quote: "Not necessarily, but then those kind of girls will tell you not to use a static void but a private and end up calling you dumb."


Chances are I’m going to end up marrying that type of girl you know.

Quote: "As Jeku just pointed out, you just contradicted yourself, how can you spend all most every hour of the day on the computer and go to the gym regularly? And well when you do something far too much, you do become so addicted you depend on doing it, hence negative moods."


Because I wake up, turn my PC on, check a whole bunch of links I have in FF using right-click > open in tabs (this forum being one of them) then get changed, go to uni where I’m in a computer lab for an unhealthy 8 hours straight, not even braking for lunch most days, and then I’m off home where asides from cooking (when I’m listening to my iPod ill have ya know) or showering, going to the toilet etc I’m right where I am now, in front of my laptop. The only exception to this routine is that every other day I spend three hours in the gym lifting weights and twice a week running for about three hours. Hence I go to the gym regularly and spend most waking hours on my PC, I guess to make it exceptionally clear I would need to have put the word except in there.

Also I don’t depend on my computer usage, its just my life’s not got a lot of point to it otherwise considering I am doing computers at university, I am a programming and I’m aiming to be a computer game designer...I suppose I could use pen and paper to plan my games and that but why use a rock to cut meat when I have a knife?

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Maybe that is so, but we only had to go on what you said, and that lead me to offer that piece of advice about not sticking to a computer all you life, at that point how was I to know you do other things as you gave us this piece of info:

Quote: "I disagree, computers are a way of life for some people, like me for instance, i spend nearly every hour of the day at a computer and when I’m not at one, I’m on my way to one or doing a short minor activity that a computer either isn’t needed for or hasn’t been invented for yet. Such as one that controls the toilet and one that can feed me. Also I wouldn’t be against such machines, i wanna be a freaking machine personally but that’s just me. On a more general scale, computers are a way of life because some people’s lives are based entirely around computers in the same way some peoples lives are based entirely around music or sports."


-Spend nearly every hour of the day
-When not on computer on my way to or doing a 'short minor activity that computers haven't been invented yet, such as control toilets or can feed me'

That means to anyone reading that, 'I'm on the computer at every single chance I get' sign of an unhealthy addict, hence my point of advice, this new piece of info about doing sports a gym work a lot contradicts that. Hey man just don't say two things about yourself that are contradictory, it kind of weakens any point your making.

Quote: "Chances are I’m going to end up marrying that type of girl you know."


Sounds like you have an eye on someone in your computer class at uni Mind you a lot of girls are like the one I mentioned, just replace the static void stuff with something else, like I don't know anything you'll ever claim to know in your life

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OK, I do a lot of things each freaking day, I can barely keep up with what I’m meant to be doing right now, let alone what I did for five minuets yesterday. >.<

Quote: "Sounds like you have an eye on someone in your computer class at uni Mind you a lot of girls are like the one I mentioned, just replace the static void stuff with something else, like I don't know anything you'll ever claim to know in your life "


I wish, as far as I know, these girls don’t exist, not programming ones anyway...really annoys me that...and smokers, they really annoy me cus most are very good looking and friendly but I will not ever date a smoker...not even when she's stunning and asking me out...grrr. >.<

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Dude, you can't say no to some one because they smoke, go out with them and figure that problem out, I mean if you like them, the unpleasantries can be figured out It doesn't matter as long as you like each other.

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I don't think it's the computer itself thats addictive it's what's you're doing on it. People can be Game Addicts, Porn Addicts, MySpace Addicts, EBay Addicts, Chatroom Addicts, Wiki Addicts, and even Forum Addicts (nobody here of course ).
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Quote: "Dude, you can't say no to some one because they smoke, go out with them and figure that problem out, I mean if you like them, the unpleasantries can be figured out It doesn't matter as long as you like each other."


It’s tantamount to suicide from my world view, very complex issue with me and I would rather not go into it. Are you ever going to read something I post and agree with me?

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Its your business and I'll leave it there.

Quote: "Are you ever going to read something I post and agree with me?"


lol, I guess not...wait bugger I agreed, I think this is a start of a *sniff* sorry I've got a cold, of a beautiful relationship

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Quote: "Its your business and I'll leave it there."


Gudgud, might have a posting on it in me journal at some point on me website (see sig) so check there sometime.

Quote: "lol, I guess not...wait bugger I agreed, I think this is a start of a *sniff* sorry I've got a cold, of a beautiful relationship"


I hate you.

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You wouldn't be the first.

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