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Geek Culture / Microsoft catch up with the XBox 360 Flash!

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GatorHex
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Posted: 24th Jul 2007 14:21 Edited at: 24th Jul 2007 14:50
I've just heard from people who have dodgy games and XBox 360 flashes that they have been taken offline on all games including their geniune titles.

I did warn my friends this would happen. My advice is buy your games cheap off ebay and when your tired of them sell em back on e-bay. You only lose £5-10 per title which works out about the same as what pirate game cost anyway!

My friends are worried they need to buy a new xbox now, doh!

Don't mess with your XBox, it's not worth it!

If Microsoft haven't caught up with your dodgy XBox yet be afraid, very afraid, of putting any new pirate game in it. My sources told me it happened after putting some of the latest releases in

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Osiris
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 05:53
This is gonna be just like the hombrew PSP thing, where Sony and that hackers just went back and fourth until they got bored (well Dark Alex retired). Except Microsoft has more power over the hackers, if they get caught they cant play Live any more, where as on the PSP the worst thing that could happen is if you were an idiot you could brick your PSP. Then Sony brought out the new PSP with the new motherboard to keep people from home brewing (which Dark Alex and his team broke into anyways). So its just going to go back and fourth anyways, so why bother trying, besides Microsoft has the luxury of forcing an update that can peer into your boot sector and see what your booting, if its bad you get banned. Personally I think that if the 360 detects pirated software it should brick itself (only temporarily) until the idiot calls tech support and says "it just happened and I don't know why!" and after he is done laughing at the idiot they can charge him for piracy or what not (first checking that it was not a false alarm of course).

Thats probably the longest rant ive ever had on here...haha sorry!

Your signature has been erased by a mod because it's larger than 600x120....
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 06:36
The DS doesn't have any such problems. Probably because when Nintendo wrote the firmware, they realized that they were smart and wrote it without bugs so it didn't need updating.

That, and you can get PassMe devices which don't even require modification to the firmware to be able to play unsigned (homebrew) code.

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GatorHex
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 07:14 Edited at: 25th Jul 2007 07:40
LOL, on my DS, Nintendo forgot to add WPS-PSK WiFi security (don't ask me to use WEP Nintendo!) and want me to pay £30 to get hold of a web browser, doh!

The DS is going on ebay very soon, I've already taken it's picture. I'm happy with the PSP and it's free OS updates. Long live free stuff!



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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 14:38
... Why do you have 5 sylii?

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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 15:40
I believe it's 'styloriises.'

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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 15:43 Edited at: 25th Jul 2007 15:45
Looks like 2 good stylii, and 3 absolute turkeys! - I got those cheap ones too, you might as well use them to pick your ears . Don't know why your selling the DS though, your clearly not playing the right games on it.

I've never felt the need to chip the 360, my old xbox is chipped because it's really a media centre thing now. Like it's mostly used to play movies over my network, and retro games (I have a big collection of SNES, ST, and Amiga games on it) - a modded XBox is a wonderful thing, a modded 360 is just asking for trouble .

You know what's cool about the DS's SupercardSD though besides being able to run home brew - it has built in emulation, like I can play Master System and Game Gear games on it. Now I did not expect that, I was actually trying a SMS emulator on it, then noticed that it didn't need the emulator at all.

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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 16:10
Van, really?

Are you using a slot-1 or slot-2, and which one? I have a SuperCard MiniSD which is a slot-2.

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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 16:16
Slot 2, I think it should work for you too, just find yourself a .SMS rom and try it out - I suggest Sensible Soccer .

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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 18:05 Edited at: 25th Jul 2007 18:08
I realy was looking for forward to the new XBox getting modded like the old one so i could turn it into a Linux PC but I guess the security is too strong this time around

Some people have a habbit of chewin ght e end of pens even cirtual one there is only 1 good styleeee

I think if you could add a usb mouse,keyboard and unrestricted hard drive to turn it into a Windows PC then Microsoft could rake in millions more.

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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 19:32
Not to turn this into a bid on your DS, but what games are you getting rid of with it?
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Posted: 25th Jul 2007 19:33
Quote: "Probably because when Nintendo wrote the firmware, they realized that they were smart and wrote it without bugs so it didn't need updating."


Um, not quite. The PSP is the only handheld console I've seen that updates itself. There are many things about the DS that should be updated--- i.e. when you set the time it has to reset. And updating a firmware doesn't always have something to do with bugs. Microsoft updates its dashboard all the time with backwards compat. updates, usability, etc. Also, the Wii has already had to update a few times.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 13:12
Shhh, Jeku, I was trying to make the DS sound God-like...

Nice Van, I'll have to give that a go, since I do have a few fave SMS games!

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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 18:16
Wow, Van, you weren't lying.

I bet that's a hidden feature that hardly anyone knows about!

Runs quite smooth too: Looks like it's simply a GBA game

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Posted: 26th Jul 2007 18:21
I'd only mod a console after it's pretty obsolete. Like, I am considering modding my GC because it's getting very hard to find GC games any more, and they are all preowned anyway, so it's not like the people who made them are missing out on any money by you not buying them.

Nobody restocks GC games, so I don't have any moral objections to downloading and burning them...

Modding your 360 and then not buying GoW or whatever... you're kind of ripping off Epic aren't you?

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Posted: 28th Jul 2007 04:19 Edited at: 28th Jul 2007 04:19
Quote: "Modding your 360 and then not buying GoW or whatever... you're kind of ripping off Epic aren't you?"


Modding your GC and then not buying a used copy Resident Evil 4... you're kinda ripping off GameStop aren't you?


Quote: "Like, I am considering modding my GC because it's getting very hard to find GC games any more, and they are all preowned anyway, so it's not like the people who made them are missing out on any money by you not buying them."


The developers are maybe not missing out on your money, but the store you buy it from is - now why is it not OK to steal from Epic, but it's not a problem stealing from EB Games?


Quote: "My friends are worried they need to buy a new xbox now, doh!"


Then apparently Microsoft is doing something right

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Posted: 28th Jul 2007 11:52
Quote: "Modding your GC and then not buying a used copy Resident Evil 4... you're kinda ripping off GameStop aren't you?"


Who would do such a thing!

RE4 is up there with Metroid as the best GC games ever, a GC owner not owning originals of these games, well it's just wrong!.

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Posted: 28th Jul 2007 12:37
Quote: "Modding your GC and then not buying a used copy Resident Evil 4... you're kinda ripping off GameStop aren't you?"


I despise the used games market, I think it should be made illegal, it is driving prices to ridiculous levels and near killing tonnes of studios.

How is it fair that a studio only gets to sell it's game once, but GAME can sell it ten times. Ridiculous. The prices make me sick too, say for DS, they probably buy it from the actual creators for about £20 a copy, sell it for £30 a copy, then they buy that same copy back at about £10, sell it for £25!!!, then they do that again and again, never bothering to buy any more copies from the studio.

Literally used games are 90% the price of new ones.

The sooner we switch to 100% digital distribution, and companies can sell straight to the consumer, the better. Prices will drop down to whatever they normally sell to the shops for...

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Posted: 28th Jul 2007 13:43 Edited at: 28th Jul 2007 13:43
I don't think they will digital realease games because it means they will be easy to copy... although thinking about the Xbox live arcade is pretty secure. damn I'm not sure I'd like pay-per-play. Download times / bandwidth limits on a DVD title will be a pain.

If you think game are ripping you off on trade-ins take your stuff to ebay and do it yourself

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Posted: 28th Jul 2007 15:49


I mean it's ripping off the people who make the games - eBay is no better, if I sell/buy a copy of MGS on eBay, Konami don't get any money.

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Posted: 28th Jul 2007 19:15
Yeah but weren't you talking about games that are out of print in the first place?
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Posted: 28th Jul 2007 22:08 Edited at: 29th Jul 2007 00:57
...exactly?

If the game wasn't out of print, I would buy it properly and the studio would get money, because the shop would restock. As the game is out of print, anyway of buying it doesn't give the creators any money.

Did I miss something?

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Oh wait, I think you meant, why am I against shops selling preowned games that are out of print.

I'm not, I would actually rather buy a preowned out-of-print game just to have the case manual etc, and save having to solder something into my console.

I don't feel morally obligued to buy it from GAME though, simply because they have it. I would if I could, but only because it's better, not because I feel morally obliged to.

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Posted: 29th Jul 2007 20:47
i agree with Chris K, which is why i think that its ridiculous that SEGA and Nintendo don't allow mega drive and SNES roms to be FREELY distributed on the net, its not like they're making any money from them, and that way, the games get introduced to new generations and it stirs up interest in the franchises such as Sonic and Mario who started off on those consoles and still exist today.

i know that some people would abuse it, but how about if Nintendo and Sega controlled it themselves, there are plenty of great emulators out there which they could endorse and just have the ROMs to download from their own sites.

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Posted: 31st Jul 2007 02:04
Okay this is really off topic but goes well with console failure.
Ps3 or Playstation 3 has the most really copyed error failure, it's light goes red and flashes 3 times and bleeps. Think to Xbox 3 red lights! Major copy.

On-Topic if you realised the DS has errors. Anyone witness the Blue Screen of death???

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Posted: 31st Jul 2007 02:36
Not seen a DS crash but the iPod Nano I had crashed at least 2x a day!

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Posted: 31st Jul 2007 19:29
Quote: "which is why i think that its ridiculous that SEGA and Nintendo don't allow mega drive and SNES roms to be FREELY distributed on the net, its not like they're making any money from them"


What do you mean? They're still selling those games on the Wii Virtual Console--- not to mention Xbox Live Arcade and the umpteen catalog collections for every console under the sun.

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Posted: 31st Jul 2007 19:58
I recently bought a plug-into-TV game, like 2 Megadrive controllers with Sensible Soccer, Cannon Fodder, and MegaLoMania on it - there's probably plans to do more of this sorta stuff.

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