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headcrab 53
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Posted: 7th Apr 2007 03:30 Edited at: 7th Apr 2007 03:31
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My last computer, which I got in 1999, came with a 17" CRT Samsung monitor. When I got my current computer, in December of 2004, I kept using the same monitor. A few months later, the screen image started to randomly move left and right. Not much, though. However, one time I walked into the room, and saw that the image on the screen was shaking like crazy, then sparks flew out of the monitor and it started to spew out smoke.

I bought another monitor, also Samsung (figuring that the one that sort of blew up was just worn out). Now, less than 2 years after buying it, the image on this monitor has began to randomly move left and right.

I'll say this: If I see the image on this monitor move again, I'm replacing it, and I can definately say that I'm not getting anything from Samsung any time soon.

I just thought this could help anyone that's going to buy a monitor.
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Odd, my samsung crt is 4+ years old and still fine. :/

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Posted: 7th Apr 2007 05:59
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Samsung have always served me well too! Must be a dodgy one you have... Either that or you're mistreating them in some way to have killed 2 in 6 years...

Are they kept inside a cabinet where they cant breathe (ie are they ventilated)?

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my laser printer is samsung and has outperformed what i expected from it.

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Both my monitor and my new laser color printer are Samsung, and I've been very pleased with both of them. No problems whatsoever for me, but they're both quite new still.

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Well, my guess is that most of the monitors you buy are coming from the same place with different covers on them.

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Quote: "My last computer, which I got in 1999, came with a 17" CRT Samsung monitor"


So its 8 years old, how long do you expect it to last?

My Viewsonic I got back in 2000 still works perfectly, its just a little darker than it used to be.

I've always liked the picture on Samsungs, but they have horribly vertical viewing angles on their LCDs.

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Posted: 7th Apr 2007 17:41 Edited at: 7th Apr 2007 17:43
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Quote: "Odd, my samsung crt is 4+ years old and still fine. :/ "


My old one was almost 6 years old when it went up in smoke, though. Which model is yours?

Quote: "Are they kept inside a cabinet where they cant breathe (ie are they ventilated)?"


Looks to me like this should be plenty of ventilation:


Also if you've played the demo of Nuclear Winter from a while back you might recognize that desk...

Quote: "my laser printer is samsung and has outperformed what i expected from it."

Quote: "Both my monitor and my new laser color printer are Samsung, and I've been very pleased with both of them. No problems whatsoever for me, but they're both quite new still."


This monitor is quite new still, also. I checked and it was bought on October 19, 2005. So it's about a year and a half old and is already acting up a bit. Is your monitor an LCD or CRT?

Quote: "Well, my guess is that most of the monitors you buy are coming from the same place with different covers on them."


Actually, both of the monitors I've mentioned here came from a different place.

Quote: "So its 8 years old, how long do you expect it to last?"


It would be that old but it went up in smoke about a year and a half ago. Plus, I have a TV from the 1980's that is used every day and it has no problems.
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a TV from the 80s will have a considerably lower resolution and therefore less stress on its components.

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Quote: "Plus, I have a TV from the 1980's that is used every day and it has no proble"

I also have a 1980's TV (a hotel model) and it's small but it works perfectly... and yes, it's a Samsung.

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Posted: 7th Apr 2007 17:55 Edited at: 7th Apr 2007 17:56
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The TV does indeed have a much lower resolution than this monitor. But another TV I had with the same resolution messed up, too.

It seems that alot of old electronics seem to last longer. Along with that TV from the 80's is a stereo that's about the same age (both that TV and stereo are older than me), and a VCR from around 11 years ago. All of them work fine.

I had another TV that was 5 years old that messed up - there were blotches of colour all over the screen. I replaced that in August of 2006. I had a VCR made by the same company that quit after, guess how long, 1 year! I also had a stero that started acting up after about 4 years. I replaced that last weekend. Those ones were all fairly inexpensive though, the TV was only $100, which is not much at all for that size.
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Thats modern society for you - 20 years ago you bought a TV expecting it to survive an A Bomb. Now you buy technology with the intent of replacing it after a few years - and if you dont have that intent, you're screwed as it'll die after that time anyway

The old VHS player is a good example. That technology was refined and perfected SO much that they never broken and lived forever. Fantastic for us. Crap for Sony, etc. You bought 1 player from them and they never see you again for 20 years (ie, when it breaks).

Unreliable products are a way of companies keeping themselves floating. They have to tread a fine line between making something reliable enough that you'll buy another one and unreliable enough that you will NEED to buy another one from them in the not too distant future.

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Quote: "The old VHS player is a good example. That technology was refined and perfected SO much that they never broken and lived forever. Fantastic for us. Crap for Sony, etc. You bought 1 player from them and they never see you again for 20 years (ie, when it breaks)."


Actually, we usually needed to buy a new VHS player every 2 or so years as they always started jamming and or chewing up tapes =\

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My Samsung TFT monitor has lasted me since '03 and I've never had a single issue with it. My Samsung 800K Digicam has been functional since about 1999 and still is.

You've had a bad experience with one manufacturer. So what. Things have a tendency to break in the real world.

Also, how the hell do you know that this issue is caused by the monitor and not another component in your machine? It sounds very unlikely, and highly coincidental that two completely different screens (even if they are the same manufacturer) would exhibit the exact same problem twice in a row.


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Quote: "Actually, we usually needed to buy a new VHS player every 2 or so years as they always started jamming and or chewing up tapes =\"


Maybe that was when they were newer. When was that? The one I mentioned was from about 11 years ago so it's much more recent.

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I don't know for sure. After my old monitor went up in smoke and before I replaced it I had connected another monitor, and the image didn't shake with it. It didn't shake with the new one until now, either. It seems weird that another part of the computer would stop acting strange right when the monitor was switched, then start again.

Maybe there's something else messing with the monitor. Maybe something supernatural. (And I actually am serious about that)
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Samsung generally make good quality monitors. As far as I know, all Sony LCD televisions use Samsung-made panels, and I have a Samsung pc monitor which is coming up to five years old without a problem.

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Maybe that was when they were newer. When was that? The one I mentioned was from about 11 years ago so it's much more recent."


Not too long ago. We didn't even have a DVD player until about 3 years ago. VHS all the way up till then. So far our DVD/VHS combo has been lasting though.

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I got a samsung cell so hopefully that will last.
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Quote: "Maybe something supernatural. (And I actually am serious about that)"


Who ya gonna call? Ghostbusters!

From my point of view, sounds like you've got a third party problem, probably something other than the monitor causing the problem. If you really want to test it, trade monitors with a friend and see if the problem still occurs at his house. If it does, it's the monitor.

Or it could be Slimey messing with you.


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speakers near your CRT Monitor (or even a television near it) will drive your monitor mental because cathode ray tubes use magnets to move the electrons and magnets from other devices such as a speaker or TV will throw it off.

If u can try positioning those speakers further away so the printer and desktop case are in-between so shielding the monitor.

CRT replacements are cheap at the mo. you can't give them away on E-bay. i picked up a 22" Compaq CAD monster for £10

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Do you live near high tension wires? That might do something.

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You do realize that some companies make crap products just so you have to buy another one when it breaks?

Marketing strategye...

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Posted: 9th Apr 2007 17:07 Edited at: 9th Apr 2007 17:08
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Quote: "If you really want to test it, trade monitors with a friend and see if the problem still occurs at his house. If it does, it's the monitor."


The first thing I could try would be to use it with my old computer. The monitor that's connected to it now is working properly.

Quote: "speakers near your CRT Monitor (or even a television near it) will drive your monitor mental because cathode ray tubes use magnets to move the electrons and magnets from other devices such as a speaker or TV will throw it off."


I don't think that these particular speakers are causing any problems. Just to test it I held one of them directly infront of the monitor. The speaker had to be within an inch of it to make a difference to the screen, and even when it was touching it the area behind it only turned a slight green tint.

Somebody walked into the room with a car speaker before and when it was about two feet away from the monitor the whole screen turned green.

Plus I didn't have these speakers while I had the old monitor. The old speakers were at opposite sides of the shelf.

Quote: "Do you live near high tension wires? That might do something."


Nope.

Quote: "You do realize that some companies make crap products just so you have to buy another one when it breaks?
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Posted: 9th Apr 2007 18:46 Edited at: 9th Apr 2007 18:47
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Quote: "Well, my guess is that most of the monitors you buy are coming from the same place with different covers on them."


That's my understanding too. AFAIK, pretty much all TFT monitors are made by LG. Samsung, Sony etc all buy em and bolt on a few extras like speakers and switches. So it doesn't really matter who you buy it from - you're probably buying an LG. As for CRT, not sure!

You dont have big old unshielded speakers near your monitor do you? They will ruin a CRT with magnetic interference.


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I have a Samsung TFT, and I really like it. It did fail after one month but that was a display model so that might have been something to do with it.

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Headcrab, I have the same speakers you have. I have never noticed a problem with my CRT. But its a NEC....

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