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PAGAN_old
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Posted: 20th Mar 2007 00:29 Edited at: 20th Mar 2007 00:30
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i am looking at dual core cpu s and so far several amd dual cores catch my eye

athlon x2 6000

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773

Athlon 64 FX-62 Windsor 2.8GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103861

Athlon 64 FX-74
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103866


first of all, i compared the fx and athlon x2 and i see no difference, what makes these cpu's what they are?

another lack of knowledge i have is the socket types. AM2 or socket F?

my instincts are telling me to go with AM2

When i was browsing through amd cpu's this morning at school, a classmate told me that i would be a complete f*cktard to buy an amd. And i should go with a core 2 duo. I looked at core 2 duo's, and they are all worse than any of the amd cpu's i listed above. The l2 cache is bigger but its shared which i am guessing makes it worse. l1 cache is somewhat small (smaller than an athlon 6000). the bus speed is smaller. This guy told me that nor speed or cache or bus speed don't matter because benchmarks proved core 2 duos to be better than the top of the line athlon x2 amd. I have no idea where these benchmarks came from and how can it be possible for a core 2 duo to outperform a 6000. a lot of the reviews on the amd's mentioned the amd's running better than an core 2 duo The only intels that are better than the athlon 6000 are core 2 extremes and core 2 quad which are $1000.

My instincts also tell me that if i want to build a gaming pc (which i am) amd is the way to go.

The guy who flamed amd this morning told me that amd's hve some bottleneck. but he never told me what is the bottleneck. Anyone know?

and if anyone thinks i should get a core 2 duo, please share your opinion.

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Steve J
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Posted: 20th Mar 2007 01:15
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@Pagan: No. The Core 2 duo series is in the top right now. Get them. The speed is faster, search google for reviews and benchmarks. My c2d overclocks betterm and outperforms all of the sissy amd procs.

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Posted: 20th Mar 2007 01:16
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They HAD a bottleneck in floating point handling. Trust me, you wouldn't have noticed in normal use, and besides, it got fixed years ago. I don't think it's wise to spend more than $150 on a processor when even something small like a 2.0GHz is nippy enough to do most things. I'm using a 1.8Ghz Athlon XP, at least a few years old by now and if there is a bottleneck, it's unnoticeable.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Posted: 20th Mar 2007 03:34 Edited at: 20th Mar 2007 03:36
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Quote: "@Pagan: No. The Core 2 duo series is in the top right now. Get them. The speed is faster, search google for reviews and benchmarks. My c2d overclocks betterm and outperforms all of the sissy amd procs."


you are forgetting my friend that i am not talking about some sissy amd products. i am talking about the top of the line dual core amd.

in the reviews, some people who switched to 6000 who had a c2d before said there was a very big performance increase.

i am not sure if i believe the benchmarks.

the core 2 duo does run quite cool which is a +

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Steve J
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Well I cant tell you much, since you dont believe the benchmarks. All I know is my 3.66ghz C2D beats the AMD market to the ground.

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Yeah well if he already has a AMD motherboard then a opteron will beat a FX or XP to the ground (its a amd server cpu) im looking at the 2ghz amd right now. The Opteron is your best bet with dual core amd's.

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c2d doesent have a 3.66 ghz processor.

did you oc it?

i am sure the c2d is good, i am starting to eye the e6700, since i got such good reviews.

But since intel is dominating the market, everyone has intel and there are not enough opinions about amd.

the only reviews i have red of people who had bot a c2d and a 6000 x2 said the 6000 was much better. but the c2d he had was an e6600 or a 6300. So maybe the 6700 is better. according t the reviews, its definateley better than he e6600.

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QX6700 Quad Core Core 2 Dou Extreme for the world!


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How many 17 year olds working in mcdonalds for 7.50/hour does it take to buy one of those?....

too bad there is only one of me...

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Of course I oced it! The C2D's OC on a gigabyte board amazingly!

I do of course have the x6800

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Quote: "QX6700 Quad Core Core 2 Dou Extreme for the world! "

thouse aren't core 2 duos, they are called core 2 extreme

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Posted: 20th Mar 2007 04:28
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you have a core 2 extreme?

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not the quad core, just the high end c2d they first released.

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My laptop has a core 2 duo 2.0ghz plays all games except oblivion on the highest settings. its a XPS 1210 =)

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They pay 7.50 an hour?


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actually yea, that's about what mcdonalds pays, 7-7.50/hr.

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Quote: "not the quad core, just the high end c2d they first released."

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115011

you have a core 2 extreme prosessor.

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Intel dual core processors are faster than AMDs and generally cost less.

3.4GHz Pentium D Dual Core, 2GB DDR2 RAM, NVidia 8800 640MB PCI-E

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Quote: "Intel dual core processors are faster than AMDs and generally cost less."


Do some research before you make that assumption, yes some Intel's are better then some AMD's but AMD tends to overclock better. Don't read magazine reviews those are biased read customer reviews...

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Posted: 27th Mar 2007 01:25
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new egg dude

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