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Geek Culture / Home - very cool PS3 feture!

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Gamers Gear
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Posted: 15th Apr 2007 23:51
This is, whitout a doubt, the best feture to the PS3!

I can't wait to get my hands on a PS3 now!

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCWYG2syuhI&mode=user&search=

Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8ore7INF4Q&mode=user&search=

Trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBiOUp22NLs&mode=related&search=

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 00:09 Edited at: 16th Apr 2007 00:10
ugh...

HOME = MMORPG - gameplay - fun + craploadofads

also another reason never to see the light of day again...just wait, soon sony will come out with attachments that allow you to not have to move, eat, or use the restroom ever again...hmm, this reminds me of a certain movie...

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 00:24
MMORPG? not even close buddy, I find Home to be good, the fact that you can hang out whit people all over the world (altough forums and IM exists). Also Home can also be good for company's, by the fact that can stream videos (and clans but he did say that), as well as get some cool stuff, then you beat and/or buy a game, like singstar, motorstorm or MGS4.

But we all have difrent toughts about stuff, so no flame war here.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 00:34
Looks fun

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 00:51
Yeah looks pretty tight
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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 00:52 Edited at: 16th Apr 2007 00:57
MMORPG stands for: massive multiplayer online role playing game

now, this is online, it's massive in a tense that you can interact with many other users, so, naturally it's a multiplayer...

also, it is a role playing game, becuase you play a character in this little world, that you can customize...RPG dosn't mean, crazy hair guy with a big sword slashing monsters game. RPG is role playing game, meaning you take on the role of a character. Didn't anyone play pen and paper adventures when they were younger?

Gamer's Gear: you just proved my point...HOME is a big ad....unlock clothing? might as well play the sims, more fun because you can actually kill you character if you get fed up with him, lol.

besides, I'm not flaming..i'm just saying this looks useless...you run around talking to people you don't know, and watch trailers and advertisements...i think it's stupid

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 01:06
Quote: "RPG dosn't mean, crazy hair guy with a big sword slashing monsters game."


Youre absolutly right, its just that the way you talked was kinda like: "oh wow...another MMORPG... just what we need..."

Too me Home is not another MMORPG that you mostly run around doing quests... that you mostly are not evenenjoying...

Also you can also get a trophy then you beat a game, that you later can show to freinds, got something negative to say about that?

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 01:06
Not exactly a game but.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 01:29
Wait a sec--- why would I pay money to have a virtual life where everywhere I turn there's an ad and I have to pay for anything good including a better view? This is Second Life - scripting language. I don't understand.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 01:36 Edited at: 16th Apr 2007 01:41
Quote: "why would I pay money to have a virtual life where everywhere I turn there's an ad and I have to pay for anything good including a better view?"


as i understand it, this is free whit your PS3 to download, including your house and the objects in it. however prenium items and houses is also there.

and you can't really say its a Second Life rip-off many other company's has made the same thing.

Quote: "you run around talking to people you don't know, i think it's stupid"
so you find it stupid to meet new friends? It's not like you know who your friends are at the first time meeting them.

Quote: "I'm not flaming"


And i never said that you did

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 01:48
hmm.
$600+ = ps3
$60 = game
$30(maybe?) = fake polygonal clothing..

no thanks. It sounds like a good idea, but they are really pushing the "I have lots of money to give you Sony!" idea.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 03:08 Edited at: 16th Apr 2007 03:09
I think PS 3 and home are pretty good since home is free... I wouldn't buy any additional clothes but if you think about it your going to buy that game anyways so its kool they give you some extra clothes and stuff with the game. I think it may be worth it. I have to say though PS3 is expensive its very good that they made the multiplayer free.
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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 03:09
basically all Playstation:Home is, is a VR version of Xbox Live Dashboard.

Trophey Room = Achiements
Living Room = Game/Friends Lobby
Cinema Room = Marketplace Videos

Basically most of what Microsoft offers their Live subscribers, will be mimic'd by PS:Home. Their hope is to give it that second life feel, so people hang out together and make the most of their new Playstation:Network system. Try to gain some ground on the online gaming world that Xbox for the past 5years has just dominated.

Personally I think it's waaay to much far to early.
They should really put the systems in-place to support what Home will use then expand it to 3D if people like it.
imo I'd find it irritating, but then I find the entire damn console irritating to use.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 03:38
ugh...another microsoft fanboy

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 04:04
Quote: "ugh...another microsoft fanboy"


Which makes you? An anti-microsoft fanboy. Same thing, different love. Stop trolling.

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 04:42
Wow, that looks....ummm.....lame. As if kids these days are lazy enough from video games, now they pretend they're actually living at home.

Aside from the sims-like character quality, the rest of the graphics look fairly decent.


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Quote: "Same thing, different love. Stop trolling."


....whaa??

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Posted: 16th Apr 2007 20:08
Quote: "ugh...another microsoft fanboy"


well yes, i'm a fan of microsoft; not just in this console generation but on the whole.

doesn't make anything of what i said any less true though.
online gaming is a dominating factor in any gaming platform, be that entertainment console or personal computer.

Sony know full well that part of the attraction for Xbox360 owners is their Xbox Live system. As it doesn't just allow online play, but provides a whole host of features that give people more drive not just to play online but play their games for longer.

Many of the features they're trying to impliment emulate what Microsoft have provided for years.

A good example has nothing to do with the end-users but developers (which Sony have been loosing left and right), of a simple fact that Microsoft platforms are easier to develop for. DirectX and ATL(XTL) quite frankly provide the backbone to developing anything you want on Microsoft systems.
They are very easy to use APIs that provide direct access to what developers want to access.

Sony have recently released their own version of this for the PS3 (forget it's name, but no doubt someone here will know), in an effort to make it easier to develop on and hopefully get more games to attract more users.

Every step of the way though Sony have been trying to compete directly with Microsoft's Xbox 360 in terms of features. Problem I find with Sony though is they're forcing too much on users.

For example on the XBL, I can join a party of friends from the dashboard and hop between games as a group. This is what PS:Home is intended for primarily.. thing is, with Dashboard and Live; this can be achieved in seconds. Especially with a friends list.
With Home you have to connect to the internet, connect to home, load home, then wait for each user's avatar to load, then choose the group. Sure it can be done fairly quickly once in, but having to go into a 3d environment that is "perminantly" online so to speak is irritating. It's like having to go to an online chatroom to decide what MMORPG you want to play when you're at you're PC.
Pain-in-the-arse.

The trophey room is another example, of something that is just more complicated than it has to be.

The whole console has the feel of "see what I can do better than you", it's like when you buy a nice new Widescreen with HD; and one of you're mates see it and has to get the Flatscreen version. The picture quality is no different it's all just for show.

And here'in is really the issue I have with Home more than anything. It's not that they're copying features from Xbox Live, because personally I think it's about bloody time the Playstation had a decent network and friends system (*bitter PS2 NetPlay talking here*) .. just why the hell does it have to be 3D?
Why can't it be an extension of XMB?

More to the point is why the hell does every damn system on the PS3 force you to use JUST that system. If I want to talk to friends online, I have to drop out of the game I'm in; and use that stupid "keyword" system then boot it back up.
If i want to show off to my mates what new achiements I have, no doubt I'll have to load up home.. boast about it a bit, then restart the game we were playing.
Accessing pictures, playing movies, playing music.. it all is very seperated when really if that feature is there I want to be able to access them very quickly and easily.

One of the biggest gripes people have about XBL is that you can't watch videos as they download, or if you're playing a game on XBL no matter how much bandwidth you have you can't background download. These are being changed soon, because Microsoft listen to user complaints.

Sony are just trying to emulate, and not very well. Seriously if someone are going to incorporate similar systems; atleast make them AS feature rich, not like some watered down Tesco own-brand variation.

I mean something people boast about the PS3 is "free online play", but seriously.. you get what you pay for, and some of the best XBL features are actually those you can use on the free silver account.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 01:23
I'd much rather go out drinking with my mates. This is a program for people who don't have any probably.

The only time i will get a PS3 is when Little big planet comes out AND the price drops by at least half on the console itself.

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Quote: "Sony are just trying to emulate, and not very well. Seriously if someone are going to incorporate similar systems; atleast make them AS feature rich, not like some watered down Tesco own-brand variation."

Interesting. All the independant reviewers I have seen interviews with (e.g Gamer.TV) have said that the PS3 has all of the capabilities of Microsofts Live, plus lots more - and of course for no monthly fee. They definately said it was better (their words not mine).

And when it comes to one company copying another, lets not forget who saw whos gaming console success and decided to cash in by sticking a PC in a box and selling it as a console
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Quote: "All the independant reviewers I have seen interviews with (e.g Gamer.TV) have said that the PS3 has all of the capabilities of Microsofts Live, plus lots more - and of course for no monthly fee. They definately said it was better (their words not mine)."


Can you provide some links to "all" these independent reviewers?

Quote: "lets not forget who saw whos gaming console success and decided to cash in by sticking a PC in a box and selling it as a console"


Pretty much every console is a "PC in a box". Or are you saying it just because it ran on an Intel CPU? Not a compelling argument there.

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Quote: "Interesting. All the independant reviewers I have seen interviews with (e.g Gamer.TV) have said that the PS3 has all of the capabilities of Microsofts Live, plus lots more - and of course for no monthly fee"

Xbox live is far more superior than PS3... online.

Yes, your major argument for any Playstation fanboy is that PS3 online is free. You seem to overlook the fact that they state companies will charge their own rate on the games you play online. Giving the current monthly fees of most online PC games, you'd be paying a lot to play at least 1 game, whereas with the 360, you can play any game you like. Also the probable equivalent of PS3 online will be Xbox live Silver.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 09:51
No matter what I buy, either being a XBOX or PS3, ill always go back to my PC.

That guy also said 'urm' too many times.
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Quote: "Can you provide some links to "all" these independent reviewers?"

No. I 'saw' these interviews because they were on several television programmes. I guess snippets might be on YouTube but I am sure you can search for these yourself if you are interested.
Its all personal opinions so I'll bet you can find many people who prefer either online service if you look.
Quote: "Pretty much every console is a "PC in a box". Or are you saying it just because it ran on an Intel CPU? Not a compelling argument there."

I was refering to the original XBox. I didn't think anyone could argue that it wasn't just PC hardware in a big noisy black box. Of course you could argue if you wanted to, but I am sure you would be in a minority. I am not knocking it - I mean its certainly a fast way to get a console tested and out on the shelves but it wasn't exactly new technology. At the end of the day it was a fast way to enter a market they saw a lot of money being made in.
Quote: "You seem to overlook the fact that they state companies will charge their own rate on the games you play online."

Possibly, but usually the cost of online play is included in the original cost of the game (historically speaking) so there isn't any additional outlay once you have bought it. Thats gotta beat paying a monthly fee, especially if you take a break from gaming for a month or two (as I sometimes do) to work on other things.
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Quote: "I was refering to the original XBox. I didn't think anyone could argue that it wasn't just PC hardware in a big noisy black box."


I know that, and so was I But what I want to know is, why is the original Xbox considered a "PC in a box" and others aren't? I understand that it ran on a 733MHz Pentium CPU and had a hard drive and Nvidia video card. But frankly, consoles without hard drives are in the minority now, and pretty much every console uses an Nvidia or ATI card. The Intel CPU is just another brand of CPU (as opposed to IBM or Motorola).

Actually, the fact that it was an Intel x86 CPU made it easier for companies to begin developing their games, even without dev kits. Whatever your argument is, I'm not getting it.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 18:22
Only thing why i buy PS3 is Final Fantasy (Cant live without it..) and Kingdom Hearts.. If they were made for other console then i just buy that one Otherwise i stay on my PC



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Posted: 19th Apr 2007 04:41
Looks cool, but it still doesn't change that the PS3 costs the price of a PC.
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I made a thread about Home a while back, I think it looks pretty neat. I've kept an ear on this in the PSU and from what I've heard so far, items for your house will be pretty cheap. I can't remember where I heard it, but somewhere I read they were going to be 99 cents each, and many could be unlocked with achievements in SOE games, but for the life of me I can't recall where or when I heard that, so don't hold me to it lol. On the whole though it looks pretty cool. And it's free, too, always a plus. Sure they'll load it with ads, but I highly doubt it's going to be as bad as everyone thinks it will be. Companies will have in-game stores and whatnot that you can go and visit, and from everything I've seen and read, these stores will be in little virtual districts... it's not like your virtual home is going to be on the second floor above the Ragu store. Home is clever, the ads will pay for server usage instead of users, and it ads another dimension of interaction for PS3 users. I'm all for it.


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Posted: 19th Apr 2007 18:42
I like to go outside and meet real people instead of over the internet

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Xbox 360 will keep me going.

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