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Aaron Miller
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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 10:49 Edited at: 13th Jul 2007 22:26
Please tell me why you like, or dislike Microsoft Windows Vista, and tell me some information to:

- What edition you have (Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, or Ultimate)

- How much your copy of Vista cost you

- What architecture it is for (x86 (32-bit), x64 (64-bit))

- Your computer specs: Hard drive size, RAM size, Graphics Card (Your graphics card will be researched, therefor I ask that you only give the name), Processor type, and Processor speed

- Rather or not your computer is a desktop or laptop

- How well your computer runs

- What made you want to get Vista, or why you have Vista now

- If you had to have an OS besides Vista, what would it be? (If Linux, please name brand, ex: Ubuntu, Linspire, Red Hat, etc)


Edit
If you don't like Vista because it has bugs, please say what these bugs are.

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Thanks.


Cheers,

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 11:21
hmm i don't have vista. didn't like it cause it's can't run a million of muh softwares and games.

haha lets rock this world.
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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 12:14
- Business
- Free
- X86
- 300Gb, 2Gb, 7800GTX 512Mb, AMD X2 4200
- Desktop
- Works fine for me, the early driver releases meant I had to turn Aero off, but now that runs fine. I always turn UAC off, as I know what I'm doing.
- Having the latest and greatest
- None, but I have dual boot Windows XP, and all the Windows versions in a VM.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 14:50
As will all Microsoft operating systems, I'd recommend waiting for Service Pack 1, unless you like your computer using experience to be one big beta test.


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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 15:21
-Premium
-Came with Computer
-32-bit
-120GB HD, 1Gig Ram, geforce 8600m gs, C2D 7300, 2Ghz
-Laptop
-Runs amazing, SO far Ive been able to play all the latest games, aero looks great, operating system has run smoothly, all good things.
-It came with my computer, but I was hoping to get it, anyway
-Most likely XP, becuase I know that works just as well as vista

One note, I have had vista BoSD on me once, when I was installing the aol client software(don't ask why). I do, however, blame aol for that, not vista.


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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 15:27
Quote: "- What made you want to get Vista"


Nothing.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 15:38
- Business
- Free (MSDNAA)
- x86 (32-bit)
- 450GB, 2Gb ram, 8800GTS 640MB, AMD 64 X2 4600
- Desktop
- Runs fine. No problems, has been able to run every app I've tried thus far.
- Because I can get it free, because it's just as stable as XP in my experience and has more features like Windows Live.
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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 15:50
omg geri.. just.. lmao.. good luck avoiding the slap mate XD

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 15:55
Slap? No - ban.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 16:04 Edited at: 12th Jul 2007 16:05
- Home Premium
- £70 System builder OEM off of Amazon
- x86 (32-bit)
- 120GB HD, 1.25Gb ram, Nvidia 5600FX 128mb, AMD XP 2400+ (fairly old custom build from ~2003)
- Desktop
- No problems. Does its job, runs fine.
- If anything, probably Ubuntu Linux, because it's just a very nicely laid out distrib. I bought Vista purely to ensure my apps worked on it, and they do. I am planning to "port" my PC lifestyle over to Ubuntu Linux fairly soon, since it would allow me to cross compile entirely on a single OS with relative ease


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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 16:29
- Home Premium

- uh... i think like $300? cant remember...

- 64bit, it also runs 32 bit apps though

- 2HHDs: 320 Gbs and 160 Gbs(they were actually lower price than i expected, i couldnt pass it up), 2Gbs RAM(2x1Gb), 8800 GTX(w00t!), Intel Core2 Duo, 2.4 Ghz

- Desktop

- absolutely amazing!

- because vista is new, so i can run anything that comes out in the coming years. (i have a dual boot system set up with vista and XP)

- i do have another: XP Home

- Vista bug that im not happy with: lack of driver support for older mice. my side buttons dont work in vista, but they work in XP. they claim to update the drivers.... some day.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 21:20 Edited at: 12th Jul 2007 21:21
- Ultimate
- Free (connect)
- x64
- Pentium D 950 (3.4ghz Dual), 3GB DDR2-667, ATI Radeon x700 Pro.
- 2 x 320GB SATA RAID + 2 x 200GB + 1 x 80GB
- Desktop
- Perfectly. Not one BSOD / fatal disaster since the beta stages - which is all good
- Got it for free for beta testing it and submitted X number of bug reports. Installed because it's the latest and greatest. Was impressed with it in the beta stages - performs much better than XP does.
- If not Vista? I'd roll back to XP. Don't tend to stray from Windows unless I need to - causes more problems and stress.

One annoying thing - there's a distinct lack of 64-bit drivers for random hardware. Windows Update is a lot more effective at finding new drivers for hardware than it was prior to Vista, but one the whole there just seems to be a distinct lack of them.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 22:02 Edited at: 12th Jul 2007 22:02
Haha,seems like everyone who has it likes it,and everyone who doesn't hates it more than everything. I think I'm seeing a slight pattern here.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 22:23
Hey Benny53, a slight pattern?
It makes perfect sense to me.
Why would one procure something that one dislikes?

For those of you who do have it though
Windows Vista Services to Disable is some seriously useful information.
I'll bet a lot of it applies to XP too.

Also check out the first link on the left under the Computer Stuff!
That is one great script.
I think it's time to switch to a high-speed internet connection before they kill Google.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 22:28
I'm faking vista on WinXP

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 22:31
I have a friend who reformatted his Vista laptop back to XP. He said that he was experiencing short battery life, and going back to Vista solved the problem.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 22:33 Edited at: 12th Jul 2007 22:37
- Home Premium

- $179 USD

- x86 (32-bit)

- 250 ide - 150 sata, 1 Gig, EVGA 7950 GT, AMD Athlon 64X2 2.2GHz

- Desktop (Media Center)

- Runs well.

- Planned to get Vista when I bought my computer and got Vista the day it was released.

- I dual boot between Windows XP and Vista for software not Vista compatable.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 22:47 Edited at: 12th Jul 2007 22:48
Quote: "I'm faking vista on WinXP Mike"

OK...
Let me guess,
you removed half your RAM,
underclocked your CPU,
and removed the service packs?

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 22:50
Thanks all.

So far, I've not seen any reason why I shouldn't get Vista, that isn't fixable.

(btw, at Fry's Electronics they are selling Home Basic for about $99, and Ultimate for $199.99, I believe Ultimate goes (normally) for $400, right?)


Cheers,

-naota

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 23:05
Quote: "Quote: "I'm faking vista on WinXP Mike"
OK...
Let me guess,
you removed half your RAM,
underclocked your CPU,
and removed the service packs? "


Nah, just downloaded a theme, but what you said would do the trick just as well

Mike
P.S. No performance loss from using this theme.

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Posted: 12th Jul 2007 23:30
Well, Vista uses DirectX 9 to power the shell, and uses pixel shader 2.0 on the windows in the Aero portion. All the windows are just textured quads.

Surely that is the reason for the RAM usage. It being 3D explains the CPU, and Vista is still being worked on... People have asked for Vista to come out sooner, be carefull for what you wish for.


Cheers,

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don't have vista, don't ever intend to use it. it looks like a pile off stiming horse sh**!

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 01:33
I have vista and love it, it's fantastic providing you have enough RAM. I'm running it on a laptop with 2 gigs of ram and it's plenty fast, Aero runs fine, and things start up instantaneously... Don't know what everyone elses problem with it is, it's been fantastic for me.

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I have 1gb of ram, have everything running at max graphics and a dual core 4.2ghz cpu and it runs faster than XP pro.

I've had no problems so far, no system shutdowns, bad memory links or anything. Some programs run slower, but compatiblity modes completely fix that. I got the business edition free off the student MSDN, don't know if the home edition is any different.
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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 01:48 Edited at: 13th Jul 2007 01:50
@hessiess
Well, perhaps you should actually use research first before jumping to such a conclusion, and perhaps you should think before you post to.

@Izzy545
Cool. I plan on upgrading my RAM when I can, right now I am about 100 or 200 megabytes short of a GB (957MB is what I'm at).

Edit for Prince of Darkness (Who posted right after I openned the thread)
Cool. I think most people who don't like Vista just don't try to use any work-arounds, funny because most of those people would use work-arounds in any other software, and continue on happily.

Cheers,

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 01:50
Vista is fantastic, and I pity anyone who refuses to upgrade to it. The truth is, there is absolutely NOTHING that would discourage upgrading. All my programs work fine, Ive only had to run one in compatibility mode, and that was quick and painless. But for some reason certain people will not give up on the endless tirade of Anti Vista comments, really guys, its gone from cute to annoying.


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I just can't seem to post at the right times. :S

@SageTech
Cool. I completely agree with you. I am more than convinced that I should upgrade to Vista, of course I will be doing research of my own still.


@Everyone
Keep the comments coming, I like knowing how everyone feels about Vista.


Cheers,

-naota

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 03:44 Edited at: 13th Jul 2007 03:46
- What edition you have (Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, or Ultimate)
1. Home Premium
2. Ultimate

- How much your copy of Vista cost you
1. €0 - OEM
2. €0 - *ahum*

- What architecture it is for (x86 (32-bit), x64 (64-bit))
1. x86
2. x86

- Your computer specs: Hard drive size, RAM size, Graphics Card (Your graphics card will be researched, therefor I ask that you only give the name), Processor type, and Processor speed
1. 1,66Ghz Duo 2 Core, 2GB RAM, 160GB HD, GeForce Go7300
2. 3,2Ghz AMD Athlon, 2GB RAM, 320GB HD, Nvidia GeForce 7600

- Rather or not your computer is a desktop or laptop
1. Yes, it is a desktop or laptop. Laptop.
2. Yes, it is a desktop or laptop. Desktop.

- How well your computer runs
1. Perfect, Vista Performance score of 3,1
2. Perfect, Vista Performance score of 3,3

- What made you want to get Vista, or why you have Vista now
1. OEM with laptop.
2. Staying up-to-date for my repair business and the like.

- If you had to have an OS besides Vista, what would it be? (If Linux, please name brand, ex: Ubuntu, Linspire, Red Hat, etc)
1. Windows XP or Ubuntu

I've heard a lot of negatives about Vista, but except for some minor things, I can't say I agree with any of them. UAC is a great thing and people complaining are definitely of the lazy kind imho. Performance slowdown are minimal on both PC's, networking so much clearer (but do disable IPv6, lol) and things feel inituitive after 2-3 days of working with it.

Quote: "I have a friend who reformatted his Vista laptop back to XP. He said that he was experiencing short battery life, and going back to Vista solved the problem."

Obviously, changing back from Vista to XP lets your laptop go back to Vista, which solves the problem. Sorry, just couldn't let that one go.

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 05:04
- What edition you have (Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, or Ultimate)

System 1: Vista Ultimate (Retail)
System 2: Vista Ultimate (VLK)
System 3: Vista Home Premium (OEM)

- How much your copy of Vista cost you

£120 + £50 per extra license (£220 altogether)

- What architecture it is for (x86 (32-bit), x64 (64-bit))

System 1: x86-32 & x86-64 (Multi-Boot)
System 2: x86-32
System 3: x86-32

- Your computer specs: Hard drive size, RAM size, Graphics Card (Your graphics card will be researched, therefor I ask that you only give the name), Processor type, and Processor speed

System 1:
• CPU :: Intel Core 2 Duo E6800 2.6GHz 1MB Cache (o|c 3.3GHz)
• RAM :: 4GB (4x1GB) PC2-6400 800MHz CLK4 Kingston Hyper-X
• GFX :: ATi Sapphire Radeon HD 2900 XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI-E
• HDD :: 1.28TB (4x320GB) Hitachi Deskstar SATA-II 16MB Cache

System 2:
• CPU :: AMD Athlon64 X2 3200+ (2.2GHz) 1MB Cache
• RAM :: 1GB (2x512MB) PC2-5300 667MHz CLK5 Kingston Value
• GFX :: ATi Radeon X1200 (on-board) 128MB Dedicated 128MB Shared
(On Monday replaced with ATi Sapphire Radeon HD 2400 XT 256MB PCI-E)
• HDD :: 400GB Hitachi Deskstar SATA-II 16MB Cache

System 3:
• CPU :: AMD Sempron 2600+ (1.8GHz) 384KB Cache
• RAM :: 768MB (1x512MB 1x256MB) PC-3200 400MHz CLK3 Kingston Hyper-X
• GFX :: NVIDIA XFX GeForce 5200 Ultra 256MB AGP
• HDD :: 240GB (2x120GB) Western Digital Cavier ATA-150 8MB Cache

- Rather or not your computer is a desktop or laptop

System 1: Desktop
System 2: Desktop
System 3: Desktop

- How well your computer runs

System 1: Vista Performance Index 6.0 : Can't think of any performance issues. Boots in <3seconds, everything is instant on it.

System 2: Vista Performance Index 3.8 : DirectX9 games lag a bit compared to Windows XP Professional

System 3: Vista Performance Index 2.6 : DirectX9 games lag a bit, searching can be fairly slow at times, and installing anything kills system performance until it's finished. Apart from that it's much quicker than XP in general.

- What made you want to get Vista, or why you have Vista now

Needed it to develop Vista games. Besides why bother staying with an OS they'll retire support for in a year or so? Always best to be surfing the technology wave rather than always playing catch up.


- If you had to have an OS besides Vista, what would it be? (If Linux, please name brand, ex: Ubuntu, Linspire, Red Hat, etc)

System 1: Also has Linux Ubuntu (forget the version, but broken atm), MacOSX for Intel (4.9.5) and AmigaOS 4.0 installed.

System 2: Also has Linux Novell SuSE 10.4 Enterprise Server Installed, and Windows Server 2008 Live Edition.

System 3: Also has Linux Ubuntu, and Windows XP Professional Installed.

As far as Vista goes, I've found that apart from some compatibility issues and primary teething issues that will be corrected over the coming months that it's by far the best Windows to date. Provides better graphics drivers appear, and DirectX performance is improved.. should make using XP obsolete as a gamer.

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@Raven
Wow, amazing computers mate. Thanks.


Cheers,

-naota

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 05:39 Edited at: 13th Jul 2007 05:40
- Ultimate

- $400

- X86

- GeForce FX 5200 Ultra, AMD Sempron 2800+ (1.6 Ghz Orig, OC'd 2.0Ghz, 1GB RAM, 160GB Seagate 7200RPM HD)

- Rather or not your computer is a desktop or laptop

- 3.0...sluggish when it's been idle for 6+ hours but it recovers quickly, except for with Cinema 4D...

- Couldn't find my Windows XP Pro CD... had $400...wanted vista already so... meh

- Graphics OS


ALL IN ALL, i like Vista just fine.

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Well... GraphicsOS does pwn with all its "Hello World!" glory.
Thanks for participating.

@da king
If the comment was directed toward me, PLEASE do post it. Everything stated helps, even if it is against me... If it is against me, it would help me improve myself.


Cheers,

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(Aaron get on MSN...)


and np glad to help!(what did i do?)

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@Xsnip3rX
I'm on. What you did was participate in answering questions about Vista.


Cheers,

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Posted: 13th Jul 2007 07:38 Edited at: 13th Jul 2007 07:40
-Home Premium

-$110 (OEM)

-x86

-AMD Opteron 185 2.6 Ghz Dual Core, 2 GB DDR400 RAM, NVIDIA 8800 GTS 640MB, 250GB Hitachi HD

-Desktop

-Still setting things up, but Vista runs quite well. I've had no problems with it, Aero is very nice, yet my wireless keyboard and mouse stopped working about a day after I installed it, but that's because it was of poor quality, not because of Vista. Have a performance index of 4.0, because of RAM speed. Range is from 4.0-5.9 (Graphics being the highest). My only gripe is Microsoft doesn't support Visual Studio .NET 2003 on Vista, but it's about time to move on anyway.

-I wanted to start looking into development with DirectX 10, and I figured it would be best if I did a near complete computer overhaul before college so it'd last me the four years with no upgrades. That probably won't happen, but the extra speed is nice.

-My alternative OS choice would be Windows XP at the moment, but I'm sure various Linux OS's would serve most tasks as well. Can't say my own venture into Linux went too well, as a few from IRC found out, but that's because I had little patience when I tried it

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@Preston C
I think Linspire sucks.. I own it, I have it... It takes forever to start up... So don't get Linspire. (I had "five-o")

Glad to hear it is all going well.


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- Ultimate
- don't remember exactly, around $400
- x86
- 250GB, 2048MB, 8600GT, AMD64 X2 3600+, 2000Mhz x2
- desktop
- it runs perfectly, vista really is stable, and make good use of dual core processors.
- to help mr. Bill hold his 1st position at forbes!
- vista. can't think of myself using another OS at this time.
- Well, i didn't had any bugs. A lot of incompatibility, but any bugs. Most of the software i use already has been migrated or patched to vista, so currently there's no reason i shouldn't use vista only. I didn't disabled UAC, instead i created another folder "c:\alternative", and installed my programs there. It helps not having to enable and confirm administrative privileges for every program.
- And DB user, sorry for borrowing this thread, but please link to gatorhex's thread, so we can benchmark dbpro on vista.
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@Bhax
Done.

Nevermind mods. Dave J did it for me. (Changed my name, that is)


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@DB user 2006+:
Thanks! The only "problem" (regarding DBPro) i have with vista so far is the performance of DBPro games. They really perform slower comparing to xp. But i think that is because the vista drivers are still in development. That's why i asked you to link to GatorHex's thread. Hopefully a lot of vista users here will benchmark their machines and we can see how much performance is affected on vista.
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Ok...

specs first:
Version: Home Premium (32bit)
Computer: Desktop
RAM: 1gb (but 128mb used by graphics card)
HDD: 227gb SATA main hdd
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+
CPU Speed: 2.00 ghz

I got it because it came with my PC

It runs great performace wise, runs most any game I have fairly fast..(dual-core has a lot to do with it I think..)

It doesn't run great reliability-wise...explorer usually crashes about 3-5 times a week...

The thing I don't like is a lot of programs don't work...for a short list...(some of these, there are work-arounds, or they work usually but if you do a certain thing, then crash or whatever)
MingW, Flash MX 2004, Acoustica, Cakewalk, A lot of XP drivers, OpenOffice 1.1(the new 2.0 though seems to work),and a few more...

Development for Vista is really quite hard..it has very trivial and subtle differences that make a very small, but hard to find, bug...Like for whatever reason, when exiting while using SDL crashes in Vista, but I found a workaround, but the workaround makes SDL crash in XP when exiting...so..who knows..

Also, you can no longer record the thing called "Stereo Mix" this was the output sent to the speakers...very nifty for recording onyl the sound from videos..

"Sound Recorder" that comes with Vista only lets you save in .wma format

User Account Control is just annoying...and if you turn it off, then you get a warning every time you start your PC..

Network control is so much harder to access...(you can't just go straight from control panel)

Windows Media Player 11 is a bit annoying...I almost broke my keyboard when simply trying to get the Now Playing list to burn to a CD


Good things so far are
Cooler looking windows and such(I love the dark theme)
Disk Management can now resize partitions
Picture viewer thing is cooler looking


basically, imo, it's all the stability and features of ME, but with eye-candy!

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@Bhax
No problem.

@Three Score
I am assuming ME is referencing Windows Millenium Edition, and not just emphasising (spelling?) me.

In either case, I thank you for your comments.


Cheers,

-naota

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direct x10 is the only reason to get a vista

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Posted: 15th Jul 2007 23:30 Edited at: 15th Jul 2007 23:31
Quote: "Also, you can no longer record the thing called "Stereo Mix" this was the output sent to the speakers...very nifty for recording onyl the sound from videos..
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Yes you can, you just need to enable it again, it's hidden and disabled by default.

Control panel -> Sound -> Recording, and you get this:


Right click, and click "Show disabled"


Then you get stereo mix:


Simply right click and enable it:


Make sure to right click the device -> properties -> levels, and turn up the volume etc. to max.

Stereo mix will now work fine


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Posted: 16th Jul 2007 02:33
wow! thanks!!! Now if only I could get Acoustica to work for recording...lol

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Posted: 17th Jul 2007 21:18
Well, haven't got vista, but I've heard that it is overprotective and has no support for OpenGL, and is an ripof of Mac OSX. But I've also heard that it's more user-friendly and has more stability plus that it has nice things like superflash.

Anyway, most people here appears to like it. May test it someday, but not today.
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Posted: 17th Jul 2007 23:02
Quote: "ripof of Mac OSX"

Speaking of macs, Steve Jobs sues Bill Gates for "stealing" a GUI, where as they stole the GUI from Xerox, wtf is with that? Bah.. I dislike Steve Jobs.

It does have support for OpenGL (From what I understand), however, OpenGL must be emulated through DirectX. Someone is working on a library to make OpenGL work on the hardware level, somewhere, but I don't remember where I saw that, I was only pointed there.


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Posted: 18th Jul 2007 06:04 Edited at: 18th Jul 2007 06:05
- Home Premium [32bit]
- Came with laptop.
- Specs:
80GB HDD
1GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150
AMD Turion64, 2.0 Ghz
- Laptop
- Runs most games pretty well.
- It came with my laptop.
- XP.

The UAC(User Account Control) is very annoying. You can turn it off, but it periodically warns you that it's off and should be turned on immediately.

Also, you must confirm any operation (deleting files, renaming files, etc.) several times with the numerous pop-up messages.

It hogs several hundred MB of RAM.

Many older games don't run on it, which I'm sure you're aware of.

I've never used DBPro on XP, but after comparing it's performance with XP users, it seems that programs made with it run slower.

All in all, I would be happier--much, much, happier--with XP.
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Posted: 18th Jul 2007 12:36
Quote: "Speaking of macs, Steve Jobs sues Bill Gates for "stealing" a GUI, where as they stole the GUI from Xerox, wtf is with that? Bah.. I dislike Steve Jobs.
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That sue-thing is just too extreme. Vista may have had OSX as an "inspiration source", but to sue for that...

Quote: "It does have support for OpenGL (From what I understand), however, OpenGL must be emulated through DirectX."


Ok. I read an article of someone who had tried vista out, and it stood there was no support for OpenGL. But it's just too bad you have to emulate it. If that someone, thats working on fixing that, succeds, it would be very good. At last that's what I think.

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