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Geek Culture / How is your website managed?

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Three Score
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2007 23:53
I'm wondering how you people manage your websites..(do updating, adding pages, ect.)
like do you just use notepad and manually edit the html files? or do you use some content management like Frontpage? or do you have some custom system you whipped up with php or the likes?

I use a php system. I seperate content and formatting also, I have a template file, then php files that set some parameters and then the template file is included to display it right..and then I have my actual text content just standalone..makes for very easy to change my website display... like
http://earlz.biz.tm/index.php and then look at http://earlz.biz.tm/news.txt

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Sergey K
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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 00:11
you know that u can manage your website now from dbp's coding.. (and u can do it via notepad or whatever you want)

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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 00:13
dbps coding?
you mean the dbp IDE?

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Sergey K
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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 00:16
erm..
well, lets say u got an http server that dbp opened, and all what ya need to do is just run your ip address to open the website..

now, anything that you puted into the addressbar (e.g http://127.0.0.1/Hello) you will be able to control it via dbp as:
if AddressBar = "Hello" then SendMsg("Hello to you too").

or do the same in notepad..

if Addressbaar = "Hello" then ReadNotePadAndSend("MyNotePad")

or whatever.. =/
but something like that..

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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 00:19
I don't really understand how that works..
do you mean a DBP http server? and is this a plugin, or native to dbp?

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Sergey K
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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 00:19 Edited at: 4th Jun 2007 00:23
well, maybe its html only, but making it work with dbp support, it could be even better than any mysql/php or any other stuff that you know

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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 00:23
yes i meant that dbp plugin..

and it works really easy.. lol.
its even easyer than any multiplayer plugins (and all what ya have to do is reciavle and send back)

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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 00:26
hmmm..that's pretty cool..I don't know better than php..and mysql is database, not server...

whoever made that plugin stumbled onto a really great idea..
(I'm not completely for sure if dbp is best for server, but still..)

makes me wish there was a simple library for a server in C/C++...

btw, what is the name of that and does it support sending http headers?(if you could send an http header, you could technically support any filetype by sending mime info)

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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 01:28
I write all my own CMS software for myself and customers. I write them in PHP and MySQL (unless they really do require ASP and MS-SQL which I dislike). Its soooo much more efficient, faster and more stable than anything that a DBPro plugin could manage. Especially as you can install Apache, PHP and MySQL easily on your own Windows machines with premade packages like PHPDEV and WAMP.
I actually considered writing a HTTP server plugin for DBPro recently myself, but didn't think anyone would actually find it useful. How strange.
Matt Rock
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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 01:32 Edited at: 4th Jun 2007 01:32
Unlike others, I have absolutely no talent when it comes to writing HTML or PHP or any of that. But that's why I have Jess on speed-dial, lol. I create/ edit pages using Nvu, then I upload them to my host's server. Doesn't get any easier than that, hehe. But then I don't possess the knowledge or the patience to do anything more complicated . But some day I'll get around to learning PHP. Some day...


"In an interstellar burst, I'm back to save the universe"
Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 01:52 Edited at: 4th Jun 2007 02:41
I use Drupal for my website(s)...

Mine
www.thingy-ma-jig.co.uk
www.dbp-site.com

For Friends
www.kashamusic.co.uk
www.jpactive.com (WIP)

For Work
www.pponline.co.uk ('my' project)
www.teachingexpertise.com (my colleague's project)
www.sportbusiness.com (launched by me but now maintained by a colleague)

I also have a few more in the works plus a few idea's I wanna try with it - one of which is a realtime online game.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 01:55 Edited at: 4th Jun 2007 01:59
PHP is VERY powerful...it makes things just soo much easier!

edit:
btw, my whole website is seperated as far as content and formatting/display

like look at this:
http://earlz.biz.tm/comics.php
http://earlz.biz.tm/nav.html
http://earlz.biz.tm/links.html
http://earlz.biz.tm/comics_comments.txt
http://earlz.biz.tm/comics.txt


--btw, why when I hover over the link dialog does it say "Joe Blade"

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indi
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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 02:24
i have a orangoutang who smokes in the corner and is chained to a bbc micro who i poke with a long stick. its very efficient

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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 02:27 Edited at: 4th Jun 2007 02:28
Sorry Indi but the Orangutan will need to step outside to smoke. Oh and he needs a longer chain.

Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 02:40
@Three Score:
1) You're using tables for layout. This is bad practice. It slows page rendering time down + you're mixing presentation with content. Its much better practice to use div's and CSS for layout.
2) You're using VERY saturated colours. Although its certainly not the worst choice of colour I've ever seen - its a little much. Try browsing around sites you consider well designed (for example, apple.com) and noticed how their colours are blended and subtle. They only use strong colours when they want to draw attention to something. If EVERYTHING is saturated and strong, then how do you draw attention? The eye is being drawn to everything at once.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 02:46
For Me, I use Publisher Pro. So I can add any types of graphics easy. Then I just add hot spots to hyper link to other pages.

to the ones thats trapped inside of you, this is it!!
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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 04:04 Edited at: 4th Jun 2007 04:06
@shadow, I hate websites like that..sucks not being able to copy text and sucks more on dialup

edit:
yea, my color scheme sucks..but it's VERY easy to change..
and I don't plan to change my entire website layout for a while...at least with my system though, I don't have to update my content..AT ALL just the single template file..

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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 04:08
I don't think i explained it right. sometimes the text does sometimes becume an image, but it's like really creat that you can have a software that takes the background out of an image and then can mix it with other stuff to put it on a website.

to the ones thats trapped inside of you, this is it!!
Dr Manette
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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 04:23
I use HTML Kit for editing my php/html files and FileZilla for accessing my server. The layout was done by my friend and fellow BioFox member. http://www.biofoxgames.com

Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 05:10
AHH I'VE NEVER SEEN SO MUCH GREEN ON A PAGE BEFORE!! hehe.

Thing is - i kinda like it. It sort of works.

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Josh
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Posted: 4th Jun 2007 23:20 Edited at: 4th Jun 2007 23:21
I use a little progam called PHP Designer 2007 (http://www.mpsoftware.dk/phpdesigner.php)

It's a pretty good editor and I use it all the time for editing my PHP files.

Only thing you should do it turn off the option "Automatically detect new classes, functions and variables in the document" under "Tools->Prefs->Debug and Preview" otherwise it seems to scan your entire file every time you type something new.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2007 03:49 Edited at: 5th Jun 2007 03:49
For my current site (which has a planned redoing) I just update a MYSQL Database. For example, each page is a table. Then I just add rows to the tables.

Edit: And for my new CMS that I've made, you can edit the whole website inside an Admin Panel I created.
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Posted: 5th Jun 2007 07:32
I got a really good, lightweight, easy way to edit my site now..
I just use a simple edit script I made
it's public, so here ya go:

the actual code:



and I simply place a link at the bottom of my pages with

where those variables are defined differently for each page..

btw, you can use that script freely...I'm pretty proud of it! lol

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Posted: 7th Jun 2007 06:52
oh great now mines not working. the hyper links go to a new button! it needs to be worked out

to the ones thats trapped inside of you, this is it!!
Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 7th Jun 2007 13:09
@Three Score - coding wise I suggest you stay away from elements like '<font size=5>' - the font element has been deprecated. It still works but shouldn't really be used as you're mixing CONTENT and PRESENTATION. Two ideally separate layers.

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