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Geek Culture / You may be married to a rock.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 07:43 Edited at: 17th Apr 2007 07:44
This of course depends upon the fact that you are not married at all. Due to the complexity of the idea I shall attempt to portray, I shall state my logic in three different formats: first English, then proof format, and finally in C++ syntax.

English:
If you are not presently married to anybody, then the statement that you are married to somebody is false, and the opposite must be true; the opposite of "anybody" is "nobody". So we have established that the identity behind the title "your spouse" is "nobody".
Examine now the identity of a rock. A rock does not register legally or logically as having the identity of "anybody", but can however be accurately identified as "nobody".
We have now established that the identities of "your spouse" and a rock are both "nobody".
In a hypothetical situation in which you actually happen to be married to somebody, then that somebody can be identified by the identity held by the title "your spouse". If "your spouse" happens to hold the identity of either "George" or "Emma", then depending on which identity that title holds your spouse is either George or Emma.
We have now established that in order for somebody to be your spouse, their identity must match the identity held by the title "your spouse".
Seeing as you are not married to anybody, and are therefor married to "nobody", then you are married to whoever holds the identity of "nobody"; in this instance, it happens to be a rock.
We have now established that you are married to a rock.


Proof format:
Your Spouse = a rock ---To Prove
Your Spouse = "nobody"; a rock = "nobody" ---Given
Your Spouse and a rock both = "nobody" ---Definition of marriage
Your Spouse = a rock ---Substitution


C++ syntax:




Using this logic, you may also find that you have plenty of rock children, or may possibly be married to one million dollars instead of a rock.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 07:51
Nice...


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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 08:02
Thanks. After having sorted this out, I can now understand what that old man was doing holding a knife to a stump and yelling "I'll kill your son if you don't give me $50!!"

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 11:50 Edited at: 17th Apr 2007 11:52
So, you're saying:

Spouse=nobody
Rock=nobody
therefore Spouse=Rock.


The flaw in the logic is in using '='. Rather than '=', you should actually be saying 'is part of the set whose elements have the property...'. So, stricktly speaking:

NOBODY = {name of spouse, name of rock .....}

Spouse is part of the set NOBODY
Rock is part of the set NOBODY

....and being members of the same set does not make them equal to one another.

Sorry - theory disproved!

Here's a better proof that Spouse=Rock


Let's start with:
spouse - rock = spouse - rock ... must be true as both sides are identical

Multiply both sides by (spouse - rock):
(spouse - rock)(spouse - rock) = (spouse - rock)(spouse - rock)

Write out the multiplication:
spouse^2 - 2.spouse.rock + rock^2 = spouse(spouse-rock) - rock(spouse-rock)

Rearranging all, we get:
spouse^2 - spouse.rock - spouse(spouse-rock) = spouse.rock - rock^2 - rock(spouse-rock)

Factorize both sides:
spouse(spouse - rock - (spouse-rock)) = rock(spouse - rock - (spouse-rock))

Therefore, by cancelling the common factor:
spouse = rock





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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 13:07
einstien did not have red hair
i do not have red hair

therefore
i am einstien

by your logic.



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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 13:11
Therefore, you are also dead Pricey. How's that going for you?

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 13:41
Logic = Illogical


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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 13:57
Quote: "Therefore, you are also dead Pricey. How's that going for you?"


Hehe, nice Kentaree!

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 16:22
i am not dead.
i am sexy.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 16:26
Quote: "You may be married to a rock."

Are you trying to draw attention away from the fact that you are married to an inflatable doll?


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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 17:32 Edited at: 17th Apr 2007 17:39
Don't be silly I am married to a dollar. an inflatable dollar yes... but a dollar nonetheless.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 17:45
Quote: "i am sexy."


Hence you're saying Einstein is sexy, and hence you're admitting... Nah, wont go there

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 19:03
Some reason I thought this was about something my friend told me of ealier, a boy in an Asian country, I forgot the name of (I'm terrible with names), was forced to marry a mountain to lift a curse off of his mother.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 19:57
That's sad, marry someone just to take advantage of them. Surely it wasn't about love.....what happened? Did they break up as soon as the curse was lifted?

Quote: "an inflatable dollar"


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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 20:21
Uhm, how can you take advantage of a mountain? On second thoughts, don't answer that...

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Hence you're saying Einstein is sexy"


exactly

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Posted: 17th Apr 2007 21:36
Quote: "Uhm, how can you take advantage of a mountain?"


A life supply of free spring water? Rather than that chemical purified rubbish you get through the tap.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 00:14
You mean the fluoride? They say it's good for you, but then again the same "experts" say mercury is good for the brain.......

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Some experts say drinking your urine and eating your faeces is healthy, others say it isn't. I say, eew. I'm sure flouride is good for you in minute amounts, its in the same column as Iodine and Chlorine on the period table, so I wouldn't just feed on the stuff.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 00:33
Well i'm definetively no expert, but it worries me when i figured out the nazis used fluoride in the water to supress their prisoners, keep them docile and unable to think all to well. Also fluoride has a negative effect on the immune system and slows down the bodys metabolition.

I don't know the quantity needed for the varius effects, but i'll stay on the safe side and avoid fluoride for the time being. except when i need my teeth brushed ofcourse.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 00:41
Quote: "Are you trying to draw attention away from the fact that you are married to an inflatable doll"


So having a blow up doll for a wife is not normal?


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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 00:46
With tooth paste, I think the flouride is in a compound, it wouldn't have the same effect, I mean table salt doesn't suddenly go crazy when you put it in water like magnesium or sodium, shame that would be fun.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 01:06
as long as you don't eat your toothpaste, I think you'll be okay.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 01:07 Edited at: 18th Apr 2007 01:08
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Yep, which is why i still use it to brush my teeth. Anyways, i don't want to drag this further, we might end up talking about why reality programs is still hot on TV and why the queen wears prada some posts away from now. In other words......yeah, you guessed it.


Quote: "as long as you don't eat your toothpaste, I think you'll be okay."


lol, i'm not supposed to eat it?

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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 01:11
Quote: "With tooth paste, I think the flouride is in a compound, it wouldn't have the same effect"

Well you're not supposed to swallow it.

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Since when has anyone do what they're supposed to? If the toothpaste that we have at the moment weren't so disgusting, I'd down the whole tube right now to make some sort of point.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 01:19
The compound is Fluorine -> fluoride + fluoride.


I like Ric's explanation

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Quote: "Since when has anyone do what they're supposed to?"

Since people with brains used proper grammar. If you go directly against a warning and do something for the sake of it, you have no common sense.

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My little brother ate a good deal of toothpaste once, we called poison control. They said we should only worry if he ate close to a whole tube. I'd guess you'd have to eat alot more as an adult to kill yourself, but it's still dangerous and not good for you.

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mmm..toothpaste.
I wondered why they made citrus flavors...

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Quote: "The compound is Fluorine -> fluoride + fluoride."

Not quite right. Fluorine in nature occurs as a binary molecule, F2. It is a halogen, and highly reactive.

The stuff in drinking water is Calcium Fluoride, CaF2, just called fluoride for simplicity. Fluorine itself, and many of its compounds, are highly dangerous to humans. In addition to causing chemical burns, it can cause nasty permanent damage if not death. I recall a case where a kid came in contact with some and the fluorine began bonding with all of the calcium in his hand.


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Quote: "If you go directly against a warning and do something for the sake of it, you have no common sense."


Surely if everyone did such things, then "common sense" wouldn't be so common anymore?


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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 18:15
People used to have it, although it seems to be a bit rare these days, especially when it comes to college professors (at least in my area).

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[edit] nvm

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I'm not married. Put that in your hat and eat it.


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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 18:25
Oh my, look who tried to appear smart by not reading anything on the whole thread.

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Me= Living
Cat= Living
therfore I=Cat

also... when i was like five i used to eat toothpaste and sometimes i'd go through half a tube and by the time i'd finished toothpaste would taste bad and my throat would taste weird

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Quote: "Since people with brains used proper grammar. If you go directly against a warning and do something for the sake of it, you have no common sense."


So people just like me then.

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Quote: "So people just like me then."

I swear that every time you post my impression of you just gets better and better.

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Posted: 18th Apr 2007 22:11
Sometimes I like to be foolish, sometimes more intelligent than that, if people think my posts are dumb, either they need to lighten up a bit, or I'm posting things not considering the internet doesn't convey tone or body language.

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Posted: 19th Apr 2007 04:09
It does when you use

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Posted: 20th Apr 2007 18:58
I don't know how a discussion about how your spouse is a rock turned into a discussion about toothpaste... but that's just life.


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Gates = Male

E.D. = Male

Gates = Rich at 25

therefore E.D. = Rich at 25.

I'm looking forward to that age.

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Posted: 20th Apr 2007 19:15 Edited at: 20th Apr 2007 19:26
It's that type of reasoning that sparked the idea of fuzzy logic.

For many things (if not everything) [lol] in our world can not be represented by digital logic (1 or 0) (True or Not True)

Things tend to become fuzzy inbeween A and ~A (not A)
Sometime A and ~A are both equally True or both equally False.

For when an apple is being eaten... at which point is it no longer an apple?

Surely before the first bite it's rating/percentage is much higher likelyhood of being an apple, and at some point of being eaten it's still an apple; even if a half an apple.

As it is continually being eaten it's rating/percentage of being an apple is less. Until it is completely devoured, at which point it can be further argued...

What apple? No apple? Mushed up apple parts being digested but still an apple? Mushed up apple parts being excreted with other parts, but still an apple? etc...

Same thing goes for where your molecules end, and where the air around you begins. At some point it becomes fuzzy, where it's a lot like your skin, and a lot like the air.

The fact that you can infinitely move towards something, albeit at an infinitely slower & slower rate, and never actually reach it. Hence, Calculus and taking the limit.

It is difficult if not impossible for a digital model to accurately reflect an analog world, regardless of how close it comes. It's still a sample of a longer spectrum of things. The higher the sampling rate, the better the results, but Not quite exact replication. Hence the fact that no matter how good the digital reproduction of something, it fails to meet the full spectrum of the analog reference. Unless of course the analog reference is merely a digital sample? That begs to be investigated further, I believe. LOL!

You'd really have a lot of fun reading about fuzzy logic and fuzzy sets. It nearly drives my brain as crazy as Relativity, and tinkerings of Paradozxes and Infinity. Read the book Infinity and the mind, to truly go on a strange trip. And see if it doesn't shake up all that you ever thought you knew for sure?
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Posted: 20th Apr 2007 19:41
The one I like is about a boat.
This boat is in bad condition so the builders start replacing the pieces bit by bit. Before they know it they have replaced everything on it and so decide to use the discarded pieces to build another identical boat.

The question is. Which is the original boat?

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Well put Oraculaca. Better than my apple example. I came across a similar one in my readings on fuzzy logic. Wish I would have used that example, but the apple one is always the first to come to mind. As it was the first example in the course, and from the first week on my mind started to get overloaded. To the point I was questioning everything. Even questions themselves?

Philisophical:
Q: Is this a question?
A: If this is an answer!

Getting back to mere existance...

String theory (related):
Imagine that I give you a chair, while explaining that the legs are still missing, and that the seat, back and armrest will perhaps be delivered soon; whatever I did give you, can I still call it a chair?

Philisophical:
A philosophy professor walks in to give his class their final. Placing his chair on his desk the professor instructs the class, "Using every applicable thing you've learned in this course, prove to me that this chair DOES NOT EXIST."

So, pencils are writing and erasers are erasing, students are preparing to embark on novels proving that this chair doesn't exist, except for one student. He spends thirty seconds writing his answer, then turns his final in to the astonishment of his peers.

Time goes by, and the day comes when all the students get their final grades...and to the amazment of the class, the student who wrote for thirty seconds gets the highest grade in the class.

His answer to the question: "What chair?"

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