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Geek Culture / Is 'Apollo' made from php and mysql?

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Xenocythe
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Posted: 20th May 2007 19:05
Just a small question, and probably a very stupid one. If this is true, then I was wondering if adding 'marquee' as bbcode to my website will slow it down too much? Because my forums are made from php and mysql.

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Posted: 20th May 2007 19:07
ooohhh k
why does that really matter, and marquee isn't even on these forums..

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Xenocythe
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Posted: 20th May 2007 19:56
Im asking if adding the marquee command to my websiet forums in bbcode will make it slower. Say theres marquee in about every thread. Wouldn't that slow it down bigtime?

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Posted: 20th May 2007 20:30
no. Marquee is an html command and has no affect on the load time, besides adding 1 more line to parse and one more output to process.

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Posted: 20th May 2007 21:17
People stopped using Marquee in 1997. Are you sure you want to use that?

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My teacher didn't.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Your teacher should take his PC back to PC World...

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Marquee is definitely one of those tags that has been shunned from web design for a while. among others are blink, the marching ants one, and using tables and frames for layout and presentation. i wouldn't be surprised if they'd even been deprecated along with <center> and others. although the deprecation of <center> really pisses me off, i hate having to use an inline style just to have something centered on the page.

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 20th May 2007 22:52
@Night Giant - the reason that's happened does make a LOT of sense when you look at web design on a larger scale. Yeah - if you're throwing together a static HTML page for a single use, its slightly annoying... But imagine you have complete separation of content and presentation - how annoying would it be for you to have something centred when you might not want it to be centred for an alternative design (the <center> tag would be forcing it into the middle, unlike anything else of its "type")? You'd THEN have to implement rules specifically in that design which forces any element inside a <center> element to be left/right/justified.

The thing that annoys me about marquee/ant/blink and all those other effects is that they're just plain annoying and don't add anything to viewer pleasure/experience. Moving things will always draw your eye - so if you're trying to read something then a moving block of text will eventually get on your nerves. Plus - again - its combining presentation with content.

Unfortunately, the annoyance of marquee has been replaced by people using flash in entirely inappropriate places. If I ever go to a website which is entirely made of flash - it just gets closed straight away and I do without whatever it was I went to that site for (unless its 100% necessary). Flash menu's tend to get a similar response from me, depending on my mood. There is NO need for a flash menu whatsoever, the same effect can be achieved without flash and if it cant - ITS A MENU, NOT A GAME!

I, for one, am glad there is no marquee BBCode in this forum.

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Xenocythe
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Posted: 20th May 2007 23:09

Good point guys.

But I added it to my site, and everyone seems to love marquee


I'll just keep it for the fun of it. So it doesn't look horrible and messy, I limited it to 1 marquee line per post. Thats the best I can do.


Thank you for answering my question everyone.

Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 20th May 2007 23:29 Edited at: 20th May 2007 23:29
Quote: "But I added it to my site, and everyone seems to love marquee"


Says something about your visitors/lusers

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Xenocythe
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Posted: 21st May 2007 00:37


You just called Diggsey a 'luser'.

And about 10 other people.

Yeah thats not many members

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Posted: 21st May 2007 02:38
in my defence, I did give you a choice... Visitor/luser... You both seemed to CHOSE 'luser'. I wonder what that says... lol

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Xenocythe
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Posted: 22nd May 2007 05:10
Haha.

Now now, be nice.


Anyways, the new skin by BiggAdd is up !!!! It looks great, if I must say so myself.

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Posted: 22nd May 2007 06:24
I'm assuming you haven't looked at the skin in IE6 yet. (see attached)


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Xenocythe
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Posted: 22nd May 2007 06:29
I'll have to show that to my websites coder...

Wait, thats an old version of IE right?

If it is, why are you using it? Heck, why are you not using Firefox?


If its not an old version.. then I guess he thought he had it looking the same in Firefox and IE, but I guess he was wrong.

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Posted: 22nd May 2007 06:52
If you're not catering for all of IE5+ & FF1+, then you're missing out on about 60% of visitors.

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Nicholas Thompson
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The best program I've found for cross browser testing for IE is MultipleIE.

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@Xeno: The majority of people I know still use IE6

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Nick, yeah, I've had Multiple IE installed for quite a while now - It's quick and easy to test for all browsers rather than using the old method of online renderers

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Posted: 23rd May 2007 06:14
IE7 is only available for XP and Vista, of which I have neither. And I still prefer IE over FF.


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Posted: 23rd May 2007 22:31
My site coder said that he got it working for IE5+ and FF.

Would you mind testing it and seeing if you had the same issues?

Thanks.

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