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Darth Vader
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Posted: 19th Feb 2007 04:46 Edited at: 22nd Feb 2007 02:50
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Oh yeah I found a place that had 4 left so I put one on hold and rushed out to grab it!

I've had it for 2 days now and Its super! Nintendo are right when they say this will get the whole family playing games. My Mum you doesn't play computer games sat there watching and marvelling at the way the Wii responded to my movments when I was bowling. Whe I offered Her a turn She said "No, I prefer the real thing." Next day Mums had about 7 turns and wants more! Dad loves the golf and I spent most of my time creating Mii's for the family (And were like 11 of us)! I tell you what the Wii has got everyone spell bound!

I liked the way Nintendo packed it up into the box, except that I can't re-pack it! I was also amazed and stunned at the soze of the Wii, I thought it was a lot bigger and at first I was dissapointed in the size of it! I know thats lame! But now I love the size! I can't wait to get it connected to the internet through my USB WiFi connecter (The Nintendo one).

I have also got my first 'mod' for it. I have hitched it up to my laptop! So I don't need the television all the time! I use the Belkin USB VideoBus II to connect the Video and Left and Right Sound to the computer, then I go into Sony Vegas 7 and Capture Video. It shows me the preview! At first the Quality was Yuck! And I though it was because of the USB being to slow! But then I realised that Vegas 7 was configuerd for NTSC so when I changed it to PAL it was all corrected! It works like a breeze, except for 2 issues

1. I can't get it to go full screen!

Apart from that Its great!

I can't wait for Mario Party 8, Mario Karts anf FIFA! I am going to see if I can find Wario Smooth Moves cause that looks like a great game!
I can't wait to get more game for it!
Star Wars games especially! Imagine, a Lightsaber witht the remote...


PS Also I don't know if I've got a faulty Wrist Strap is there pictures anywere that I could compare mine to?

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Posted: 19th Feb 2007 04:59
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wii is so overrated, i was bored with it within the hour.

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Posted: 19th Feb 2007 05:05
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Quote: "wii is so overrated, i was bored with it within the hour."

I don't see how!

Also I was told that you couldn't save your virtual consol games to your SD but you can which is great!


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Posted: 19th Feb 2007 05:09
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Wii was awesome, can't wait until they make more/better games for it

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Posted: 19th Feb 2007 05:11
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Quote: "wii is so overrated, i was bored with it within the hour."
You must have a very short attention span or no friends... because I can't see how you could get bored so quickly... My friends and family played wii sports practically all day when I got one... Even now after a night out at the pub everyone wants to come back and play more...


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Posted: 19th Feb 2007 05:20 Edited at: 19th Feb 2007 05:25
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While I admit the Wii can be fun at times, I own one myself and love it, at times it can also be a tedious and tiresome system, contrary to a previous review of mine when the console was relatively new in my household.

As with the PS3 there's a severe lack of good titles at the moment. The Legend of Zelda is there, as well as Wario Ware, but many of the others can't really hold a candle to those two. In fact, I recently sold five of eight games I bought for the Wii because they simply weren't quite as fun as they were hyped up to be, and I'm considering selling a sixth (Rayman Raving Rabbids).

Another downside to the Wii is the fact that after a long day at work, it's the last game console you'll want to touch, period. The last thing most people want to do after work is have a work out playing a game. The fact that it's backwards compatible with GameCube titles (and the VC games, which in my opinion cost more than they're worth) do ease this problem a bit.

Last, but not least, there won't be a third party Wiimote Charger for another month, and the Wiimotes like to suck up battery-life horribly. It's like Nintendo is apologizing to all of the major battery companies for the Game Boy Advance SP's and Nintendo DS's rechargeable batteries.

But with that, launches for consoles are generally slow like that, so things may change for the better.

Also, on the note of your faulty Wiimote Strap, you can just go to Nintendo's website and order four replacement straps for nada. They only ask for the Serial Number of your Wii. Better to be safe than sorry, right?

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I played the sports with some friends, and it was just boring. Plus, the actual movements picked up by the wiimote are too limited, specifically the boxing game. Oh, and graphics sucked, but I understand the sports was more of a demo disc. Personally, I'd rather get off my couch and play real sports than move my arms around like a dufus sitting in front of a tv.

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Quote: "Also, on the note of your faulty Wiimote Strap, you can just go to Nintendo's website and order four replacement straps for nada. They only ask for the Serial Number of your Wii. Better to be safe than sorry, right?"

Is that just for America or can I do that here in AUS?


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Well, I'm just waiting for some new good Wii titles to be released, more importantly Mario Galaxy. I find I spend most of the time playing VC games, and then going to my 360 to play NHL or the Crackdown demo.

However, my 360 just gave me the three red rings of death, which means it's a brick and needs to be replaced, so looks like I'll be playing a lot more Wii.

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I think the Wii is not as good as i hoped,i had hoped you had to do the full movement before it appears on the screen,but you only have to move the controller up and down to kill someone in Mortal Combat...

So yea,its kinda overrated to me.(I didnt even like LOZ,Twilight Princess...because the Wii mote moves were too simple...)

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However, my 360 just gave me the three red rings of death, which means it's a brick and needs to be replaced, so looks like I'll be playing a lot more Wii.
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That sucks, it happened to me as well. If they try to charge you money for the replacement I strongly suggest trying to talk to a supervisor. In my case they cut the price in half and I know some people that got it done for free.


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Posted: 19th Feb 2007 18:13 Edited at: 19th Feb 2007 18:14
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Quote: "Also I was told that you couldn't save your virtual consol games to your SD but you can which is great!"


Err, how? Please provide a link to a site or something that shows you how to do this. I had a 1GB SD card in my Wii and there was simply no way at all to put the VC games on there and *still be able to play them*. Did they fix this in a recent update?

Quote: "Another downside to the Wii is the fact that after a long day at work, it's the last game console you'll want to touch, period."


This is the EXACT reason I sold mine and bought a 360! Not that the quite poor graphics quality helped much. Having said that, SSX Blur DOES look great on the Wii, but ironically no better than the previous SSX games do on the Gamecube. The 360 *really* needs an SSX game too imho

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The wii is really weak in graphics, there was way too much hype about them. I think Nintendo should have kept it back to work on the graphics power, because we all know the games for the wii look like the PS1 graphics, besides a very select few.

Maybe we might ger lucky and Nintendo will release an upgrade kit for the graphics.
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Posted: 19th Feb 2007 19:31 Edited at: 19th Feb 2007 19:44
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I can't wait until I get the Wii. The graphics look so real, the remote looks like fun and the long awaited Super Mario 128 is coming out, I've heard it's just as perfect as SM64. That was the greatest video game I've ever played, I can't believe it took them 10 years before they made the sequal.

All I cared was that they focus more on graphics than gameplay, they definitly got gameplay right with the remote and the graphics still look exactly like real life. I just hope they remembered to put trilinear filtering in, the DS was filled with pixelated textures, yuck.

Anyone seen previes for Super Mario Galaxy? How fun does it look?

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Quote: "Well, I'm just waiting for some new good Wii titles to be released, more importantly Mario Galaxy. "


It's not released yet? Oh, I heard it was the launch title. I'm confused.

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Quote: "I can't wait until I get the Wii. The graphics look so real, the remote looks like fun and the long awaited Super Mario 128 is coming out, I've heard it's just as perfect as SM64. That was the greatest video game I've ever played, I can't believe it took them 10 years before they made the sequal.

All I cared was that they focus more on graphics than gameplay, they definitly got gameplay right with the remote and the graphics still look exactly like real life. I just hope they remembered to put trilinear filtering in, the DS was filled with pixelated textures, yuck.

Anyone have Super Mario Galaxy? How fun is it?"


Anyone HAVE it? Are you JOKING? GRAPHICS? REAL? ARE YOU ON DRUGS?




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Quote: "The graphics look so real"


Urm, no they dont. I have a wii, I should know. The graphics are about as good as the PS1. Also to add, the wii lags, unlike any other console ive used. Ive played red steel and call of duty 3 on the wii and both lagged in areas of the game.
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Quote: "GRAPHICS? REAL? ARE YOU ON DRUGS?"


Look at the sky, are you saying it doesn't look realistic?



And look at the way the light shines on Mario and Pikachu, looks almost raytraced.



If you're one of those people who'd play a game whose graphics are better than gameplay, remember you're talking to some who

1) DOESN't even have the Wii, only looks at previews and screenshots. (Previews are usually rendered at higher resolutions)

2) hates Microsoft so much that he doesn't play Xbox 360, which is supposed to have really good graphics.

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Posted: 19th Feb 2007 19:58 Edited at: 19th Feb 2007 20:03
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Look at Snake's shoulder. No next-gen console should suffer with low poly models like that. I bought just a Wiimote and use it with my PC. That way, HD and a revolutionary controller are both in my hands. The 360 probably is pretty powerful; but all the games I've played on the ONE working system out of Stafford's FOUR (the others give three rings of death) are quite pitiful, actually. Maybe if the games didn't blow their graphics potential on 1080p, which, to be honest is hard to discern from 480p unless you're using an electron microscope, there would be some decent graphics. This console is fast; why am I driving through a flat, four sided, square tunnel on PGR3? Why does Chromehounds have such pathetic terrain detail and draw distance yet STILL cannot get past 30FPS?


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Posted: 19th Feb 2007 20:01
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Quote: "I can't wait until I get the Wii. The graphics look so real, the remote looks like fun and the long awaited Super Mario 128 is coming out, I've heard it's just as perfect as SM64. That was the greatest video game I've ever played, I can't believe it took them 10 years before they made the sequal."


I'm seriously hoping you just forgot to add some <sarcasm> tags around all of that.

If not, you're in for a massive disappointment.

BTW it didn't take them 10 years to make a sequel. Mario Sunshine was a true, if slightly odd, sequel.

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Well, Mario 128 I think was the name for the true sequal. It had something to do with Super Mario Sunshine not having the newness that Mario 64 had, and they wanted to release a third 3D adventure that had more newness in it like the original.

Wikipedia has lots of info on it, here's what I found.

Quote: "Super Mario Sunshine was fully unveiled as the next Mario game; it was released in July 2002 in Japan, and a month later in North America. It was very similar to Super Mario 64, and not the "different" game Miyamoto had spoken of before. Many people believed Mario 128 turned out to be Mario Sunshine, and discussion of Mario 128 had subsided."


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Q: Mario 128 will be released for Revolution, then?

MIYAMOTO: Yes, of course! It's no surprise, but, of course, we will rename it. That won't be the only surprise of next year, though. We based the Revolution around this new type of game. Mario 128 played a large role in the Revolution's conception, much like Mario 64 in its time. But we won't just be focusing on Mario. We're working on some very impressive games which push interactivity to the max—games of a new era
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Quote: "Mario Sunshine was a true, if slightly odd, sequel."


And a pretty good game too... don't know some people knock it so much. I really like the vividness throughout and the whole look of Delphino Island.

Of course it wasn't a massive leap fwd like Mario64... but very few things, if any, really are.

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I played SM64DS and it was fun. I finished it.
I played SMS and it was not fun. I got bored three levels in.


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Quote: "Look at the sky, are you saying it doesn't look realistic?"


I think a Dreamcast looked better than those screenshots.

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And, not to mention that all they need do is load a 256x256 texture and fit it to one cleverly made triangle to satisfy that image?


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I think some people are being a bit simple when it comes to the graphical prowess of the Wii (or apparant lack of).

It doesn't have ps1 quality graphics - that's a ridiculous thing to say. When Resident Evil 4 was released on GameCube everyone was harping on about how great it looked. The Wii is more powerful than the GameCube so how does this equate to crappy graphics? The graphics will be/are better than GameCube so if they were brilliant back then why won't they be great now?

Just because it (arguably) isn't as good as the ps3 and xbox 360 in this department doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't hold its own.
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Hey don't get me mixed up here! I may be a Nintendo Gameboy but I do like the Xbox 360! I haven't got one but what I've seen of it is pretty cool! If the port Linux over to it I'm going to get one and put Wine on it!

The only thing I will say is that you all sound like Graphics gamers here lol! You do care about gameplay right? lol, I know Nintendo have hardly any game for the Wii at the moment (Or hardly any good games) But remember the 360 has been out for about a year? (Not sure) And the Wii has only been out for a few months! I think wii (lol) need to give it a bit of time and then good games will come for it!
It think most of you would agree thought that the PS3 looks like it isn't going to do good! I mean with that price that's the first of many turn offs!

Quote: "Err, how? Please provide a link to a site or something that shows you how to do this. I had a 1GB SD card in my Wii and there was simply no way at all to put the VC games on there and *still be able to play them*. Did they fix this in a recent update?"

Lol Rich it was you who I heard it from! But I never said you could play the games off the SD card I said you could *store* them. It says so in the manual.


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Quote: "And, not to mention that all they need do is load a 256x256 texture and fit it to one cleverly made triangle to satisfy that image?"


Yep, that's all they had to do. Graphic details in games come from the texture, not the polys.

Quote: "Look at Snake's shoulder. No next-gen console should suffer with low poly models like that."


If you are annoyed (or even notice) a few out of place pixels, you've got a problem. Who cares how many poly are in a shoulder, really? You're not ever going to see ridges like that in a game, because 1) you'd be too busy playing, and 2) the person's idle animation would be playing if you were looking at him, and good luck finding out of place pixels within 1/10 of a second before his arm moves. Besides, it's a game model, that's what it's supposed to look like.

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Quote: "2) the person's idle animation would be playing if you were looking at him, and good luck finding out of place pixels within 1/10 of a second before his arm moves."


If in 1/10th of a second a models arm moves enough to hide the lack of polygons in just the idle animation, they must have thought said model would be perfect with poor, very fast animations

With animations like that, you'd wonder if the designers wanted to make everything look like they were sugar high

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Duke Nukem (PS1):



GT Pro Series (WII):



GT Pro Series doesnt look all that better than duke nukem. I have this game for the wii and the car and level textures must be around 128x128, they really do nothing for a next gen console. The wii might as well had been a PS1 with a fancy case.

EDIT: Oh yeah, if the wii didnt use shaders, then the games would look like a ps1 game.
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You guys are basing the Wii on the worst looking games, people Zelda looks great to me.

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Exactly, you're using one of the worst games for the console, one that was rushed out at launch, as a basis for the graphical capabilities of the machine.
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I used to be a very pro-wii guy but now, who gives a crap? I'd still most likely buy a wii just for some titles that i want to play(like metriod prime 3!) but i would play a 360 if i had one and i would play a PS3 if I had one(which I won't).

Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing has to be the most awesome game ever made though.

Gamespot review: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/driving/bigrigsotrr/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs

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Higgins :

Personally I'm loving my Wii still, Elebits is some quirky fun and there is Zelda. Plus Sonic and the Secret Rings comes out tomorrow and that looks like the first GREAT Sonic game in a long time. Also I think we could be in for some suprises with quirky titles like Cooking Mama Cook Off, etc.

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Quote: "The graphics are about as good as the PS1."


Um--- how's the crack? The Gamecube rivaled the PS2 with its games, so a Wii --- more powerful than a Gamecube --- will undoubtedly look better than a PS2, let alone a PS1. You might as well compare a Nintendo DS to an Atari Lynx while you're at it

ROFL. You take the worst looking screenie of a game rated 5.1 on Gamespot. Riiight, that's fair.

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erm, but isn't condemning a platform based on a few dodgy looking titles, the norm around here ?


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Yah it is--- but---- ummm..... not when it comes to bashing Nintendo? Hehehehe

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Quote: "The Gamecube rivaled the PS2 with its games"


In most cases it was very close in graphics, but GameCube could pull off alot nicer stuff than PS2 could. GameCube was a bit more powerful, but still slightly behind the Xbox

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Lets just all agree that, just as in the case of the 360, the games out for the Wii, for the most part, still do not explore all of the graphical power of the Wii. Take the PS2, God of War 1 and 2 look amazing, sometimes better than some X-box games, that being said it takes some time for good looking games to be developed, most games coming out now are being rushed anyways to get a bigger library out there for the Wii.

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Quote: "erm, but isn't condemning a platform based on a few dodgy looking titles, the norm around here ? "


If we were going by that rule, PC would be the worst. Look at the review i posted a few posts earlier.

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The Gamecube is the king of last-gen graphics because of RE4, there's no better looking XBox or PS2 game, period.

They just made a PC version, and it is missing most of the Gamecubes graphic highlight, hell it looks terrible on PC in comparison, no fogging, no time of day lighting - the GC had really moody lighting, on the PC it's all the same garish lighting, even in a graveyard at night. Kinda takes away that part when the villagers are hunting for you with torches. So if the PC, with modern hardware can't cope with 3 year old Gamecube games, what hope do we have!. Hehe, it's almost like Capcom did it deliberately. To be honest I was expecting to use the mouse, and some shader effects, cool looking water, and maybe a couple of surprises thrown in. Instead everything has been taken from the Gamecube version, no added detail, no reworked textures, the videos look terrible...

I can go on and on, RE4 is my fave game ever - so the travesty that is the PC version really annoyed me, it's still better than most games, still a totally engrossing plot, still fantastic gameplay - which is probably why they thought they could get away with it. If you like to look of RE4, go buy a Gamecube.

My point is that the Gamecube did that, as it was in many regards a wolf in sheeps clothing, it was capable of doing all that, at a flawlessly smooth frame rate, well that's why I own a Wii - I'm just waiting on the wolf showing it's fangs like the Gamecube did.

The 360, is a great machine, with some terrible publishers. Seriously, go play Eragon or Saints Row - they both look like regurgitated PS2 drivel - not next gen, not any gen. My son plays Saints Row a lot, although I can see that being replaced by Crackdown - when you compare Eregon to Gears of War, it's easy to see the pitfalls in the 360 games selection. Basically, before I spend £50 on anything for the 360 I'll be bloomin researching it fully - same goes for the Wii.


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I finished the GC's Metroid Prime yesterday and, boy, do I really _not_ want to look at a #$%##$ Metroid for a decade at least!

Don't get me wrong, the game looks good and is quite balanced, but all that backtracking really, REALLY, irks me ("oh, look, there's a door there that needs the flux capacitor weapon that I don't have... I'll have to get that on the other side of the world, 10 game hours from now, and then trudge all the way back"). I think enormous backtracking really kills a game, even a technically excellent one like this.

Also, putting the save points a few rooms away from bosses is really annoying when you're trying to beat them and have to retry.

Quote: "In most cases it was very close in graphics, but GameCube could pull off alot nicer stuff than PS2 could. GameCube was a bit more powerful, but still slightly behind the Xbox"


I can't compare it with the Xbox, but I have a PS2 and the GC is definately more powerful than PS2. It allows certain effects, like depth of view (see Windwaker) and refractions (see the aura around Samus in $%&$% Metroid).

Quote: "The Gamecube is the king of last-gen graphics because of RE4, there's no better looking XBox or PS2 game, period."


T'is true.

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I would highly recommend staying away from the second one. Gets quite annoying after a while. Lotsa backtracking again.

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Debatable --- Dreamfall: The Longest Journey (Xbox) blew me away with its graphics. But you're right, the Wii is a lion with its fangs un-drawn.

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Well said, Van B, well said

I'm still waiting to get my Wii. Hoping for a price break, but that probably won't be any time soon. I will be getting it sometime around Metroid Prime 3's release though. Can't wait for that game.

Guys, Metroid was always about backtracking and scavenging for the items you need to win. They were all like this. MP games are not your standard shooters or side scrollers either, they are very puzzle oriented. If you like shooters, but hate puzzles, MP games aren't probably for you.

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The Wii is capable of great graphics, it has the power. But game creators apparently haven't figured out how to use it yet.

I just looked at some screenshots of Zelda, and though it does look better, it still isn't very great. Texture quality looks pixelated as if using no filters at all or even AA.

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The graphics of the gamecube continue to amaze me, Zelda: Twilight Princess is a great example. Compared to other gamecube games, it looks amazing, so Wii must at least be able to top that. I think they should have delayed the Wii's release so the first games out could have taken full advantage of the Wii's graphics, and gave a better first impression to gamers.

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Quote: "Guys, Metroid was always about backtracking and scavenging for the items you need to win. They were all like this."


I bet they are... which makes my decision about buying another one in the future very easy. I won't.

I actually own Metroid for the SNES, but never played it enough at that time to realise this.

Quote: " MP games are not your standard shooters or side scrollers either, they are very puzzle oriented. If you like shooters, but hate puzzles, MP games aren't probably for you."


The thing is, I like FPS (but I'm not mad about them) and I love puzzles. And I did like Metroid a lot... up to two thirds of the way through. But the last stretch which included finding all the Artefacts after getting all the weapons (so I could beat Meta Ridley and Metroid Prime) really did my head in.

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First of All, What are game consoles but simplified computers? If a Gamecube can do it, then a computer can. If a xbox 360 can do it then a computer can. (see were I am going)

Second, you could own the GeForce 8800 GTX, but if the game's designed graphics aren't good it will make that card look like crap. Right now, it seems to be that its the software causing poor quality graphics, not the system. Given time games will become more "realistic"

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Take away the background processes, and what is a Gamecube?



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Lol, no, a computer cant. Consider all of the background apps and processes running. That and consoles are designed for the sole purpose of playing games...mostly.

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Wow this thread certainly gre up didn' it?

Oh by the way Rich. I got Warioware Smooth Moves and it does mention multiplayer in the manual! You said it didn't well its there in.. Black and Pink?


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