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Geek Culture / Dvorak users?

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hyrichter
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Posted: 24th Aug 2007 06:30 Edited at: 24th Aug 2007 06:31
I'm just curious to know how many, if any, Dvorak users we have around here? I've been starting to learn it, and like it so far(although I'm typing this message in QWERTY right now.) It's just rather hard to get the new layout into my head, but I am making decent headway.

I consider myself quite a good QWERTY typist, and I'm just wondering if any other touch-typers have been able to easily and successfully make the switch.

Oh, BTW, is this article written by the Nicholas Thompson that hangs around here?
http://www.slate.com/?id=2061547

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Agent Dink
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Posted: 24th Aug 2007 08:01
Wow, I looked up the Dvorak layout on wikipedia and thought it looked queer at first... Then I actually started pretend typing some if statements using one of the images in the article as a reference as to where my fingers would go... I barely had to move my fingers off the home row... That is something I would almost consider switching too. It's just a matter of teaching myself the new layout and alternating back to QWERTY for my life away from home



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Posted: 24th Aug 2007 13:39
It's an interesting thing but it's not in my priority to improve my typing as that would waste a lot of precious time for me. This is also somthing that you will have plenty of problems with in the future unless you get a Dvorak keyboard, not very likely on a laptop.

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Posted: 24th Aug 2007 13:58
I once plucked out all the keys on a qwerty keyboard and re-arranged them to Dvorak. It was a pain typing on it, being so accustomed to QWERTY, so I eventually switched back.

hyrichter
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Posted: 24th Aug 2007 14:05
Quote: "This is also somthing that you will have plenty of problems with in the future unless you get a Dvorak keyboard, not very likely on a laptop."

Umm, no. All you do is switch the layout in the control panel. Since I never look at the keyboard anyway, it doesn't matter what the keys say on them.

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Posted: 24th Aug 2007 16:30
Quote: "It's just a matter of teaching myself the new layout and alternating back to QWERTY for my life away from home"


It's very easy to switch from one to the other, you can do it at work or at a library no problem, just make sure you switch it back for the other guy

On a side note, I once made a short lived attempt, but realized I didn't have the time or patience, I may try again in the future.

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Posted: 24th Aug 2007 17:07
hyrichter:
You NEVER look at the keyboard?

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hyrichter
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Posted: 24th Aug 2007 19:36
Almost never. The only times are when I when I might use a special function key that's specific to a certain type of keyboard.

What I hate is when I try to use a different keyboard, and the home, end, page up, etc. keys are laid out differently. At work, they moved the computers around and I got a different keyboard with those keys in slightly different places. I had to promptly change it back. I use the same keyboard at home & work.

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Posted: 24th Aug 2007 21:05
Quote: "I once plucked out all the keys on a qwerty keyboard and re-arranged them to Dvorak. It was a pain typing on it, being so accustomed to QWERTY, so I eventually switched back."


Wouldn't that just change the lettering on the keyboard, but leave the QWERTY letter order intact? Last time I pulled keys off a keyboard it was just the square key, but the motherboard buttons remained, so you wouldn't actually be changing the keyboard to DVORAK. Know what I mean.

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Posted: 24th Aug 2007 21:21
i think he left out the </sarcasm> tag or hes a big fat lying fishy

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Posted: 24th Aug 2007 21:26
Or perhaps he changed the keyboard layout in Windows.

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Posted: 25th Aug 2007 05:22
I've had a shot at it.

I actually have my keyboard keys rearranged in DVORAK right now, but Windows still has it layed out as QWERTY.

It makes it alot easier to learn when you can look down at the keyboard to find that elusive key that isn't in the spot you thought it was.

I got fairly decent at DVORAK, doing some online tests for speed and accuracy, but about a month after I stopped, I forgot it all.

It's great having my keyboard keys rearranged, though. If anyone tries to use my PC (living in a dorm, roomates, etc, are always trying to), then they get so confused and give up.

I'm a bit like Hyrichter in the sense that I rarely look at the keyboard even for numpad, or Home/Del, etc. I know exactly where all the keys are, so there's no point looking

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Posted: 26th Aug 2007 18:11
Quote: "hyrichter:
You NEVER look at the keyboard?"


I never look at mine. except perhaps in the corner of my vision... I also rarely make any typos except the typos that are native to QWERTY keyboards.

Being a touch typist, I decided to try out a Dvorak about 3 years ago. False advertising. I gave it 6 months to get used to the layout. When I did, I found that I wasn't typing any faster than on a QWERTY. Nor was I without the typos, just they were different typos than on a QWERTY. Don't let the Dvorakians convince you that their keyboards are free from typos. They just have different typos.

Nothing I say is intended to be rude. My autism means that I do not know what is rude and what isn't rude. I apologize if I seem rude. It is not my intention.
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Posted: 27th Aug 2007 09:03
Quote: "I wasn't typing any faster than on a QWERTY. Nor was I without the typos"


Then you've missed the point of DVORAK. It's designed so your fingers don't have to move as far to type common words. Hence, reducing RSI, and then, once you're good enough, you may be able to type faster for most common words (since your fingers don't have to leave the home keys).

If you've been using QWERTY for many years, and only gave DVORAK 6 months, it's not really a good comparison, is it?

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