Sorry your browser is not supported!

You are using an outdated browser that does not support modern web technologies, in order to use this site please update to a new browser.

Browsers supported include Chrome, FireFox, Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer 10+ or Microsoft Edge.

Geek Culture / Gears of War for PC - YAY!

Author
Message
bond1
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 27th Oct 2005
Location:
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 02:45
Link
Just found out that Gears of War is being released for Windows. Great news for me since I don't have a 360. Gonna pick up Bioshock today, so it looks like I'll be set this holiday season.

----------------------------------------
"Your mom goes to college."
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Inspire
17
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 23rd Dec 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 02:48
Link
See, here's my predicament. I had two choices. Upgrade PC, or buy a 360. I voted 360, because my PC is fairly good. Now, Gears is coming to PC. What am I going to do? Apparently it has a ton of new content, so it has my interest.

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Agent Dink
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 30th Mar 2004
Location:
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 02:54
Link
I'm guessing it will be a Vista / DX10 only title, huh?



Back to top
Profile PM
bond1
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 27th Oct 2005
Location:
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 03:03
Link
It sounds like it's going to be sweet. Texture resolution is going to be bumped up for one, so it doesn't sound like it's going to be just a sloppy port.

----------------------------------------
"Your mom goes to college."
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Inspire
17
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 23rd Dec 2006
Location: Rochester, NY
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 03:32
Link
Still means I'm going to have to upgrade,

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Deathead
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 14th Oct 2006
Location:
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 04:47
Link
@Agent Dink: Funnily enough Xbox 360 don't use x10. So it might work for X9 or higher.(But still knowing games now Agent Dink is correct.)

Back to top
Profile PM Email
Agent Dink
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 30th Mar 2004
Location:
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 06:00
Link
Yeah, but Halo2 is X10 and Vista only ... it was on Xbox 1



Back to top
Profile PM
Keo C
17
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 3rd Aug 2007
Location: Somewhere between here and there.
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 06:27
Link
Quote: "Yeah, but Halo2 is X10 and Vista only ... it was on Xbox 1 "

That's what makes you buy Vista.

Uhhhhhhh.... I forgot
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Agent Dink
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 30th Mar 2004
Location:
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 06:33
Link
Doesn't make me buy Vista... Unfortunately for Microsoft it makes me not want to support the Satan that is marketing.



Back to top
Profile PM
Keo C
17
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 3rd Aug 2007
Location: Somewhere between here and there.
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 06:35
Link
It makes me wanna buy Vista. But I only make Min. System Requirements.

Uhhhhhhh.... I forgot
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Agent Dink
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 30th Mar 2004
Location:
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 06:36
Link
You can go and buy an Xbox on the cheap and a used copy of Halo2 for probably less than 1/4 the price of Vista lol.



Back to top
Profile PM
indi
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Earth, Brisbane, Australia
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 09:29 Edited at: 22nd Aug 2007 09:37
Link
say you get one day in every week to splurge 8 hours on gaming, provided your not a joystick junkie who would easily spend more on it.

8 x 52 weeks = 416 hours

Now lets look at the hardware.
Xbox is $650 in Australia and you get :

An Xbox 360 console
Component high definition cable
Ethernet cable
20GB hard drove
Media remote
One wireless controller


Extras you usually want are:
Wireless controller 80
Wireless networking adaptor 170
Headset 50
Faceplate 30

Now lets say you have 10 games and Gears of War is on Average $80
lets base 10 unreal games at that price. $800
This is not assuming you rent them or swap them etc..

now you need a nice plasma, luckily i got one cheap but they range from $1799 to $5000
lets say $3500

$5280 dollars for a low spec pc and a very nice plasma.
That equates to about $12 / hour for 1 year of gaming at the times and prospects.
Imagine the computer you could get for that and still have room for a plasma connected to it.
Not to even factor in the online costs of your intarweb account.

No Thanks, Id rather spend that amount of entertainment money flying around the world twice over.

Back to top
Profile PM Email
Van B
Moderator
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 8th Oct 2002
Location: Sunnyvale
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 09:39 Edited at: 22nd Aug 2007 09:43
Link
I think that Gears on the PC will be a bit weird, I mean it's squarely designed for joypad gaming, not keyboard and mouse - so it might be the first PC game that people prefer to use a pad on. Especially in multiplayer, when your active-reloading a lot and switching weapons a lot too, it would be pretty tricky on a PC I think. If people go and play Gears on the PC as if it was a PC shooter, then they'd be cut into bits within a few seconds .

It looks great, but I'd say get Bioshock on the PC first - it's much more of a PC orientated game.

Incidently Indi (new sitcom?), I have to disagree with your pricing - LCD TV's are about £300 these days for 32'' displays, About the same price for a 42'' Plasma. Ohh, and my 360 cost me £50, Gears came with it - see you can be a hardcore gamer on a budget - might not apply to readers in Australia, but then you guys got all the weather!.

We're going down... in a spiral to the ground...
Back to top
Profile PM Email
indi
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Earth, Brisbane, Australia
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 09:55
Link
We do pay a lot more for stuff to be shipped here as well as government taxes.
If the LCD isnt HDMI ready your really killing the quality and your refresh is pale compared to plasma unless your response times are a lot lower then current spec ones. burn in display is the only thing i have to avoid.

I have a 42 inch HD Plasma for $1799 about 2 years ago now.
I run a psx 1 and others on it, I run a g5 on it as well as a windows box.

How did you get a $100 - 360?. It has to be 2nd hand or you got it with a phone plan etc..
They are 24 month plans here at a minimum of 30 which is $720 AUD
I pay $2-$300 a year for my phone plan.

There are always exceptions to the rule, I was basing mine on full costs in AUD and a decent Plasma with the quality. You would find the price half of what i mentioned compared to pounds sterling.

Yeah I guess babes and weather is the compromise, quality food, fruit and vegetables, meat seafood space to swing a dead cat

It's the same with the ps2, I will wait till the prices are at least half, its still a tax deduction anyway for a multimedia company who develops games, however the outlay cost is radical for what you get.

Still doesnt boot my floppy however

Id rather fly around the world even once then get ubeh thumb muscles
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Van B
Moderator
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 8th Oct 2002
Location: Sunnyvale
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 10:32
Link
Here's my telly:
http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=19768
Has 2 HDMI, VGA input, takes the RGB inputs from the 360, lots of scart inputs, and has a 8ms response time.
It's a damn nice TV, makes a helluva difference, although it is only being used for watching DVD's and the 360 - don't watch much actual TV these days. I just need one of those fancy optical cables to hook the 360 up to my surround sound and I'll be set, the neighbors will hate me but who cares.

The 360 was nothing but good timing, a neighbor got thrown out by his gf and had no money, so was selling his stuff REAL cheap . We don't necessarily get things cheaper in the UK, we just have desperate people quite often, some of them ready to sell vital organs in order to get to the pub. I would have paid more for it, I mean I'd pay £50 for the hard drive alone.

We're going down... in a spiral to the ground...
Back to top
Profile PM Email
bond1
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 27th Oct 2005
Location:
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 10:44
Link
Quote: "I think that Gears on the PC will be a bit weird, I mean it's squarely designed for joypad gaming, not keyboard and mouse - so it might be the first PC game that people prefer to use a pad on."



Right, and I'm REALLY hoping there is plug-and-play support for the wireless Xbox 360 joypad for Windows. No goofy key mapping, just plug and play (the way it SHOULD be).

By the way, thanks to whomever fixed the typo in my thread title.

----------------------------------------
"Your mom goes to college."
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Van B
Moderator
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 8th Oct 2002
Location: Sunnyvale
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 10:50
Link
There simply has to be the option to use the 360 pad on the PC version, anything less would be a travesty.

We're going down... in a spiral to the ground...
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Chris K
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 7th Oct 2003
Location: Lake Hylia
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 13:01 Edited at: 22nd Aug 2007 13:03
Link
WTF @ indi's maths there...?

Quote: "Imagine the computer you could get for that and still have room for a plasma connected to it."


Are you trying to suggest that for the same price as a 360, Plasma, and 10 games, you could get a PC, Plasma, and 10 games?! You included all this random stuff when you added up to console, and nothing when you added up the PC. I mean, you realise you would have to pay for a wireless controller for your PC, right? And a wireless network adapter? And 10 games??

360 + Plasma = £500
Round the world twice over a year = £8000

Gotta love how you have time for that trip ^ but only enough time for 8hrs a week gaming.

Why do you feel the need to come and crap on console gaming? It is undeniably the cheaper option to PC gaming.

-= Out here in the fields, I fight for my meals =-
Back to top
Profile PM
Seppuku Arts
Moderator
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Aug 2004
Location: Cambridgeshire, England
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 13:08
Link
It's official...All games I wanna play on the 360 are on the PC, are there any demos out...okay it probably won't run on my current PC, but I like to see how far over system requirements I can get this thing to run, so far running GRAW smoothly at low settings has been a success.

Hakuna Matata
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Fallout
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 1st Sep 2002
Location: Basingstoke, England
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 13:20
Link
Quote: "It is undeniably the cheaper option to PC gaming"


It is to start out, but once you have a PC, imo, it's not much more expensive to upgrade core components than to buy new consoles. If you're the sort that buys a new game every couple of weeks, then the premium on console games plays a part too.

Price wise, from scratch, console vs pc gaming is no contest. Console is hands down cheaper. But once you own a PC, you can generally keep it in the same ball park as a new console by just upgrading core components, for a similar price.


Back to top
Profile PM
Seppuku Arts
Moderator
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Aug 2004
Location: Cambridgeshire, England
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 13:33
Link
Personally I prefer PC to console because by keeping to a spec I can improve the performance of my graphics applications and my programming applications at the same time - plus I'd be able to support more in shaders. Which although I'd be paying more - it doesn't only benefit the gaming side of what I do. A decent graphics card and 2gb ram would, Core Duo 2 processors do me for DBPro, 3D Modelling and rendering as well games...Of course that's with my planned PC. And when the time comes I can upgrade to 4 gb ram and to an even better graphics card for which are no biggies.

Hakuna Matata
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Van B
Moderator
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 8th Oct 2002
Location: Sunnyvale
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 13:40
Link
For me the main draw with PC gaming is the people you end up playing with. I mean I play a lot of games on a lot of different platforms - but when it's a good multiplayer FPS I'm after, well the PC wins hands down.

I play Battlefield2 on XBox live, and get tired of being TK'd, tired of nobody working together, tired of being base-raped, tired of unstructured and frustrating battles with idiots. I've bought 4 copies of BF2 for the 360 (son and 2 brothers), so I have people I can bloomin play with who'll back me up!.

BF2142 on the PC on the other hand, well for some reason I always get into the game more, because there's more structure - you actually get people who do drop ammo and health for you, will back you up and not just jump in a vehicle and p-off before you can get in. Especially in Titan mode, I mean it actually makes you want to play as a support class, these days I just don't care if my side win or loose in BF2 on Live.

GRAW on the 360 in co-op mission mode is pretty good though, I think that has a bit of a higher age bracket to it, people want to complete the mission usually.

We're going down... in a spiral to the ground...
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Fallout
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 1st Sep 2002
Location: Basingstoke, England
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 13:43
Link
Basically what you're saying is, the numpty:decent gamer ratio is higher on consoles than on the PC. I would agree.


Back to top
Profile PM
Seppuku Arts
Moderator
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Aug 2004
Location: Cambridgeshire, England
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 13:53
Link
Indeed, I've never played online on a console, but on the PC, some of the gamers are quite decent, I mean especially when you're new to the game, I remember back when I played Summoner online the guys on there gave me a lot of stuff and helped me train my character up. Other games it seems a lot of fair play a lot of the time (though you do get the odd elitist numbskull). Though it does make me laugh when someone randomly calls me a noob - my PC lags, what do I care if you shoot me before I spot you, I'll just frag you later.

Hakuna Matata
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Raven
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 23rd Mar 2005
Location: Hertfordshire, England
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 15:01 Edited at: 22nd Aug 2007 15:10
Link
Quote: "Yeah, but Halo2 is X10 and Vista only ... it was on Xbox 1"


No it's not. Halo2 is DirectX9.0c, runs just fine on Windows XP provided you disable Live; a Live is Vista-only. There are several patches to fix this if you're on XP/2000.

You're probably thinking of Lost Planet, as it's currently the ONLY DirectX10 game on the market. Although I hear patches are being released for others, like Call of Juarez (which isn't out here yet)

Quote: "Just found out that Gears of War is being released for Windows."


It'll be the first game to play over Live without crashing every few minutes if you're on Windows (yeah! i'm looking at you ShadowRun), plus PC owners get an exclusive additional story that is just as large as the original one. That is on-top of the original game.

We also don't have to use Live to play against other Windows owners, just for those on Live.. GameSpy Arcade is the technology behind the PC-to-PC system.

Finally get to fight that big ass monster that chases you after the mansion level.

Quote: "Right, and I'm REALLY hoping there is plug-and-play support for the wireless Xbox 360 joypad for Windows. No goofy key mapping, just plug and play (the way it SHOULD be)."


In Windows XP, you have to install the Xbox Controller for Windows drivers; but on Vista it's plug'n'play supported. (even updates on it's own)

Although playing older games with it, the controls aren't mapped properly imo; and they've totally removed vibration features for directinput. As very few games support XInput this is a pain in the arse tbh... Currently the only games I know fully support it are:

Tomb Raider (Legend/Anniversary), FEAR, ShadowRun, Halo2 for Vista, Flight Simulator 2008, Lost Planet, Need For Speed-Series (after Underground 2)

Thos are the only ones I know that officially support it via XInput; really given how long it takes to provide support for the Xinput control system (certainly less than a day of programming) then why more companies don't patch to support it.. especially given it's now the only format of controller being produced for the PC (both Logitech, Saitek and Gravis are all making 360 compatible controllers for the PC) it means developers really need to pull their fingers out and support them better!

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Agent Dink
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 30th Mar 2004
Location:
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 16:21
Link
Quote: "No it's not. Halo2 is DirectX9.0c, runs just fine on Windows XP provided you disable Live; a Live is Vista-only. There are several patches to fix this if you're on XP/2000."


Oh really? Nice. The box is just stamped with GAMES FOR WINDOWS... REQUIRES WINDOWS VISTA and the like. Thanks for clearing that up.



Back to top
Profile PM
Keo C
17
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 3rd Aug 2007
Location: Somewhere between here and there.
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 16:46
Link
Quote: "You can go and buy an Xbox on the cheap and a used copy of Halo2 for probably less than 1/4 the price of Vista"

I have one lol. I just like to babel

Uhhhhhhh.... I forgot
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Accoun
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 9th Jan 2006
Location: The other end of the galaxy...
Posted: 22nd Aug 2007 17:51 Edited at: 22nd Aug 2007 17:52
Link
Quote: "Quote: "No it's not. Halo2 is DirectX9.0c, runs just fine on Windows XP provided you disable Live; a Live is Vista-only. There are several patches to fix this if you're on XP/2000."

Oh really? Nice. The box is just stamped with GAMES FOR WINDOWS... REQUIRES WINDOWS VISTA and the like."

It's DirectX9, and Vista-only, but it has already been "UnVisted" by some cracking groups.

Make games, not war.

Back to top
Profile PM
indi
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 26th Aug 2002
Location: Earth, Brisbane, Australia
Posted: 23rd Aug 2007 03:14
Link
you gotta have some wires crossed chris if you cant fathom that, let alone take a non personal opinion by one person as some end all be all bashing of a system, meh kids.
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Back to top

Login to post a reply

Server time is: 2024-11-19 03:44:21
Your offset time is: 2024-11-19 03:44:21