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Zotoaster
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 12:44
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Not for kiddies, people. I just looked on it, and, well.. you can find out for yourself what's happened. Every single post is now dirty. (Un)fortunatelly, when you click the links they give you, nothing happens

[href]www.darkbasic.nl[/href]

What happened? Anyone know?

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dark coder
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 12:46
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Must be a new marketing strategy.

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Chris Franklin_
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 12:47
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>_< that's why I stopped using phpbb

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indi
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 12:56
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what a headache for this owner.



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Tom J
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Posted: 3rd Apr 2007 16:19
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Well they don't have Rich and his mod squad

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Matt Rock
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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 03:13
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PHPBB is doing the same crap to me right now on my website. Chris and I are the only moderators and we've been banning IP's and deleting threads left and right. So now I've been forced into installing SMF, which doesn't work with my server for some reason . And PHPBB has a pathetically aweful community in terms of not being helpful. You ask a question and they proceed to slam you because you don't know the answer... sort of like gamedev. If I ask a question on TGC, even when it's a topic that has nothing to do with TGC, I get every angle of support I could hope for... so maybe I'm just spoiled. But I know one thing's for certain, I hate PHPBB and once I get SMF to work, I'm never going back to it.


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Bug Man
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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 04:29
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Oh what a mess....

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Benjamin
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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 07:00
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Quote: "PHPBB is doing the same crap to me right now on my website. Chris and I are the only moderators and we've been banning IP's and deleting threads left and right"

How exactly are these bots getting past registration?

.. Or haven't you configured it so that only registered users can post?

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Chris Franklin_
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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 15:30
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Quote: "How exactly are these bots getting past registration?"


Dunno

Quote: ".. Or haven't you configured it so that only registered users can post?"


They are all registered bots posting it's a right pain, i've just deleted another i dunno 3 days worth of bot spam

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Zeus
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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 15:59
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bots are on mine all the time. Sony Gamers United. There was one trying to sell drugs without prescription.

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Kentaree
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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 16:55
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We use Simple Machines Forum for devhat, and we've only ever had one spambot, after which we turned on captcha, and none since.

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Matt Rock
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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 19:52 Edited at: 4th Apr 2007 19:53
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PHPBB bots can register themselves somehow. I installed a captcha during the registration process, and they get past it. I installed another mod that makes a newly-registering member click "are you human? yes/ no" after being told *that* would keep them out, and it worked for about two days. Then I changed the name of the forum where 99% of the bots are showing up from "General Talk" to "The Blah Spot" to see if it helped, and again, it helped for a few days, but then they just came back yet again. So either PHPBB bots are made brilliantly (and that's what it looks like to me), or someone has a vendetta with me, Chris, or some other MISoft team member . But I've heard endless good things about SMF, so if I can figure out how to install it, hopefully it'll solve the bot issue before we release Eternal Equinox .

Quote: "There was one trying to sell drugs without prescription"

That seems to be the product of choice for the bulk of our bots. It's always prescription drugs (funny since we're working on a game where a pharmaceutical company is the antagonist), and lately we've seen a lot of pornographic bots as well. We just can't beat them.


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dab
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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 23:37
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I'd say build a homebrew forum. Just keep making the security so tough that nothing can happen. That seems to be the only way to prevent this. I've been working on my own homebrew forum. I guess I'll tell you how it works against bots when I finish it.

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 4th Apr 2007 23:42
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This is why I use Drupal, I can have forums and an easy to manage website at the same time, also I don't get stupid spam bots, well shame really, sounds like the Dutch DB forum has gone to pits, hope they figure themselves out of it.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 5th Apr 2007 00:27 Edited at: 5th Apr 2007 00:28
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Hmm, I was thinkin about installing a phpbb forum on one of my sites, glad I got the heads up

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Oneka
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Posted: 5th Apr 2007 02:32
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I had a couple, but after just putting on the registration "How do you spell Oneka?" I have not had any...I had a couple left and right, now none


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Oh yeah and just so you know its Oh-nek-a not One-ka!
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Xenocythe
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Posted: 5th Apr 2007 02:34
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Thats a smart idea Oneka

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Moondog
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Posted: 5th Apr 2007 03:14
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hotmail has this thing now that randomly comes up with a security question when you send emails. it shows a .jpg with several letters and numbers in it, and you have to type them in. Funny thing, it dosnt work half the time, and I"M NOT A BOT! lol

MOONDOG


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Matt Rock
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Posted: 5th Apr 2007 04:08
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Moondog: You mean a captcha? Those are quite common on most websites nowadays.

Well, I'm officially finished with PHPBB. I've just figured out how to install SMF, and after playing around with stuff all day, I'm comfortable with how it looks, works, and feels. Everyone and their mother has told me to use SMF as it will prevent bot attacks, so I guess it's time to find out if it's true.

I must say it, SMF is incredibly cool, and I'm glad everyone told me about it. It runs circles around PHPBB in every way, shape, and form. It was hard to install for me though, I'm about as dumb as dumb can be when it comes to php and all that, I've always avoided learning internet programming and server stuff. Thankfully, aplus tech support walked me through everything. On that note, if Stephen Colbert used aplus hosting, he'd ask "Aplus... great customer service, or the greatest customer service?" The barrage of stupid questions I threw at them, they were patient and walked me through every little thing today... stellar imo.

Anyway, for any of you using PHPBB, I strongly recommend you check out Simple Machines Forum. I'm a believer now. The forum I just made with it is here. If any of you get bored, check it out and feel free to mess around with stuff to see if it's worth getting for your own server, just do it before Sunday because I'm deleting test threads and properly launching the new forum then. This new forum isn't spectacular, but keep in mind that I'm a total net noob with zero experience in this stuff and I whipped this out pretty fast, especially compared to the time spent getting PHPBB to work properly. When you want to upgrade it, you don't have to code anything like you do with PHPBB, SMF just lets you install mods and upgrades... no messing about with code whatsoever. Tomorrow me and Chris Franklin are going to "decorate" and get it set up fully, so maybe check it out after that's all done.

Quote: "I had a couple, but after just putting on the registration "How do you spell Oneka?" I have not had any...I had a couple left and right, now none "

Man, if I knew PHP that might have worked. I tried that "are you human" thing but they got right passed it. That's definitely clever though, get the registering member to repeat a word or phrase.


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Osiris
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Posted: 5th Apr 2007 04:53
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Try asking rich...maybe he will help.

Your signature has been erased by a mod because it's larger than 600x120....
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The Wilderbeast
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Posted: 5th Apr 2007 19:51 Edited at: 5th Apr 2007 19:54
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Quote: "bots are on mine all the time. Sony Gamers United. There was one trying to sell drugs without prescription."


no offense but it's because you are using a free forum host. So people know that there are many forums under the myfreeforum domain name and so they target those. Self hosted ones are more inconspicuous. But we still get a few on ours every now and then. Beats me how they get past the verification system that phpBB has.

There's also a MOD I saw somewhere that makes it so you can only register if you have been invited, but not much use for their largish community...


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Matt Rock
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Posted: 5th Apr 2007 20:50 Edited at: 5th Apr 2007 20:51
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I'm pretty sure I know why they don't target SMF, but they target PHPBB. My old PHPBB forum was (is) www.misoftstudios.com/phpbb/index.php. My new SMF forum is www.misoftstudios.com/minetforum/index.php. I think bots were just searching for subdomains named PHPBB and targeting that, so if you re-name the subdomain, I'm assuming you won't have a bot problem anymore. I'm not sure how to do that though, I don't think it's as simple as re-naming a folder and PHPBB understanding it.

Edit: no, I must be wrong, because darkbasic.nl doesn't do that with its subdomain. So nevermind, lol


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