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Shadow
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Posted: 31st May 2003 00:31 Edited at: 2nd Jun 2003 13:46
I know that people of the DarkBasic community are way too civilised to start flame wars, but on other forums it can happen a lot.

Your enemy:
Flamebait laying flamer.

Your aim:
To annoy him/her as much as possible.

You should start by saying in no unclear terms that you disagree with them.

They will:

1) Call you gay (and other things)
2) Throw insults at you
3) Get really angry
4) Make typos
5) Flame flame flame

You should:

1) Not get angry
2) Correct their spelling
3) Be sarcastic
4) Write stuff too intelligent for them to understand, then laugh when they try.
5) Provide good arguements as to why they are wrong.
6) If they are american, use british english.
7) *Insert personal secret weapon*
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Posted: 31st May 2003 01:03
Quote: "are way to civilised"

Should be "are way too civilised"

Sorry....

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Posted: 31st May 2003 01:28
Correct spelling of DarkBasic is DarkBASIC

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Posted: 31st May 2003 01:33 Edited at: 31st May 2003 10:01
What can be simplier? Find and punish them!

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Posted: 31st May 2003 01:38 Edited at: 31st May 2003 01:39
Punnish should be punish.

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Posted: 31st May 2003 01:51
"1) Not get angry
2) Correct their spelling
3) Be sarcastic
4) Write stuff too intelligent for them to understand, then laugh when they try.
5) Provide good arguements as to why they are wrong.
6) If they are american, use british english."

I should use all of those methods against ****** ****** (Ahem, wrong thread!)

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Posted: 31st May 2003 02:01
Darn, my secrets got out

Anyone who knows me knows that my personal secret weapon is correction of spelling/grammer and sarcasm. Have you been tracking me, sir?



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Andy Igoe
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Posted: 31st May 2003 02:06
Quote: "british english"


Your selection is: American English; International English; Queens English; English; and bad English.

Your choice of phrases falls into the later category and your lack of capitalisation where nations are concerned can only be found insulting.

Thankfully for you I am a forgiving listener and shall not dwell on this failing.

Pneumatic Dryll
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Posted: 31st May 2003 02:08
Quote: "1) Not get angry
2) Correct their spelling
3) Be sarcastic
4) Write stuff too intelligent for them to understand, then laugh when they try.
5) Provide good arguements as to why they are wrong.
6) If they are american, use british english.
7) *Insert personal secret weapon*"


I just scored 5 our of 7, not bad for a first attempt

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Posted: 31st May 2003 02:08
You mean grammar.

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Posted: 31st May 2003 02:23
Lol!

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Ian T
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Posted: 1st Jun 2003 20:53
Don't worry about Dryll, he has a serious superiority complex. He's under the impression that the English he speaks is far more proper than any other version-- in other words, if he dislikes the rules, he'll say 'that's not REAL English, that's deformed English'. Poor soul...

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2003 13:50
I get the impression that Pneumatic Dryll is saying that there is no such thing as British English. I wonder how the phrase made it's way into the Oxford English Dictionary?

As for such things as capitalisation, I was rushing and did not have time to notice such mistakes. I can't believe I got to/too wrong though.
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Posted: 2nd Jun 2003 14:47
Hehe, don't know what you'd call my language - certainly not British English - I mean the spelling is the same, except common words are replaced by words that can be said while eating a fish supper. I find it a little depressing, I mean - not trying to cause offense here, but the way the English language has been spread across the globe is pretty sad. I don't have any real political viewpoints, lot's of moral viewpoints though - I just think that language should be consistant. Colour, sounds and looks much better than Color - it's like they've taken away every facet that made the language interesting and dumbed it down. No offense, but I think Americans see our original spellings as somewhat pretentious. It's the simple fact that it's our language, if we did'nt protect it they'd be selling shares in it.

Quite an accurate list though, certainly reminds me of the flame fests I've had in the past .


Van-B
P.S. Van-B already knows there's spelling mistakes, feel free with the sarcasm though .

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Posted: 2nd Jun 2003 19:10
No, Van, it's not 'your language'. You can't own a language. We split off and used it too, and they both branched in their own directions. They are both just as correct.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 01:26
I have to agree with the Brits on this one. American English is justa bastardize version of the original. I remember a while back a group of (white) people wanted to make a form of slang most commonly known as "jive" into it's own language. Personally, I think there has to been at least a 75% differance between words before it becomes a seperate language. That's why l33t isn't a true language yet. :-s

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 01:39
I think you mean 'bastardization'.

Anyways, again, I disagree. It's grown into its own language. Both languages have evolved, and you can't say that the Americans are 'using the wrong words' because their language isn't evolving the same way-- it's sheer stupidity.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 02:03
-If they are american, use british english

LOL!Are you serious?


You make it sound like it rather means:'Write stuff too intelligent for them to understand, then laugh when they try'LMAO

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 07:50
You are all silly. It is known fact English is the Germanic language of the Indo-European family.

Most of the most common languages are Indo-European family. Such languages are as follows:

English
Used in almost every part of the world, most commonly found in Britain, America, and Canada.

Spanish
Spoken in many countries of Latin America and in Spain.

French
Written and orally spoken in France and Canada.

These are just to name a very few..
Indo-European languages tend to be inflected. Some languages like English have lost many of their inflections during their evolution.

It is estimated that there are 300 million native speakers and 300 million who use English as a second language and a further 100 million use it as a foreign language. It is the language of science, aviation, computing, diplomacy, and tourism. It is listed as the official or co-official language of over 45 countries and is spoken extensively in other countries where it has no official status. English plays a part in the cultural, political or economic life of most of the planet.

Therefore chipmunks really do get milk mustaches.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 08:25 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2003 08:26
English and milk-mustache chipmunks came from Mars




.. which reminds me of Chip & Dale , when they were first came out "talking English"!

I was like .. WTF?!

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 09:20
I might want to point out Latin is the language of Science.

I would hardly call America Engilsh an evolution, consider that the main differance is pronoucation and spelling. Is Southern English a different language than Bostin's English? Of course not, it's just differant pronoucation. No wonder it the hardest language to learn in the world, there's too many diolects of it.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 11:12 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2003 11:14
Actually american english is closer to old english than english english is. The spelling, in most places, is more sensible, and
the word "butt" is from old english, although it wouldn't get said in old england because it was extremely rude.
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 11:15
This is turning into a transatlantic flamewar isn't it.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 11:49
Solidz Snake... ROTFLMFAO I knew you wouldn't understand... puny chipmunk minds

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 12:57
Mouse, what are you mangling on about?

All I said was I did'nt like the American spelling of our words, the way they simplified it - when there was really no need. I suppose you don't see a problem in changing a language to suit the mentality of it's users?


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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 16:17
It evolved. You're very foolish if you're still trying to blame 'Americans in general' because words evolved over the course of four centuries. Your language also evolved. From the time that the USA became its own country, both languages have changed greatly, and the one you're speaking now is even further from the original language than ours.

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 16:34
Yes, you're right language evolves, parts of other languages merge into it - but, my point which you seem to be missing is that the spelling of some English words was changed in American-English to make it easier to learn. I don't believe that a language should be changed unnaturally, this is my entire point - why do Americans feel they can change anything they disagree with?, it's nothing short of childish arrogance.


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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 21:45 Edited at: 3rd Jun 2003 21:46
Just to clarify,the French spoken in Canada has nothing to do with the one you hear from France.In fact,some french people have a hard time to understand us.

A few of you may think you heard it especially that quite a few DVD language's French mode are said to be 'Dubbed in Quebec' as you've probably seen on Ghost ship,Thirteen ghost(woah ghastly ) and a few others but voice actor usually speak the same French as in France on international purposes.

A few movies like 'Elvis Gratton','Slapshot' French Version and New Jack City are all full of 'real' French-Canadian accent in all it's swearings and yelling

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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 22:27
Cool! - New Jack City rocks , Ice-T is the man, even in French .


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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 23:40
Quote: "I think you mean 'bastardization'."


Unless you're English, in which case, you mean 'bastardisation'.

Also, British English language hasn't really evolved, British people have just got worse at using it.
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Posted: 3rd Jun 2003 23:52
Well I think that is Prosperous the english utlise the languge as well as they eat scones

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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 00:29
"You make it sound like it rather means:'Write stuff too intelligent for them to understand, then laugh when they try'LMAO"

Its usually true though. Hence for Harry Potter they changed the name of the first book from "The Philosopher's Stone" to "The Sourcerer's Stone".

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One thing you forgot about flame wars on the internet, is they MUST eventually contain one Nazi reference.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 02:30
Where in Hitler's bunker did that come from?

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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 02:44
Okay, Van and Rob, you have a good point there. Some high-up people are doing that to the English language over here, and it pi$$es me off.

Their logic:

Kids are getting stupider!

What do we do?

Make it easier for them to live out their lives stupidly!

As I said, pi$$es the hell out of me. It's idiotic. It's their fault kids are turning out like idiots anyways. The Sorcerer's Stone is a prime example of that idiocy.

However, while language authorities are better in England, the schooling system and child laws and regulations in general are just as ###ked up...

It's bad everywhere . As said by about 1,000,000 people across the world playing UT2003: Life is pain, get over it!

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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 15:24
Quote: "Well I think that is Prosperous the english utlise the languge as well as they eat scones"


Huh? I have no idea what this post says. Can anyone tell me what this is supposed to say?
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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 16:48
I have no idea what he means by prosperous, the word means something that is succesful, like an apple tree with lots of apples would be thought of as prosperous.

Scones are little cakes that you usually put butter and jam on - loads of varieties, and they are very popular in Britain amongst the elderly because they're very easy to make and go great with a pot of tea. I don't think there's anything I can compare them too. They're about the same size as a cookie, except thick, and they are quite crumbly - but they taste more like pancakes than cookies.

Here's a delightful picture of a couple of scones:



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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 16:51
u just HAVE to make us hungry ..

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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 17:09
Sorry - I take it your a scone fan as well .

Let me get my Dot Cotton pic to cure that...

Nah, too close to teatime!


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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 17:15 Edited at: 4th Jun 2003 17:16
RobK:Wouldn't it more be Harry Pothead 'The Prince's stoned'?

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I said that to the boy and he just looked at me, then came up with one of his own...

Harry Potter and the Goblins Gash.

Most of you won't get that, but I was in stitches!.


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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 20:18
I think the pic above is callled "biscuit" in American English.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 20:51
Biscuit is French for cookie.

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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 21:13
Biscuits, that's what we call cookies too. But don't Americans dip their biscuits in gravy? - could'nt do that to a scone!


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Posted: 4th Jun 2003 21:29
Those are biscuts, or look like them. Cookies are cookies and those ain't cookies.

DIP them in gravy? Slander! You POUR it over them! Of course, with the disgusting stuff served almost everywhere today, both biscut and gravy would prolly most often taste disgusting...

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Hey where is scottish english! or more namly called Glasweign....

Its a dirrivitave of Bad english mixed in with about 700 diffrent words of there own.......


No one can understand but thats there problem

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Posted: 5th Jun 2003 01:08
Can't we just all come together in the spirit of peace and friendship..... and take the piss out of Shadow as we first set out to do, so many moons ago? Guvnor?

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Back to the original point of the topic,
can I volunteer a point 8?

8) Keep bringing up past mistakes / typos / arguments

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Posted: 5th Jun 2003 09:13
We sell busuits and gravy were I work for breakfast, it ussally sells out rather fast. We also sell bacon, egg and cheese on a biscuit, ham, egg and cheese on a biscuit, and sausage, egg and cheese on a biscuit. It's great way to start your day and clog your heart at the same time.

Biscuit's and gravy is ok, but the real tasty stuff is (pardom the experestion) Sh*t on a Shingle. It's toast covered with light grey gravy that ussally contains small chunks of ground beef. MMMM mmmm, damn tasty. It's the only truely American food that I really like.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2003 09:26
devonshire tea with scones mmmm jam and cream ahh nice.

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