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Geek Culture / Wacom Tablet Issues

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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 02:08
I just got my Wacom A4 Intuos 3 in the mail today, but I have discovered a problem while drawing.

Because I can not see my hand while drawing on the tablet, I make mistakes. I can hardly draw a decent looking box without it having wiggly lines.

The other thing I find that annoying, is the hovering feature, where you can hover the pen over the tablet to move to cursor. Because of this feature, when I go to press down on the tablet, it does not mark the area that I had thought I was covering, therefore marks an area slightly to the side, which really frustrates me.

Does any one have any help on using tablets? or training your hand eye coordination?
JerBil
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 02:46
One person said she sets her pen to act as mouse and didn't like the points replicating mode, if thats any help.

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indi
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 02:47
get a piece of cardboard and stick it over the top, this will prevent the slippery friction.
look at your tablet when drawing, the cardboard will show you a reference of where your marking it.
get used to zooming in and out with keystrokes, move the tablet to a more inline position with your monitor.

or

draw the concept first and trace the image from under the plastic cover.
reverse the eraser and nib so your using it upside down, this will save on nibs and give you a better element to draw with on the fat eraser side.

I only use a tablet for photo retouching and texturing if i really have to at work.
The rest I am way more proficient with a mouse or a combo of both.

SpyDaniel
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 02:57
@JerBil

Urm, ill have to see if I can do that with mine and see if it helps at all.

@Indi

I wouldn't be able to use cardboard, as the nib has to actually touch the surface to draw any thing on screen.

I have traced stuff though, but its not what I really got the tablet for. I wanted a tablet so I could draw straight onto the computer and as it cost £300 I want to use it as much as I can to get my moneys worth.

I read some thing online about using a tablet and it said because you cant see your hand while drawing, as you are looking at the screen, you need to improve your hand eye coordination, but Ive been finding it frustrating, its like I am using my left hand!
Ron Erickson
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 03:09
It is definately all about practice. Right now, you are like an old person using a mouse for the first time. Except this is much more complicated. Just keep going at it. You'll get more and more comfortable with it.

indi
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 03:15
I use cardboard and its great, I own a graphire series and have done for years.

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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 04:59
Maybe an overlay would have been a better choice?

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indi
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 05:02
The overlays have a very poor resolution.


Id prefer working with a Cintiq.
http://www.wacom.com/cintiq/index.cfm

Crit
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 05:44
I had a 12x12 inch tablet, but I don't use it anymore because the pen got stolen. Anyway, I remember having problems with the aspect ratio. It had to be set up to use a 9x12 area in order to keep my drawings from getting smushed (to use a technical term). I'm not sure what size your tablet is, but if it is square you might have that same problem which would cause a certain amount of hand-eye drama.
SpyDaniel
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 14:38
No, its A4 sized, which is legal size for Americans.

Indi, I would have got one of those, but I didnt have that much to spend on one.
Van B
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 15:40
I think you have to get used to drawing on screen without looking at the tablet, I mean it's not something your gonna master right away, but like anything worthwhile, the results will be worth it.

I have a cheapo tablet, I certainly don't intend to spend £300 on a decent one, but I think it's a general practice to avoid looking at your tablet - it's an instrument and the work is being done on screen so get into the habit of working like that. Before long it'll be instinctive to draw with it regardless of your zoom level. I find myself only using the tablet for actually drawing - trying to set options or tools is just a pain, so I use the mouse to set my options and select areas/lasso - using the stylus purely to draw with.

Maybe it's worth just messing around with it for a while, try and get used to zooming into the area your working on only, and practice drawing smooth curves or whatever at different zoom levels. Tablets I find are much better for organic looking stuff, they can be a great help when making base textures too, but for sharp details stick to the mouse.


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Oolite
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 19:05
Like its been said, practice, i remember to practice i just wrote my name and signed it, over and over again till i felt comfortable doing that. I use mine as a mouse rather than it replicating the points because i have a dual monitor setup and its awkward.

I don't use my tablet to move sliders or select tools either, its just too damn awkward, but for drawing and sculpting, its a godsend.


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Manic
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 22:19
yup, nothings gonna help you here except practice here, I've got a graphire 3 A6, and still loving it after almost 3 years.

I can't draw nearly as well on my tablet as I can on paper, but I'm yet to find an undo button on paper, so it kinda balances out.

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Chenak
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 22:38
I just bought the same one just a few days ago Its an awesome thing compared to my previous one. When I first started using tablets I found them very difficult but as I used it more and more it definatly got easier, now I'm better at using my tablet than pencil drawing

As Van B said, you need to look at the screen while you are drawing, its what I'm doing now and I feel comfortable doing it. It did take a few months to get used to it though
SpyDaniel
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Posted: 20th Jun 2007 23:21
I do look at the screen while I draw, but I still feel like I am using my left hand to draw with, as I cant see where the pen is on the surface. Ive been practicing though, I did some tracing before, downloaded some images and traced them in paint shop But the lines where all wobbly
Oolite
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Posted: 21st Jun 2007 00:50
The thing i had trouble adjusting too was the width of my tablet, especially as i use it with the mouse function, now it seems to come natural to me where to put my pen now, you'll get used to it.
You may find at times it may be gathering dust on your desk or in a drawer but you'll soon get it back out again and wander why you packed it away.

Still want to get my hands on a Cintiq though.


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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 21st Jun 2007 01:09
A Cintiq would be nice to use, it would also cut out having to train your hand eye coordination
Jeku
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Posted: 21st Jun 2007 04:42
Will take some time getting used to. One of my artist friends from work uses it for everything on her computer now, not just Photoshop (checking email, surfing, etc.)

Manic
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Posted: 21st Jun 2007 11:40
well, i use my tablet for everything (I don't have a standalone mouse), but most often only the mouse, the only time I use the pen on menus and such is when I need to do something in Photoshop while I'm painting.

I can't imagine anyone using the pen exclusively.

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Oraculaca
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Posted: 21st Jun 2007 20:36
I have an intuos 2 a4 tablet,
I usually still pencil and ink my stuff on paper and scan it in to tweak and colour in ps. For some reason I dont mind the surface of the tablet and have never felt the need to cover it, though that probably shows in my work. The coordination thing does become second nature after so many hours use though.

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Posted: 23rd Jun 2007 01:13
you would have been better to start with a little a6 tablet. a6 is plenty big enugh unless you have a truly enormas monotor!

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