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Bizar Guy
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 04:05 Edited at: 3rd Apr 2007 04:06
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Happy Passover to all the other Jews out there (assuming there are other Jews on this forum)!

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Believe it or not, the christian church I go to, of which I attend soley for the purpose of playing the music for , celebrates the holiday. So happy passover day, or merry passover day, or whatever it is

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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 04:16 Edited at: 3rd Apr 2007 04:16
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We're not Jewish and our family celebrates the passover!


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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 05:18
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Well, technically Easter is a pagan holiday with a sugar coating (no pun intended... Easter... candy lol ) Christians really should be celebrating Passover and not Easter (from my point of view).

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The crazy
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 05:39
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Well, I'll add in before some hater ruins the thread, but Palm Sunday was yesterday right? Is that the same as passover or no? I should know so I feel bad but oh well

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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 06:08
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Quote: "Well, I'll add in before some hater ruins the thread, but Palm Sunday was yesterday right? Is that the same as passover or no?"
No two completely different events. I would explain but religion discussion isn't allowed on the forum.


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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 06:26
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Quote: "3.7 Debate about religious belief or any tangent of religion"


It looks like its ok as long as its not set to stir a debate of any kind. Though I can never understnad these things, so dont mind me


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indi
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 06:26
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and so is this thread regarding a religious event.

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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 08:46
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Quote: "and so is this thread regarding a religious event."


Technically it's a stat, as we have it off work and it's a national holiday. Would you lock a thread saying "Merry Christmas"?

But anyways yah, I agree to disagree.

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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 08:53
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Jeku, I made a similar post in the mod forum. I would definitely like some clarification on this 'rule'.


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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 09:33
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It's easter, all about eating too many chocolate eggs that you didn't want in the first place, ohh and old movies being shown on TV, like the Great Escape.

It's tradition to hard boil some eggs, paint them to look like the members of the A-Team, then roll them down a hill. If they survive the journey, throw them against a wall. There are some weird traditions in the UK, but they're not all as sensible as Easter - which seems to be an excercise in giving your kids diabetes.


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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 14:39
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I'll unlock this thread and allow it to continue for now, because it isn't a *debate*, it's just a greetings / celebration thread. Hence the same reason we don't lock 'Happy Christmas' threads. When they start debating (or flaming / arguing / disagreeing) over the said religious event, then it becomes and issue.

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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 15:21
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Wow 5 mods posting each after the other! Great I love seeing those Mod Stamps. There so secure!


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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 15:22
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Good call.

I don't celebrate Passover, but our Year 11 Religious education teacher got us to do the celebration in his room once, the room reeked of Garlic, but it was a pretty cool way of learning about it, he did that sort of this a lot, for examples he does these strange lessons where he demonstrates discrimination by singling out a minority a certain hair colour in the class and completely discriminates them in the lesson or simulating Auschwitz,(sp?) he kind of showed how religion can be cool and cruel.

Although I'm not Christian or Jew, I still feel it necessary to celebrate certain traditions and events, I seem to celebrate Jesus and events involving people joining together (Christmas has this great effect of bringing people closer together, even if it is becoming more material/commercial now), more than anything else, he was a cool dude, but to say more on my opinions there would be breaking the AUP. I will even quote the scripture of Judaism and Christianity if it makes sense to me or relates somehow to Buddhism.

So happy Passover to all of the Jews and anybody else out there who celebrates it, enjoy yourselves.

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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 18:24
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Thanks Richard. Glad yall have good sense.

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alex 1337
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 19:13
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Wow, I did not not know there were any jews here either. Well, I am jewish . Happy Passover
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 19:13
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Quote: "It's tradition to hard boil some eggs, paint them to look like the members of the A-Team, then roll them down a hill."

So that's what I've been doing wrong all those years.

Happy Passover (I don't celebrate it, but I do like those Cadbury Cream Eggs.).

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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 23:38
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Wow, I really didn't expect this to be locked, but I'm glad it was unlocked. I was pretty certain greeting threads were allowed.

Anyways, it's still Passover.

@alex 1337, yay! I had thought that after Megaton left, I might be the only Jew here.

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alex 1337
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@Bizar, Hows all the matzah going for u? BTW, I didn't know that Megaton was jewish.
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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 02:35 Edited at: 4th Apr 2007 02:36
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@alex 1337, I discovered I have a wheat allergy recently, so I had to spend a lot of time trying to find matzah made with a different grain that was still kosher. Food allergies suck.
And yeah, Megaton's Jewish. He used to live in Israel even.

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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 06:50
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Happy Easter everyone Enjoy your chocolate and turkey---- and your chocolate rabbits. Actually I'd much prefer eating rabbit on Easter, but you can't have everything (and probably can't buy rabbit at the supermarket )

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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 07:02
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i dont follow any one religion or really believe any of them are real as im an atheist.
I dont knock people for doing so, In my mind however its a control / faith / belief system i just dont buy into.

Religious events have no recourse to the other members here who dont celebrate your religious events, as well as for making and developing games.

This is why i locked the post in the first place, if it doesnt tun into a debate, that appears to be the rule we are following.

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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 07:29
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Dude, it sounds like you're trying to spark some kind of debate. Nobody asked to know what yours or anyone else's opinion of religion is, thank you very much. The thread is wishing happy Easter and Passover to those of us who do, and that's it. If we stuck by your logic then I'll have to start locking the Halloween threads in October, would that be cool with you?

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Indi, ever realize that most of your threads are inflammatory and cynical? People are just having a relatively pleasant conversation about a holiday, and your unwarranted criticism of the topic is just causing a stir.

Well, happy Passover/Easter everyone .

That's not as bad as you think you said.
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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 08:04
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mate there is no need to get your hackles up about if I dont follow a religion.
Once again if you read very carefully I dont knock people for doing so.

Im not a Dude Jeku, I dont visit cattle farms on holiday from the city.
There is no spark of debate with me, I dont knock what people want to beleive in.

Telling me about my logic and conferring that I would lock halloween is speculation on your behalf and your whole post regarding my comments is very negative and transparent in its opinion regarding belief or not.

If you must know I dont follow pagan festivals as well. and since the solstice and halloween etc. are pulled along into other religions like christianity today means very little to me as well. We dont have kids in costumes in australia much for halloween where Im living now. Its not a tradition here today, but was more stronger many years ago.

Please also consider that not everyone is from the same country, does not have the same religious beliefs, does not have the same belief systems indoctrinated from the society they live in.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, regardless of your objections, stated without digesting the content or not.

Im glad you think your the one to tell me otherwise jeku, I can see now where your coming from.

I think you fail to see I have an opinion just like you and are entitled to it, you deemed my reply as some sort of flame. I havent knocked any religions, I have told you in honesty that i dont follow a religion and I dont knock it that people follow them.

In australian terms, you lost your tinnie up the creek mate over something so harmless. good work
proud of you.

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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 08:15
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ionstream perhaps your interpreting them like that.
The reason why i locked this in the first place is because it was religious.
The mods made a post regarding it to discuss the rule of thumb we should take about religious events.
It was deemed that wishing people "happy festive events" from any religious belief system was ok but if the post started a debate it was to be closed.
I posted above to tell the users of the post why I publicly closed it.
They also have a right to know why i did.
Being an atheist and not knocking your religious beliefs is what i clearly stated.
There is no harm in having a different view about stuff.


The mods made a decision regarding these posts in the future and now we have a good ruleset for these issues. I like to follow straight rules instead of general rule of thumb as well.
It eliminates tangles in the rules.

If both of you had sent me an email I would of not waisted the space in this thread to reply to your interpersonal questions and comments towards me.

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I'm not talking about the thread about you locking it, I'm talking about the follow-up one you made in which you stated that this religion is a "control / faith / belief system" that you don't "buy into." In my opinion, that's inflammatory and condescending.

As far as email goes, I'd prefer the openness of a forum in which my comments can be openly critiqued (big word!).

That's not as bad as you think you said.
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Quote: "Please also consider that not everyone is from the same country, does not have the same religious beliefs, does not have the same belief systems indoctrinated from the society they live in."


In that case, use your own advice and realize that not everyone may be as "enlightened" as you in Australia. So in respect for people who "buy into" a religion, or even those that celebrate Easter for chocolate, please don't bog down the thread with your negativity as it will get the thread locked once again. I don't doubt it will already be locked. Ah well, it was fun while it lasted

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now you insult australia in a sarcastic comment towards me.
very clever

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All I can say is... okay?

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Come on guys, your ruining it for the faceless corporations who make a fortune at times like this.


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Quote: "In that case, use your own advice and realize that not everyone may be as "enlightened" as you in Australia."

I don't like that. That sounds racial to me. I think you Jeku and indi are acting like childs now. Just quit it! Rich unlocked this thread, indi is a professed atheist and iostream needs his head examined for taking things to personal! end of story!

Happy Passover everyone! Were celebrating it tonight, alothoug technically it's not passover we've run into a few problems.


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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 10:38 Edited at: 4th Apr 2007 10:40
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Well Happy Easter to everyone who celebrates it.

@Jeku, I agree with you 100%

@Bizar, Wow, that must really suck. Well I hope you did find some whithout the wheat.

@Darth Vader, Happy Passover to you as well.
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I would post my views on atheism indi but I won't post a thread that will get this thread locked. Anyway, HAPPY EASTER!

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Indi, there is nothing wrong with having an opinion, in moderation of course, because the last person in a religious event thread who had a contradictory opinion was banned because it was it was really offensive. When you look at your comment, okay it's fine to say you don't do the events because you're an atheist, but I think the only thing I think that could have caused debate is referring religion as being a control system, I'm not going to say I agree or disagree with that idea. I don't think there is a problem with that opinion, but just expressing it into a thread related to religion in a forum that frowns upon religious debate is a bit thoughtless, as that could easily turn into a religious debate.

Happy Easter, don't get too chubby on the eggs on Sunday. (Or before for the impatient little swine)

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Quote: "It's easter, all about eating too many chocolate eggs that you didn't want in the first place, ohh and old movies being shown on TV, like the Great Escape.
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I do not like it when people say "easter is about..." or "Christmas is about..." without actually saying what these events are about. Easter is one of the most important events in the Christian calendar, it's all about the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. So, Van B, I know you didn't mean to cause offence with what you said easter is all about, and everyone else for that matter. Just so long as we remember the true meaning of easter, and that it isn't about chocolate. The eggs symbolise new beginnings. Christ saved us all and that was a new beginning. I don't think threads should be locked for having a religious viewpoint. I think that's blasphemous. If threads with religious views are going to be locked, what about the other thousands of threads where users take the Lord's name in vain, for instance? They aren't going to be locked. Just as long as everyone gets along well and doesn't get abusive, I think religious debate is perfectly OK.

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Christian calendar?

If I was a Christian I might feel qualified to tell people the true meaning of Easter. I'm not, so the true meaning of Easter for me, and practically every brit born in the last 40 years is easter eggs, painting eggs to roll down a steep hill, sorry if that does not meet your requirements but then I probably muck up xmas too - there's me spending a fortune on gifts, getting drunk, having a good time - probably should be clinging onto the last threads of religion left in that holiday huh.

Damn this thread went downhill fast, like so many ill-fated easter eggs...


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Like Jesus being tempted by the Devil during his 40days/nights I see our Easter egg mountain as the Devils temptation and you have to resist it until Easter Sunday.... only 3 and a bit more days to go yum!

I have to confess though when I was younger I used to carefully open them, eat the back half of the egg, then put it back together again so my parents didn't know

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Happy Passover!

and

Happy Easter!

and heck why not

Happy Chirstmas to all that celebrate it in April !

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Had it not been for religion, Christmas and Easter would not exist. Just bear that in mind.

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That's an excellent argument 91, if not for religion, we wouldn't have religious holidays.

If not for peanuts, we wouldn't have PB+J sandwiches.

Your trying to start a debate with the wrong person, I don't care enough about it mate - hell I've no idea how so many people can get bent out of shape over this stuff, or how it causes so many problems. Personally I just see these things as they are currently regarded, a good laugh, and an excuse to spoil the young-uns (kids). Whatever these holidays meant originally is surely diluted now, as I said though, not my religion, celebrating them is something that everyone does regardless of religion, so be happy; as long as you know what this stuff means to you it's all good.


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Unfortunately this has now become a debate, rather than a thread of good wishes.

I'm sure many people are well-meaning, but the religious debate rule is there to stop minor comments turning into a major flamewar.
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