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Geek Culture / If you can watch Horizon tonight

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Tom J
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Posted: 1st May 2007 22:27
It is on at 9:00 on one of the BBC channels and it is about the Large Hadron Collider, it is a scientific experiment to recreate the big bang on a small scale and create the crucial "God Particle" that is apparently going to give us a lot of information about the universe. But there is the small risk of creating a black hole or Strangelets in the process, it looks like it is going to be good so if you are able to, it should be something good to watch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/broadband/tx/universe/

Peter H
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Posted: 1st May 2007 22:29
wait... i was never asked if they could risk my life with this experiment...

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Posted: 1st May 2007 22:33
Interesting, might catch that one, if someone hasn't found something they'd rather want to watch downstairs, but then most evenings we watch science/nature/history programs anyway.

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Posted: 1st May 2007 22:43 Edited at: 1st May 2007 22:47
Exactly!

Didn't they make a computer game about this on the Amiga some years ago called er.. um.. Another World?



then it got remade on the PC



listen to the game you crazy scientists it's not gona be good!



Ooops!

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Posted: 1st May 2007 22:45 Edited at: 1st May 2007 22:46
I guess i have to take a peek also. Always nice to learn about our origin.

Edit: oh i like that game. It's also for DOS and SNES.

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Tom J
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Posted: 1st May 2007 23:00
Peter H, If the world suddenly gets consumed by a Black Hole then you know who to blame

GatorHex, it's a warning but then again the atomic (or whatever) scientists probably haven't heard of it.

Seppuku, hopefully you'll be able to watch it

Woops, got to go, it starts in a minute

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Posted: 1st May 2007 23:23
well, 9:00 has come and gone and they haven't blown up the universe yet! lol.... *universe implodes* aaaagggghhh!


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hessiess
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Posted: 1st May 2007 23:53
like usaral, it was a verry interesting program. hope the lhc proovs somthing, whatever it turns out to be.

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Posted: 1st May 2007 23:55
aww they're not doing the particle accelerator thing yet, damn, I want them to make a black hole by accident, even if it'll be so small it'll vapourise quickly as they said, well nevertheless it was pretty interesting. Nice to know we can see so far out in the universe.

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Peter H
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Posted: 2nd May 2007 02:00
they said over the course of 10 years the chance is one in 50,000,000

so chances are it won't happen the first time they turn it on...

though i was a little unnerved by the guy giving that tour,
"We really have no idea what's going to happen when we turn it on."

very scientific lol!

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Posted: 2nd May 2007 02:28 Edited at: 2nd May 2007 02:30
The chance of winning the loto are 14,000,000 : 1 yet somone wins pretty much every week!

50million aint such good odds! 3.5 weeks of runtime before we get sucked into a blackhole then

A lecturer said to me that his wife works in nuclear saftey and that the odds of a disaster were like 1 in a 1000 years. I replied "you should tell your wife we've had two already in only 50 years! Long Island and Chenobil"

Didn't somone once say "there are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics!"

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Peter H
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Posted: 2nd May 2007 02:32 Edited at: 2nd May 2007 02:33
Quote: "A lecturer said to me that his wife works in nuclear saftey and that the odds of a disaster were like 1 in a 1000 years. I replied "you should tell your wife we've had two already in only 50 years! Long Island and Chenobil"

Didn't somone once say there was lies, damn lies and then there are statistics!"



if you look at what actually happened at Chernobyl you will see it was basically on purpose

All automatic safety "shut-offs" disabled
Control rods removed
Monitoring through sensors at the top of the tank when the reaction was at the bottom
yep, setup for disaster here...

from what i hear the long island accident was also basically on purpose (a "experiment") and didn't release significant amounts of radiation into populations or anything. (again, just what i hear)

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Posted: 2nd May 2007 02:45
"It was on purpose".... erm they were running a safty drill

It's like my Uni they run so many safty fire drills that when we get a real one we all just sit there

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Posted: 4th May 2007 07:22
I don't wanna die for science

zenassem
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Posted: 4th May 2007 07:44 Edited at: 4th May 2007 07:55
I live on Long Island (in the town of Brookhaven), where Brookhaven National Lab. has been doing this , albeit I think ours is smaller now, with RHIC for as long as I can remember.

I've actually been there to see it. It's about 10-15 minutes away from my house. I remember everyone being scared that they would create a black hole.


BTW, did I mention that "Video games" started here!






Gold hits Gold:


And here's the room I had the Computer Science Club Visit when I was President. The Linux Farm!

The Linux Wall:


This goes on Row after Row after Row...:


And in 2004:


hessiess
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Posted: 4th May 2007 22:13
that computer must be extremly powerfall, any perticular resen why it runs linux? dident know it worked on super computers.

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Posted: 4th May 2007 22:53 Edited at: 4th May 2007 23:00
@hessies,

You can read, or take a guided tour, see more Pics, Get all the software/Hardware details HERE!

Linux FARM

I don't remember all the details, as I did ask the same question when I visite. I believe the answer was someting like this:


1. Being a National Lab, and offering their research, servers, applications, computing resources, to the entire world's scientific community; They went with an OS that is as stable as UNIX and "free" to scientist and citizens around the world.

2. I believe (trying to find the article) that at the time the head of the RHIC computing facility was heavily involved in developing Red Hat Linux.

So I think the equation went something like this:

"Cost Effectiveness" + "Cheap Licensing" + "Power" + "Stability" + "Open-Source" + "Customization" + "Availibilty to the world's scientific community" + "Nerds Love Linux" = Linux Wall

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Welcome to the RACF Computing Facility at the Brookhaven National Laboratory (BNL).
The facility provides computing services for the experiments at the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (RHIC) at BNL, the US-based collaborators in the ATLAS experiment at the Large Hadron Collider at CERN, and the collaborators in the Large Synoptic Survey Telescope project.

The major components of the RACF are the 14 TFLOPS processing farm (currently with over 4000 processors), the distributed and centralized disk storage farm (1 PB of on-line disk storage), the robotic tape storage silos (7 PB of storage) and the grid computing software infrastructure. The hardware is a combination of commodity-based processing servers, enterprise-class UNIX servers and highly-specialized mass storage systems connected together by a high-speed network infrastructure.

Since its establishment in the 1990's, the RACF has grown to its current level of 36 staff members. The combined RACF staff operates and manages, year-round, a heterogeneous, large-scale multi-purpose facility, serving a worldwide community of about 2,400 (and growing) users, while continuously innovating and addressing the ever-changing computing requirements of our user base.



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Note:
The BNL Physics/Computer Department is very generous in sharing with anyone who shows an interest. And I mean that literally. These people will go to great lengths to explain anything and everything you wish to know. They don't talk down to you, and have a way of bringing things to whatever level of education you have.

On my visit with the Computer Science Club (We weren't Physics Majors), most of engineers even went to lunch with us (on their time) to talk about video games. A few came to our Club Meeting on campus a month later, to see the projects we were working on and to get free pizza!

BTW: They liked DBC!!!!

In many ways they are a lot like us here, they are truly passionate about what they do, and are willing to offer help to anyone who wants to learn.

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Posted: 4th May 2007 23:35
Did this program mention the world's most expensive hole in Texas? The one that the US government scrapped because they decided, in their infinite wisdom as politicians, that quarks weren't really important?

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