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Geek Culture / "TGC cant endorse contextual help for other game development languages" <- Wah!?

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David R
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 12:51 Edited at: 24th Mar 2007 12:52
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This is technically nothing to with me, but I seriously do not believe the reasoning behind the locking of Steve J's JScript thread (http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=102649&b=2)

"TGC cant really endorse contextual help for other game development languages"

In what way was the thread asking for endorsement from TGC? It was simply a question. Not only was the thread locked for a very flimsy reason, the solution offered is a non-solution: The problem at hand was nothing to do with "other game development languages" it was a problem with JScript (hence the thread title)

I think the locking of that thread should seriously be reconsidered; because otherwise, in light of how that thread was locked, any thread mentioning any other engine or tool will be considered endorsement of "other game development languages", which is coplete and utter garbage.

Does this mean all the C++ and other languages threads will be locked? Or is this an extremely flimsy, meaningless lock on a thread that is no where near deserving such a lock - I really think it is the latter


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Lost in Thought
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 12:58
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That post should have been in Programming Talk instead of Geek Culture. Other than that I saw no need to really lock it since Rich created a board for such a purpose as posts like it.

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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 13:17
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If you want to restart the discussion in Programming Talk, I'm sure it will be fine. Indi was right to bring it to a halt in Geek Culture though, the different boards are here for a reason.
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KeithC
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 17:51
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Perhaps moving the thread to Programming Talk would be a better solution, instead of locking it then? Just a suggestion.

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Miguel Melo
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 18:46
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I'm sure being a MOD is a complicated job at the best of times, and I personally respect you guys' work a lot. Really.

However, I do concur that a few of the locks around here are a bit heavy handed (and this is not sour grapes as I myself never had a thread locked - I'm just observing).

In particular, Indi could lighten up a bit... I just had a quick trawl through the forum to confirm this and noticed that about half of the locks are his: some correctly justified, others a bit arbitrary IMO...

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LD52
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Posted: 24th Mar 2007 21:34
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Yea but indi usually doesn't leave you hanging if he locks a post. He gives you a link or some advice.
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Posted: 25th Mar 2007 00:14 Edited at: 25th Mar 2007 00:16
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eh, indi is a bit active...

but he probably means the best, and it's nice of him to put so much effort into a volunteer position... not that big of a deal if he slips up occasionally (in this instance the solution is to re-create the thread in the programming talk section) and of course it's not like this is really a slip up... the thread was in the wrong board

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David R
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Posted: 25th Mar 2007 00:37
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Quote: "the thread was in the wrong board "


Technically it isn't: The problem at hand is nothing actually to do with Ogre or programming languages at all, it is a general problem with Windows and JScript, which is therefore best suited to Geek Culture. If the time had been taken to actually understand the subject matter of the actual thread, then the meaningless assistance and "endorsement" comment wouldn't of appeared


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BatVink
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Posted: 25th Mar 2007 02:23
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It's Ogre installation, and it's a jScript interpreter...so it's programming talk

You wouldn't expect Nike to allow discussions about Adidas on their forum. In the case of TGC, they do allow it, just so long as it's in the dedicated area. 99% of companies wouldn't do it at all.
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Steve J
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Yah, for some reason my pc wont default to running the .js scripts from the Jscript App that it is supposed to. Really odd.

pleading and needing and bleeding and breeding and feeding exceeding..where is everybody? trying and lying defying denying crying and dying..where is everybody?
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indi
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a simple email to me instead of a public whinge would have sufficed, its not like I hide my contact details and its not like the half zillion other people who email me dont get their problems solved.

I like to help the majority of people here as they understand sometimes its not a perfect system and Im nowhere near perfect, and then there are some who like to have a go as soon as you slip up.
bloody whingers mate is what they are in australia.

I spend the time here for free and I answer as many emails and questions as I can get out of my own pocket, the least you can do is show a little respect when something is out of order, send me a message if you feel hard done by.

I will move posts of that nature next time.
sorry Steve J ill just move it next time. no hard feelings

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Steve J
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neh, I was just curious on the lock, I was going to email you when I saw this thread.

pleading and needing and bleeding and breeding and feeding exceeding..where is everybody? trying and lying defying denying crying and dying..where is everybody?
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Quote: "bloody whingers mate is what they are in australia."


And Portugal.

Anyway, Indi, as I said I think you guys do an awesome job 99% of the time, which is probably more than can be said of me at the office.

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thanks mate , nice to know when i goto portugal theres a slice of home there

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Quote: "I like to help the majority of people here as they understand sometimes its not a perfect system and Im nowhere near perfect, and then there are some who like to have a go as soon as you slip up.
bloody whingers mate is what they are in australia."


I can understand if I was specifically targeting you (e.g "Indi did this, Indi did that" etc. etc.) But did you fail to notice that nowhere in that thread I mentioned your name in any way or form? Who locked it is irrelevant, and this is nothing what-so-ever to do with respect.

Whether I email you about this or not is also irrelevant: no doubt you probably would of still made the 'whinging' comment whether I had emailed you or not; but if I post here, in a public forum, at least I get a small quantity of confidence in the fact that you would not reply with a condescending or insulting message. Besides, why does it matter at all whether this was emailed or not? Either way, the outcome is essentially the same, and at least this thread/issue has benefited from the opinions and contributions of other posters, as opposed to discussing it in 'mono'

And by the way, the little respect thing: You earn respect.


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Posted: 28th Mar 2007 03:03
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and you lost mine dude.

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But he's not a moderator.

That's not as bad as you think you said.
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