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Olby
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Posted: 8th Mar 2007 18:57
Hi everyone,

In less than 4 weeks I will receive my laptop which is Dell XPS M1710. It will come with VISTA Business version. So my question is how well (or not) DBPro works on VISTA? Can you run your games, can you actually compile them? Anyhow, I will likely uninstall VISTA and install XP Pro until DBPro X10 is around and so, but anyway I want to know if there is any need to remove VISTA and put my good ol' XP back.

What is your experience with DBPro and VISTA?

Thanks,
Olby

AMD Sempron 3.1+ Ghz, 512MB Ram, ATI R9550 256MB Ram, Sound Blaster Live!, WinXP SP2, DirectX 9.0c, DBPro 6.5
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David R
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Posted: 8th Mar 2007 19:08
From what I've heard, the biggest problem is DBP apps rejecting the DX version, as saying it's too low. Supposedly, this can be fixed by DXWEBSTUP or something.


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Benjamin
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Posted: 8th Mar 2007 19:19
Who knows, maybe Lee coded it to not work on Vista?

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John Y
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Posted: 8th Mar 2007 19:40
Don't turn off UAC, work around it. After you have installed everything, it will hardly bother you.

When you make projects make sure that you store them out of the program files directory, as applications don't have the right to write to it.

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Benjamin
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Posted: 8th Mar 2007 19:47
Quote: "When you make projects make sure that you store them out of the program files directory, as applications don't have the right to write to it."

It sounds like Microsoft are finally doing some things right.

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SageTech
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Posted: 8th Mar 2007 19:59
Actually, Id be interested to know if it would work as well, seeing as Ill be getting a new dell computer in a few weeks time.

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Olby
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Posted: 8th Mar 2007 20:09
@SageTech - Yay I am not the only one with Dell computer. Because in my country HP's and IMB's are more preffered.

Okay thanks for the replies, keep them comming.

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SageTech
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Posted: 8th Mar 2007 20:17
My experience with HP is absolutely dreadful! If there is one thing I have learned it is that I will never by a computer from them again. As for IBM's, the think pad I had from them was very nice, and I most likely would be using it today if I hadn't had dropped and cracked the screen. In the end though, the one dell computer we've had has held out longer then any others, so good choice mate.

Kenjar, yet another victim of NRS (N00b Relapse Syndrome) May he code in peace...

Benjamin
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Posted: 8th Mar 2007 20:22
Quote: "My experience with HP is absolutely dreadful! If there is one thing I have learned it is that I will never by a computer from them again."

What's so bad about them?

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SageTech
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Posted: 8th Mar 2007 21:04
Mostly the fact that My computer has had to be in the shop about 6 times. Not to mention their absolutely idiotic tech support.

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JerBil
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Posted: 8th Mar 2007 23:34
DBP runs well with Vista. The only small irratation is that when
you stop/end a program that has used 3d objects, either primitives
or loaded, Vista puts up a window saying your app has stopped working and it will try to find a solution.

Gets old after a while.

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Posted: 9th Mar 2007 00:05
HP:

Quote: "What's so bad about them?"


Quote: "Not to mention their absolutely idiotic tech support."


I've found HP to be one of the best companies to deal with. Many moons ago I complained that one of their products (a programmable calculator that had to be wheeled into my office, but now fits inside my wristwatch) had a floating point math error. The tech support bloke said he'd never come across that one - but checked my code over the phone and confirmed that his machine gave the same error. The downside was that the machine was obsolete and there were no plans to replace the faulty chip. So I just had to code around the error.

I later purchased an HP postscript laser printer about 12 years ago and despite it being regularly abused by our cats (dirt, fur, water, and god knows what else are all supposed to be bad for anything PC related) it still functions with I'd say 99% efficiency - far in excess of its owners capabilities.

I recently purchased an HP laptop and had some irritating problems arising from a Windows registry problem (apparently caused by installing the MS DX SDK for some obscure reason). The HP tech support got it all sorted out for me by e-mail - no hanging on the phone for an hour waiting for a technician to become available as is the case with many other "Help" lines, no idiotic e-mails telling me to do what I had already told them I'd tried, etc.

You get what you pay for, I guess.
Zappo
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Posted: 9th Mar 2007 13:51
Quote: "The only small irratation is that when you stop/end a program that has used 3d objects, either primitives or loaded, Vista puts up a window saying your app has stopped working and it will try to find a solution."

This sound like a big problem to me. If this happens whenever someone runs a DBPro game on a Vista machine it is not good.

Just out of interest, if a game is compiled on a Vista machine, are there any problems then running it on an XP machine? I am guessing that no Vista specific (DX10) DLLs are compiled into the exe but I thought I would check.
Also, has anyone had a chance to run any speed tests between an XP Pro machine and a Vista one running a compiled DBPro exe? Just wondering if the backward compatibility on Vista affects the speed at all.
JerBil
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Posted: 10th Mar 2007 00:16
- DBP apps compiled on Vista run fine on XP with latest directx.

- Programs compiled on XP run without problem on Vista (so far,)
and Vista does not error when exiting a XP compiled program.

- If you re-compile the XP app under Vista you get the error window.

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Olby
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Posted: 10th Mar 2007 00:31
OK Thanks everyone, will see what to do when I get that laptop.

AMD Sempron 3.1+ Ghz, 512MB Ram, ATI R9550 256MB Ram, Sound Blaster Live!, WinXP SP2, DirectX 9.0c, DBPro 6.5
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