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Geek Culture / Navy (maybe)

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Michael S
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Posted: 21st Aug 2007 07:49
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Im thinking of joining the NAVY. What do you guys know about it? My grandfather was in the navy for 20 years and 4 months. He served the gov. for 40 somthing years. He died last monday and its got me thinking. He was a Cheif Warren Officer 3rd class. So I was thinking of giving it a shot. I would appreciate it if you guys could help me out.

Thanks so much.

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Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 21st Aug 2007 08:01 Edited at: 21st Aug 2007 08:01
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Personally I'd rather join the Army or Marines. The Navy seems to see very little action and most of your time served is just spent in cramped ships out at sea patrolling for months at a time. But some people may rather do that. The most action you would probably see is pressing a button to launch a missle at a target miles away, or being hit by a missle or torpedo from someone miles away, which doesn't really appeal to me, I'd rather be be on the ground getting shot at and shooting back.


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Agent Dink
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I'd rather not join a military branch and have people shooting even spitballs at me, but that's just my personal thoughs on the matter.



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DrewG
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Okay first of all, don't listen to a word Gil says. He knows nothing about the Navy based on that post, and previous posts I've read of his.

The Navy does way more than sit around on a ship. It's Spec Ops are totally way better than any Army or Marine special forces. I mean, SEALs clear out the way for Marines, and give them a heads up weeks before they come in. Anyway, that's his Media influenced mind, so it's mainly up to you. For a safer Navy job, go Information Technician, since you are posting on this geeky board, or Intelligence. Both would be good computer jobs.. Or if you want money, go Nuke, 18k bonus for finishing A school.

Good luck,

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Michael S
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Posted: 21st Aug 2007 08:21
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I would not do well at a techy job probably xD I want to become an officer eventually if i decide to join.

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indi
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I dont waste time on a system that doesnt look after you once you a cripple.

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Luciferia
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My grandather was in the navy for a number of years. He got to a quite senior position and retired contently with his service in the war. Many people say they'd like to be in the army but they base their views on films like Rambo where all the enemies are in obvious places and have the mental agility of my left shoe. Small wonder the mortality rate isn't going well.
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Fallout
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I'd say AirForce no.1, then it's a toss up between Army and Navy. The Navy is a more relaxed establishment. You're more likely to be shot in the face in the Army. The Navy you will spent a lot of time on ships between shore-leave which can drive some people a little mental. The Army has much more geographical variety, but is probably tougher. Maybe Jimmy or Cash will pop by and give you a heads up on the Army.

Personally I would say the military is only a good move when you've exhausted all better possibilities. I just don't think it's worth potentially (even if the chance is slim) getting shot dead, or having to kill people, when there are other job opportunities out there. That's my personal opinion. When I was considering joining the Army, it was because I couldn't think of anything else to do. Having said that, most people who are in the military say it's a very rewarding time of their life, and wouldn't want to have done anything else. I get the feeling though that the ones that got killed or had to shoot someone probably don't feel quite the same.

Basically, ya know, on paper, I think it's an awesome career. But if you're one of the minority (or the increasing majority these days) who have to face real combat and potentially see your friends die, or get a limb blown off, or kill some people, then I think suddenly it's not quite so attractive.


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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 21st Aug 2007 15:20
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Quote: "Anyway, that's his Media influenced mind,"


I love that comment...Why? Because it's daft and immediately when returning from your last incident you immediately insult Gil - if he's mistaken, fine - but comments like that will likely move you closer to your next ban. Please a little bit nicer, you have no excuse for it.

People all have their experience and sources of info - if yours if different to Gil's then just say it with out comments stating he's wrong or by insulting his intelligence, I mean that's what happened last time and you ended up banned didn't you?

Eureka, everyone will have their opinion on what force you should go into, I'm a guy who would say no to the military, if you were insistent, I would recommend the Airforce but I'm sure others would beg to differ as people's experience is different and people's source of information, one person who likes the Navy or the Navy Seals my dislike the Army for a number of reasons, the same reasons might be why another dislikes the Navy, even though the Navy person's experience says otherwise. As the military has a range of experiences the differ place to place, so I'd walk in with an open mind to everyone's opinions - listen to negative points as much as the positives (if not more, as the negatives could easily ruin your experience) just make sure you know what you're doing and exactly what you want - because it's your future you're deciding here and you don't want to go for something in the end you won't enjoy or something you'll regret.

We've had the odd military guy over at OG, KeithC included of course, I'm sure they'll be able to give advice as well as these guys. When it comes to war, now that's something you'll really need to think about, you can die on the battle field and it's a tragic thing as I'm sure you remember Allan S at OG and his family were devastated - so it's a think you really got to think about. My Dad was a pilot in the Falklands war and it had my Mum really worried - okay the Falklands war wasn't much of a war as far as they go - but I'd look at all route before deciding in the end, it's not a decision you can make willy nilly or because people have told it it's the best thing - because it may not be - the media will create this bias of how the armed forces are so great but there are plenty in the world that'll beg to differ - so keep you mind open, clear and consider everything. Good luck with your choice mate.

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Fallout
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Posted: 21st Aug 2007 16:45
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The Falklands is a good example actually. I'm guessing that we lost more Naval personnel than Army in that conflict. If that's true, it shows being in the Navy isn't necessarily lower risk, and there's certainly nowhere to run when it hits the fan.


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Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 21st Aug 2007 18:25
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Quote: "Okay first of all, don't listen to a word Gil says. He knows nothing about the Navy based on that post, and previous posts I've read of his. "

I know a lot about the American Navy, I watch shows on the military (all branches) all the time .

Quote: "The Navy does way more than sit around on a ship. It's Spec Ops are totally way better than any Army or Marine special forces. I mean, SEALs clear out the way for Marines, and give them a heads up weeks before they come in. Anyway, that's his Media influenced mind, so it's mainly up to you."

And there you go, defending your SEAL idols again, like I'm personally attacking them, just because you want to be one. I assumed he wasn't talking about the SEALS, first of all. And second of all, I know what SEALS do, I probably watch more shows on them than the rest of Navy together. Don't act like I'm attacking and degrading the Navy (and especially the SEALS). I was only pointing out that you usually see less action than you would in the Marines or Army. And of course you have jobs on the ship, and perform training exercises, but you still spend much of your time not doing anything. If you're wanting to be a SEAL, I don't think your defensive attitude will do you much good in training .


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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 21st Aug 2007 18:33
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That's a good point, the armed forces tend to very strict and hate 'sass' or back-talk or any kind of negative attitude and certainly not a defensive attitude. Though somehow people like my Dad got away with pranks - but then my Grandad (Sid Price from the Milligan book Adolph Hitler) used to hang around and do the same thing with Spike Milligan, so what do expect, he'd have a bad influence when growing up.

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Gil Galvanti
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Quote: "Though somehow people like my Dad got away with pranks - but then my Grandad (Sid Price from the Milligan book Adolph Hitler) used to hang around and do the same thing with Spike Milligan, so what do expect, he'd have a bad influence when growing up. "

Heh, I think pranks are quite common in the military. I mean, what do you expect when you put a bunch of college-age young adults together for months at a time .


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Posted: 21st Aug 2007 19:04 Edited at: 21st Aug 2007 19:05
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Heheh, that is true - but I'm not talking about those, I'm talking about the higher ranking adults playing tricks on their superiors and those 'college-age' young people - though my Dad is one of those people that never learned, he works in the Barclays back stock exchange and returns to his old tricks...though they're more subtle and playing on people's stupidity, "I have the top of my right leg amputated, but not the bottom half" - "Oh, really? Did it hurt?..." I can see where I get it from.

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UnderLord
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Quote: "Many people say they'd like to be in the army but they base their views on films like Rambo where all the enemies are in obvious places and have the mental agility of my left shoe. Small wonder the mortality rate isn't going well."


Thats flame bait, ima leave it be but if jimmy see's that he might have a word or two to say about your ignorance.

"I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road."
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DrewG
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Posted: 21st Aug 2007 20:31 Edited at: 21st Aug 2007 20:32
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Quote: "And there you go, defending your SEAL idols again, like I'm personally attacking them, just because you want to be one. I assumed he wasn't talking about the SEALS, first of all. And second of all, I know what SEALS do, I probably watch more shows on them than the rest of Navy together. Don't act like I'm attacking and degrading the Navy (and especially the SEALS). I was only pointing out that you usually see less action than you would in the Marines or Army. And of course you have jobs on the ship, and perform training exercises, but you still spend much of your time not doing anything. If you're wanting to be a SEAL, I don't think your defensive attitude will do you much good in training ."


They aren't my idols, I'm just highly intrigued with the type of lifestyle.

Anyway, most I post is light hearted, and not so serious, as I tend to be laid back, but I can tell from your immediate interpretations of what I post, make you assume I have a defensive attitude. I wasn't purposely trying to bash any one branch. I think Army Rangers and Green Berets and Force Recon are cool parts of the Army and Marines.. And I'm not really defensive, except when posting on forums and stuff.

Anyway...
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