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DarkBASIC Professional Discussion / VB 6.0 and DLL's

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Ninja
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Is it possible to write DLL's in Visual Basic 6.0 that will work in DarkBasic Pro? I am currently playing with the demo version right now, and if this is possible I will definitely buy this product.

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Hubdule
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Posted: 16th Oct 2002 09:44
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Currently it's not possible to use VB6 DLLs natively in DBPro because VB6 produces ActiveX DLL's only. DBPro currently supports standard windows DLL's but not ActiveX. Maybe it get's implemented later ?

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Ninja
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I would have to say that it's a big oversight on Microsoft's part to not make VB 6 capable of creating standard Win dll's. It would be very awesome if the DBPro team could figure out a way to integrate the GUI power of VB6 with their product. VB6 has a lot more interfacing power, because it includes the standard UI components like text components, combo boxes, etc... I find it very difficult to write professional quaility text components in DBPro. It's amazing how something as simple as a text field requires keyboard type rate, editing, mouse selection, etc... And all of that would be free if we could integrate VB6 Gui's...

I guess I could also learn VC++ -- but I don't want to.

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Blue Sonic
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Sorry to be thick but what exectly is the difference between Standard Win dlls and ActiveX dlls?

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exLRT
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You're not obliged to learn VC++...you may prefrer learning Delphi!!!

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Ratty Rat
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To Ninja - I don`t really think this was an oversight, VB was never (originally) intended to have any low level capabilities (before V4, or possibly 5, it did not even have a proper compiler, it just constructed p-code, which ran through a VB interpreter).
VB is not very fast (certainly compared with C/C++), part of the reason for wanting to write DLL`s for DB is to be able to process data faster than you could in DB code (otherwise you`d write them in DB). VB DLL`s are unlikely to be much, if any, faster than writing the function in DB.

VB has had so much 'tagged on' to it over the years that MicroSoft decided to re-write it from scratch for VB.Net, unfortunately it sounds like they messed it up, from the opinion of most VB users anyway.
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Ninja
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The sad thing is, I'm not looking to make DLL's to process data -- I want to make simple GUI's for getting information from users, such as settings and such.

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The One Ring
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You could use VB to make GUIs for getting settings and such. You could then save your setting to be read by your DBP program.

If you really want to use DLLs and have GUI interfaces in them, might I suggest Delphi.

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Ninja - Ah yes, that would be useful, its so easy to do those sort of interfaces in VB (well, that was what it was created for).

The One Ring - Do you have experience of Visual C++? As I`m new to both I want to know whether Delphi would get me results quicker than C++, in your opinion.
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The One Ring
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Yes. I have experience in both C++ and Delphi. For most GUI related operations Delphi produces the quickest results. C++ is certianly a most powerful language, but for results in a hurry, Delphi is hard to beat.

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Thanks!
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GCEclipse
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You can also use Dlls made in PureBasic. I just thought I'd mention because its a little easier to learn than C++ and Delphi if you're used to BASIC languages.

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MushroomHead
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Use a wrapper to access VB using COM objects .. here's an example I posted :-

http://www.realgametools.net/forums/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=8247

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