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Geek Culture / Ermm... Where do you plug in 3d glasses?

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Person99
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Posted: 9th May 2007 08:48 Edited at: 9th May 2007 09:02
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Sorry... But I just found some Elsa 3d glasses lying around, and they have a port that looks like a mouse or keyboard one... But I have no idea how to plug it in.

I remember playing Quake III with them, and I dodged a rocket, and the 3d glasses kept them running at me... And I want to try it with F.E.A.R (I know, I am insane).

But I can't remember where or even how to plug them in.
They are in great condition, not even dusty.

My video card is an ATI Radeon 9700 pro.

I am not afraid of having to get drivers... Plus, I have to figure out how to plug them in first.

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zenassem
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Posted: 9th May 2007 08:50
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I guess it would S-Video out???

Don't those goggles make you get nausea?

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Posted: 9th May 2007 08:54 Edited at: 9th May 2007 08:58
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Quote: "
Don't those goggles make you get nausea?"

You bet it. I once was playing Flight Simulator with those, and I almost puked on my keyboard.
If you have motion sickness problems, you will take them off when you see something move on your desktop.

These glasses are old, but they are like an Amega sound card.
Both items are way to good for their time. The Amega sound card is still the best yet, and it was made in the 1980s.
The glasses are now used in some theatres and 3d movies.

I am trying to figure out how to get these working.

Plus, 3d glasses would be a blast with DBPro.

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Posted: 9th May 2007 09:01
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I have a lazy-left-eye so my perception isn't that great. My eye doesn't drift at all, but it doesn't focus right so basically my brain ignores it (except for some periperal vision) and lets my right eye dominate.

So old 3D movies (the red & blue glasses) used to suck for me, but for some reason the newer 3D technology I am able to enjoy like everyone else. Don't know why that is, but I can finally see 3D movies.

Another dissapointment are those computer generated prints that allow people to see 3D objects. It's a no-go for me.

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All of my body is equal. Both eyes see the same, and I am both left-handed and right-handed for everything. So the glasses really work well for me.

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Posted: 9th May 2007 09:07
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Well i looked up your graphics card and it says it supports S-Video:

Display Support
VGA connector for analog CRT
S-video or composite connector for TV / VCR
DVI-I connector for digital CRT or flat panel
Independent resolutions and refresh rates for any two connected displays

So did it work?

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Posted: 9th May 2007 09:33 Edited at: 9th May 2007 09:38
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I still can't figure out how to plug it in.

The little plug-in thing by where you plug in the monitor cable is about a 9 pin, the 3d glasses are only a 3 pin.

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Posted: 9th May 2007 09:54 Edited at: 9th May 2007 10:03
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Ok, I looked up the Elsa Revelator's and I see now it uses a 3pin DIN connector. I'm still reading but I'm trying to figure out what cards have this. Right now it's saying tnt2 cards. Honestly i've never heard of this connection.

Here's the link I'm at

It seems you need an adpater. What kind I'm not sure yet, I'm assuming to DIN-3 to a DB9...

Quote: "It works with two kinds of graphics boards:

1) ELSA consumer boards (Erazor 2/3, Victory 2, Winner 2)

2) Boards with stereo-connector, i.e. DIN-3, DIN-5, DIN-7, DB9 and 3.5 mm. For all connectors apart from DIN-3 you'll have to look for a proper adaptor.
Special stereo-drivers for your graphics card are obligatory. This isn't in the hands of the glasses manufacturer. Ask your graphics hardware vendor for stereo-driver support. There may be lacking driver support even if there's a dedicated stereo-connector on the board!!! The ELSA Revelator Direct3D drivers won't work on such boards. "


Very confusing, why make glasses so incompatible??? But I see homebrew conversions to get them working on an Nvidia board, but nothing specific to ATI. Here's the Homebrew link.

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haha. Old skool technology! Off-topic, but this reminds me of my Interactor rumble vest thing I bought years back. Probably from the same era as your glasses. Basically, it's a subwoofer in backpack. You strap it to yourself and get beasted by stomach churning bass vibrations until you either get heart palpations or you vomit. Good stuff.


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Posted: 9th May 2007 14:16
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@Fallout,

LOL! I learned alot of C++ game programming from Andre Lamothes books. But I always laughed at the picture on the back of him wearing that thing. EGM's last issue had some of the wacky devices over the years.

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Posted: 9th May 2007 14:19
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I remember I bought it on discount. A returned item, if I remember correctly. I wonder why!


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Posted: 9th May 2007 22:21
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Those glasses were supplied with Elsa GFX cards - which were nVidia-based and used the stereo option in the nVidia driver.

I have a pair too - in a nice grey Elsa badged bag.

By the sounds of it, you don't have the splitter 'Y' cable that came with it and plugs into the VGA connector of your GFX card. This gives you a second VGA connector for your monitor - and the 3 pin glasses connector.

Even if you had it though, a) your ATI card driver is unlikely to support stereo mode and b) even if you had an nVidia card, I'm pretty sure stereo glasses support was dropped a good few driver revisions ago...

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Person99
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Posted: 9th May 2007 22:24
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Crap. Do 3d glasses still exist in the market for computers?

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Posted: 10th May 2007 19:28
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Yeah. I think there's wireless ones.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Posted: 11th May 2007 16:29 Edited at: 11th May 2007 16:32
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", I'm pretty sure stereo glasses support was dropped a good few driver revisions ago..."

not so, nvidia still strongly supported the stereo drivers right up until vista popped out and made them redivert driver dev staff.
The stereo drivers on nvidia's site work right up to the 7950, even in sli. the 8000 series doesn't support stereo and as far as i am aware it is only for xp and linux.
[edit]but as soon as vista is sorted i'm pretty sure they weill be back to working on tjen for the 8000 series and vista[/edit]

there's 3/4 main 3d display methods just now, and nvidia supports all of them:
anaglyph (red/cyan colour split, you need the red/cyan glasses to view this)
lcd shutter glasses, these are what i think you have, they basically render alternate frames (or lines but this only works with crt displays) and shut off each eye in sync with the display.
polarised display, where the display is actually 2 displays, polarised at 90 degrees to each other and you were glasses with polarised lenses, (works a bit like the shutter glasses but better because there is no flicker)

there is also a system which works like those funny cards you get in cereal packets that show 2 different pictures depending on the angle, a filter is fitted to the screen that makes alternate columes/lines only viewable from angles off centre to the left / right (alternating) so when you are directly in front each eye sees it's own version of the screen. a bit like the polarising glasses without glasses.

imho the polarised version is the best because it works from all angles, has no colour distortion when configured right, and has the full resolution.

i'm a cheapskate so the anaglyph method is my option, at £5 for 5 on ebay it's worth it even just to try if you have an nvidia card.

ati on the other hand has no stereo support without 3rd party stereo drivers.

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