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GMan
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Posted: 16th Feb 2007 04:32 Edited at: 16th Feb 2007 04:34
Sorry to post this here, but I was looking at the website:
http://www.superstringtheory.com/

and I cannot access the forum. No matter what I do, could some people from here please test it out and let me know if others are having the same problem or not? It will take 5seconds to check. Thank you.

Also, I have tried firefox and IE, and I have even turned the security as low as it will possibly go on both and it won't work. I know the forums are active because I have actually had the same problem with that website for about a year now, and I have seen other websites actually commenting on that forum, I just need to know why I can't use it.

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Saikoro
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Posted: 16th Feb 2007 05:33
Have you, you know, asked them?


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spooky
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Posted: 16th Feb 2007 11:33
Does not work in any browser from my machine.

Error I get;

Quote: "Oops... someone made a mistake!
Ooops, an error occurred on page index.jsp

The exception was: org.apache.commons.dbcp.DbcpException: java.sql.SQLException: Unable to connect to any hosts due to exception: java.security.AccessControlException: access denied (java.net.SocketPermission localhost resolve)
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Grog Grueslayer
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Posted: 16th Feb 2007 21:50
Works fine for me using Firefox.

Screwed Over
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Posted: 16th Feb 2007 22:19
they have some sorta sql mistake or sumthing, and does anyone here know what string theory is? i do !


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Grog Grueslayer
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Posted: 16th Feb 2007 22:27
I do because I love Star Trek.

I was disappointed when I discovered this thread wasn't a string theory question.

Kaurotu
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Posted: 16th Feb 2007 22:43
The Elegant Universe is a great book on ths topic. The one I read was my dad's so everytime I read it I have to have him tell me what's going on!


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Osiris
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Posted: 16th Feb 2007 23:43
Oooh, string theory is awesome, although the strings are so very tiny.

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Zotoaster
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Posted: 17th Feb 2007 01:41
Really? I heard the had no ends, so they were infinitelly long and/or were in a loop... I also heard that when they vibrate they create matter - Personally, I want a guitar like that - Maybe someday.. yeah that's all I know lol.

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Posted: 17th Feb 2007 06:44
They are like rubber bands, and depending on what frequency they are vibrating at it will create certain matter IE: 22Hz is Gold(I have no idea if it really is, just saying).

Also, if you were to blow an atom nucleus up to the size of the solar system one string would be the size of a tree.



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Posted: 17th Feb 2007 16:58
works fine in Safari.

There's been a few good discussions about string theory on physicsforums.com.
Hah, I just logged into those forums, I can't remember how long ago I made my account by it said my password expired over 1000 days ago since my last login.

GMan
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Posted: 27th Feb 2007 01:43
Sorry it's been so long since I responded. But I don't know what's wrong I can't open the forum so I guess I'll just go to physicsforum.com instead, looks like a good place.

and Sorry to dissapoint you Grog, lol.

So to those of you who would like to discuss string theory I have sort of a question on it.

I'm confused about the 6 extra curled up dimensions in that they are always portrayed like this:
http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~mbw/astro18200/calabi-yau-grid-small.jpg

But according to that picture it seems there are multiple "extra" dimensions, and that if you move to a different location in 3D space you are in a "new" Calabi-Yau dimension. Well, the problem is that it was always my understanding that dimensions were independant of motion in one another, so wouldn't there just be ONE and only one like this:
http://people.cs.uchicago.edu/~mbw/astro18200/calabi-yau-space3.jpg

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Glorfon
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Posted: 27th Feb 2007 03:50
I have only a vauge grasp on quantum physics, and an even looser grasp on string theorey but I have two point to make about your explinations about it.
1. When the strings vibrate they don't really "make" matter, because matter can not be created or destroyed. Mater is composed of strings but strings don't "make" matter but I supose that's really just splitting hairs.
2. Secondly for the different vibrations to specify the element doesn't make any sense. The element is determened by the amount of protons. The particle type(Positron, proton, nuetron, anti-proton, electron, anti-nuetron) is detemined by the quarks that it is composed of. There are 6 quarks I believe. So I think what they meant was that the vibrations of the strings determines the quark type. But I'm not sure. To review Compound-Molecule-Atom-Particle-Quark-String.

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GMan
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Posted: 27th Feb 2007 05:23 Edited at: 22nd Jun 2007 04:34
You are mostly correct.
Although I'm sure this is not what osiris meant, I will clarify. This point actually addresses both of the statements you made above:

You are correct in saying the string determines the type of quark(yes there are 6 quarks, "up and down, charm and strange, top and bottom" 12 if you count their anti-matter pairs). However ALL strings are the SAME and EVERYTHING from matter to light to even force is made of strings (according to string theory). So matter is "created" (using the word loosely) by a string vibrating. There are vibrational patterns that result in 0 mass such as the theoretical graviton, and possibly the neutrino. The only difference between, say matter and force is simply the pattern in which the string vibrates.

I would also just like to add that of the particles you mentioned above only the proton and neutron are made of quarks. The rest are elementary. UP quarks have a charge of 2/3 while DOWN quarks have a charge of -1/3. a proton is composed of 2up and 1down quark so:
2/3 + 2/3 - 1/3 = 1
and a neutron is the opposite, 1up and 2down
-1/3 - 1/3 + 2/3 = 0
note: the fractional charges of the quark are based on the strength of the elctron charge, which relatively is one, which is why the protons charge cancels the elctron.

NOTE: the other quarks are the same as first two. up charm top quarks have charges 2/3 while down strange bottom quarks have charge -1/3. The only difference in the families is they get progressively more massive.

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