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glyvin101
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Hey im 17 and in a ind study course at my school. going to be finishing up learning some C++ Pretty soon and I am going to pick up a copy of DBP and start learning that I think. I am wondering what tools other then that I should pick up. I really have not made any games before so my knowledge of what I need is not that great. I probally should pick up a modeling tool of some sort like anim8tor or something.

Also could someone tell me the different between a tool like that and a world builder? any tools I should pick up would be greatly appreciate. thanks for your time and help.

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BatVink
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To get started, you would be better using pre-made models. There's loads of free ones on the net, just make sure they are designed for games (low poly). Modelling is an art in itself, and will steal your precious learning time!



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glyvin101
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So should I just buy DB then, or should I pick up a book ?
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The crazy
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I post this to everyone who needs a model to test with I made this little test character for anyone who just wants something that'll walk jump die ect.

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=93259&b=3

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glyvin101
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Ok Im thinking of Getting the DBP online version a few Q's will I still get some good media to start myself with if I get the 90mb download? also I am thinking about buying the DBP book volume 2 because I think that I can get all the basic stuff covered in the first book on the forums, I can't afford both books anywho any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, also wondering if I should get like cad shop 4 or some kind of world builder, lemme know what you think

thanks


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GatorHex
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Posted: 12th Mar 2007 16:53 Edited at: 12th Mar 2007 16:55
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I got the boxed version, but got mine from Fast Track Publishing / Amazon, which came with a couple of games and loads of Dark Matter models and a printed manual.

The online version doesn't have these but the online version is half price so a real bargain this month only £19.99!

You don't realy need to buy any books everything is available in the help files, or online.

http://www.KumKie.com http://bulldog.servegame.com
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glyvin101
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meh, I really like books They help me learn for some reason just a great way for me I think >.< what about a world builder or something? and is the boxed really worth the extra 50 bucks almost?
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I don't think you can compair the price of the boxed version this month as it's half price on the download, so I guess go for the download, if it was normal price (only £10 cheaper instead of £30 cheaper) I'd say go for the boxed and get the free model pack.

http://www.KumKie.com http://bulldog.servegame.com
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glyvin101
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ok thanks, Any idea if I still get a good ammount of models its a 90 meg dl so I get like 80mb of models
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glyvin101
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bump
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Xenocythe
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I got DarkMatter 1. I don't use it but I plan on using it. It is a wonderful package. The media it supplies is more than enough for a series of games. Buy it.



3D Modelling, Animating - Milkshape 3D - $25
UVMapping - LithUnwrap - $0
Texturing,2D Art - Photoshop Cs2 - (n/a)
World - 3D World Studio - $120
Music - FL Studio XXL Package - $361

-Mansoor S.
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The online version has basically no models besides those that are used in the example programs. So yes, as xenocythe said, you should buy darkmatter to begin with until you learn to make your own quality models.

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glyvin101
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well atm I have
3ds max 8
Photoshop CS2
and adacity for audio editing

What is the diff between a world builder and a 3d model?
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Silvester
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Where does everyone get Max from these days

Anyway,i think you shouldn't bother on media for games yet,as well...you first have to learn coding.When you have incredible media,but your game sucks...its not fun.if your media is crap.though the game good,you can always remake the media but the game will be liked.

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Jeku
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Quote: "Where does everyone get Max from these days"


It's only what, $6,000? Ahh, sofa change

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I don't find it hard to believe that his school may have bought a few copies.

common people are walking in line.

Mitsu Fly Ride.
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LD52
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Quote: "I don't find it hard to believe that his school may have bought a few copies."

You mean max or DBP ?
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I was referring to copies of 3ds Max and Photoshop.

common people are walking in line.

Mitsu Fly Ride.
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Just about every computer in my school (several hundred) has photoshop 7.0 loaded on them, and a few have CS2 (but lets not go into that... hehe).


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Jeku
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Posted: 14th Mar 2007 03:23
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When someone says "I have X software" it doesn't usually mean his school has them.

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glyvin101
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yea my means of obtaining things of my own, robotics at my school gets free 3DS max and well it gets passed around to some peoples home PCs for "robotics work"
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