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Game King
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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 00:33 Edited at: 17th Aug 2007 00:42
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I have VISTA and I noticed when I play 2D games they tend to lag more than 3D games that I've played. My current project gets 500 FPS in a friend's Computer. And mine is brand new and it only gets 100 FPS.

Here's the Computer's Stats:


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EDIT~ Here's better info.


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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 00:36
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Well, it is Vista, what on Earth were you expecting? Performance?

Be quiet and stare at the alpha blended windows of the pointless Aero interface! Repress that ancient, out of date XP interface!

Or not.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Game King
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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 00:45
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Quote: "Well, it is Vista, what on Earth were you expecting? Performance?

Be quiet and stare at the alpha blended windows of the pointless Aero interface! Repress that ancient, out of date XP interface!

Or not."


What are you talking about? VISTA is very fast. And my computer works GREAT at 3D I'm just having problems with 2D for some reason. So please be quiet if you're not gonna help.

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 01:10
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There's no listing of graphics hardware on that info page.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Game King
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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 01:21
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Quote: "There's no listing of graphics hardware on that info page."


Ok. Would you have any idea were I could find info on my graphics hardware? thanks.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 11:53
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If VISTA has dxdiag, then run that from the run prompt.


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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 13:36
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What's your friend's PC running? XP or Vista?

I don't have a sig, live with it.
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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 16:23
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Your graphics and RAM scores aren't particularly high, which could be somewhat responsible, but I'd probably put it down to drivers.

Make sure you get the latest for your version of Vista (and not through Windows Update).

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bitJericho
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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 16:30 Edited at: 17th Aug 2007 16:31
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2.5 is not a good number for your gfx card? What are you running, a geforce 4?

Also, make sure you're not limited to 100 fps on your graphics card, turn vsync off.

Also, if you're using Anti aliasing that would make a big difference between comparing his performance against yours.

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Game King
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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 17:56 Edited at: 17th Aug 2007 17:57
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Quote: "If VISTA has dxdiag, then run that from the run prompt"


Thnx.

Quote: "What's your friend's PC running? XP or Vista?"

XP

Quote: "Your graphics and RAM scores aren't particularly high, which could be somewhat responsible, but I'd probably put it down to drivers.

Make sure you get the latest for your version of Vista (and not through Windows Update)."


How do I do that? do I go straight to the Microsoft website?

Quote: "2.5 is not a good number for your gfx card? What are you running, a geforce 4?

Also, make sure you're not limited to 100 fps on your graphics card, turn vsync off.

Also, if you're using Anti aliasing that would make a big difference between comparing his performance against yours."


How do I check If I'm limited to 100 fps? oh and I turned off vsync.

were can I find Anti aliasing ?

EDIT~ I attached this post with a new screenshot. It shows more info on my graphics card.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 19:27
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looks like the 6150le graphics card is a built in gfx card that is sold on hp machines. No matter how you swing it, this card will never do all that good, and I suspect you wont have much better performance in xp.

Quote: "Make sure you get the latest for your version of Vista (and not through Windows Update).""


I dunno what he's talking about, unless he means the dx9 update for windows vista, apparently vista uses and older version of dx9 that you can update by downloading it on the ms website...

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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 20:13
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Quote: "looks like the 6150le graphics card is a built in gfx card that is sold on hp machines. No matter how you swing it, this card will never do all that good, and I suspect you wont have much better performance in xp."


Yeah I had called the HP customer service and they said something like that too. They said I should buy a new portable Video Card so that the RAM that' being used wont be decreased because of the Game. U understand? Well, I don't think they said "portable" but something like that

Quote: "I dunno what he's talking about, unless he means the dx9 update for windows vista, apparently vista uses and older version of dx9 that you can update by downloading it on the ms website..."


Yes I upgraded the dx9.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 20:18
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Quote: "Yeah I had called the HP customer service and they said something like that too. They said I should buy a new portable Video Card so that the RAM that' being used wont be decreased because of the Game. U understand? Well, I don't think they said "portable" but something like that"


Heh, that's pretty funny. The ram issue isn't so much what's slowing you down, just a cheapy gfx card is what's inside it. If you have some money to buy a new graphics card, tell us what model of computer you got and we'll be able to recommend graphics cards that you would be able to install.

Of course, installing a card on your own will probably void your warranty, so you might be stuck, unless you want to pay an exorbitant amount to have HP do it for you.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 20:26
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To get dxdiag in Vista, use that search on the start menu and type in dxdiag.

If Only you were Me, the you'd understand.
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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 21:26
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Quote: "To get dxdiag in Vista, use that search on the start menu and type in dxdiag."


Yes. Thnx.

Quote: "Heh, that's pretty funny. The ram issue isn't so much what's slowing you down, just a cheapy gfx card is what's inside it. If you have some money to buy a new graphics card, tell us what model of computer you got and we'll be able to recommend graphics cards that you would be able to install.

Of course, installing a card on your own will probably void your warranty, so you might be stuck, unless you want to pay an exorbitant amount to have HP do it for you."


what you mean we'll? lol u work for HP?

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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 21:51
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you can buy graphics cards separately, you dont need to go through HP.

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Posted: 17th Aug 2007 22:33 Edited at: 17th Aug 2007 22:37
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Oh ok. Hmm.. How much ram will I need to have a stable FPS with 2D/3D?

and how much will it cost? thanks

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Posted: 18th Aug 2007 20:43 Edited at: 18th Aug 2007 20:43
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Your RAM is fine, you need a new graphics card, a decent one will run around 150 bucks on http://www.newegg.com

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Posted: 18th Aug 2007 22:16
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Quote: "Quote: "Make sure you get the latest for your version of Vista (and not through Windows Update).""

I dunno what he's talking about, unless he means the dx9 update for windows vista, apparently vista uses and older version of dx9 that you can update by downloading it on the ms website..."


I'm talking about device drivers. It's a bad move to get them from Windows Update, get them straight from the manufacturer instead.

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Posted: 19th Aug 2007 04:53
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Quote: "Your RAM is fine, you need a new graphics card, a decent one will run around 150 bucks on http://www.newegg.com"


Thank you very much

Quote: "I'm talking about device drivers. It's a bad move to get them from Windows Update, get them straight from the manufacturer instead."


Ok, I'll check it out.

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