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Zombie 20
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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 04:40 Edited at: 4th Sep 2007 04:49
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Wow...normally I'd keep this to myself since it is a private e-mail address but well I just thought that this very last bit should be brought out..I mean I just wanted to know if I could help and I get a response like this.



So um..yea I mean its not hurting my feelings from accomplishment standpoint, its hurting because I geniunely wanted to help him and maybe talk this all out and have him come back and have some fun on the fourms. I just feel very taken aback like I was attacked..but I did ask if he was okay and I guess he's not. Had to edit out his bad language.

Just wrote back to him..so if you would like to read it it will be in the code box..its not bad, I don't write angry e-mails, not who I am.


That hurt indi..I'll be straight with ya..that really hurt. I can respect that you don't want help, you want to make it on your own dime and who doesn't right, its a feeling of accomplishment. True I may be new to programming but I have made strides, I have asked questions..a noob is someone that forcibly tries to make people angry by writing the same thing over and over and over again, I don't remember doing that.

I can write programs..albeit they are nothing compared to what you have done but they're still mine and I still care about every single one of them. Its quite obvious you are going through some tough times right now and I just wanted you to know that there is someone out there that will listen and not be biased, someone that will help you sort things out if you need be..but I can see from your e-mail that you really don't want help from anyone, espcially someone like me I guess.

I can understand that you are angry but I do have a question, why the lash out at me? What did I do to you except pry a little to attempt to
help you out, true I should not have pried but I thought maybe we could talk it out. If you really want to leave this great community like that I cannot stop you..but I want you to know I'll always be here to help you out..I don't give up on anyone indi, never have and never will, thats not who I am.

But..yes thank you I am having a good life thank you wishing me a good one, I wish you a happy life as well..I hope whatever is ailing you leaves your presence so you can be happy again. I'm really sorry that things didn't work out for you here at TGC..but I want you to know that I didn't always agree with your decisions but I still respected your ability to make difficult choices while throwing your emotion to the side, thats not easy and is commendable. Have a good one indi, I wish you the best.

Ian

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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 04:48
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Haha. You shouldn't help Sergio, really. There's some of that kind on these forums, a while back I tried to help someone with a chess-like game about gangsters and I got angry replies too. Just remember, helping out is never a bad thing to do - some people are just pricks. Let them be and don't give up helping out.


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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 04:51 Edited at: 4th Sep 2007 04:53
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I think the english is too good for Sergio, i'm guessing it's Indi?

Whoever it is just leave 'em to calm down for a few years

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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 04:51
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Thanks rami..man I just felt terrible when I read that..was wondering what has happened to make him blast off like this, I want to help him but he has to want it too you know? I'm not looking to turn this into a flamebait or anything, I just wanted people to know.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 05:01
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As you say yourself, not everyone wants to be helped. Some people just don't know how to make clear they don't need help. You replied maturely and friendly, which is commendable as well. It takes some selfdiscipline to stay calm after such a reaction. Just let it be.


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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 05:02 Edited at: 4th Sep 2007 05:04
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Yup Yup!! haha..well I must say I could use a soda haha. Ah why get mad mate..I mean I pried into his life so I had to expect something I suppose and I'm pretty sure he didn't mean it, that seemed like a yell to say "you know just leave me be" but he was angry thats all. Well I guess I'm done with this thread so you guys can chat amongst it but the offer will always be on the table for him.

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Agent Dink
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Wow, I sent him an e-mail asking if he needed help or anything. I wonder if I'm gonna get a similar reply

Man, I dunno what's up with him. It's like he just snapped and... I dunno. I feel sorry for him...

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The crazy
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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 05:57 Edited at: 4th Sep 2007 06:13
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Wow... Thats all I can say.

[EDIT] And of all people, to you man. You've always been hella nice to everyone zombie. Jeez. Talk about Hero(to some) to Zero eh?

And I just re-read that for about the fourth time and dag, yo. Was he typing with his eyes closed? lol. I hate spelling mistakes, but I NEVER usually say anything about it. But if you're gonna write a letter like that you should at least make an attempt at doing it and sounding at least a little "intelectuel"...

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lol. He's an "intellectual"? ROFLWAFFLE

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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 06:23 Edited at: 4th Sep 2007 06:28
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Nevermind.


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Benjamin
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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 06:27 Edited at: 4th Sep 2007 06:31
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I'm pretty sure that's not indi. Notice that person used the word "you're".

Edit: He used it twice. It's definitely not indi.

Besides, indi talks nothing like that.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 06:29
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mmm..well I didn't really know him well..I do hope its not him..surely we could all work it out. But..if it is someone playing a joke I must say I don't really appreciate it.

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Quote: "I don't understand how indi ever became a mod. He didn't act like one since I've been around. It was almost like he was bipolar, happy and saying "cheers mate" in one thread, while in the other he was jumping all over people ."


Agreed. It seemed to me it was all about if he was having a good day or a bad day. Of all the mods, I think he's the only one who's never helped me out or gave me a decent comment. Not saying that to flame of course, just the truth.

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Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 06:35
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Quote: "Agreed. It seemed to me it was all about if he was having a good day or a bad day. Of all the mods, I think he's the only one who's never helped me out or gave me a decent comment. Not saying that to flame of course, just the truth."

Heh, I took the statement out because I wasn't sure if I was the only one who thought that and didn't want to get flamed, and I'm not even sure that email is from indi .


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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 06:59
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Zombie, I wouldn't take it personally.
Before he went skitz on everyone else, he tried to tear me a new one over msn. Reckon he has finally totally lost the plot.
If this is one of his random "tests of peoples reactions" then hope he likes being alone because only the really stupid would want to stick by someone who has been how he has been the past week.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 08:34
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Yea..well I'm a natural pryer and helper..I have to try I guess. I'll wait to see what the response to the e-mail is and then I'll make a decision I guess..it only hurt becasue of just the outward attack of it all.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 11:42
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Quote: "Notice that person used the word "you're"."


I believe it was 'youre' - probably made a typo from his usual spelling.

I was actually going to send him an email in response to his last thread, glad I didn't, it would have been a waste of time. Whoever that was (probably Indi after his current attitude to the community) is an a-hole for the response...and better and more intellectual that made me laugh (especially with his spelling/punctuation mistakes - I'm not pedantic on spelling, but if he's going to respond to you like that Zombie, I feel that I should be)

Quote: "At least I can write a program please! So no I
dont need your help im better then everyone else on those forums"


this is something I wouldn't have thought Indi would say, but he's said a lot recently I though he wouldn't say that mods have vouched to say it's him. So I'm going to say it is him and apologise later if it turns out I'm wrong. This comments isn't in the least true, Dwarven Tales isn't the best project on here (Can many really say what they've got is better than the likes of Geisha house?) and his modelling, though good, but there are people around here that are better than him at that...Then what about moral high-ground, well I needn't say anything about that...Personality or modesty? Apparently not. So what is it about him that makes him 'better than everyone else'? To be honest I though I'd never meet an Australian snob, I always thought that was an English thing.


Personally, I am amused by Indi's recent outburst (or this apparent Indi in case the 'it may not be indi' people are right) because it's a level of pathetic-ness that none of us would lower to. I've been severely flamed and have responded quite nastily to it, my inbox then got full of spam soon after and scams to get my bank details...amusing but gmail groups emails together so that joke was on the guy (once the array of spam had stopped, I had just 4 groups to delete)

All you can do is not to take it personally, and find something that's ironic, hypocritical or amusing about it and think 'At least I'm more mature than he is' - and when that thought comes from the likes of you and I then that really is saying something.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 12:31 Edited at: 4th Sep 2007 12:41
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Indi!?
I was really shocked when i saw what he apparently wrote. Are you a 100% sure he wrote it? I dont really know him, but i liked him ever since he was the first person to vote for me in the tgc modelling comp (which i won)--> "sweet mother of god, Aralox you have my vote mate."
Perhaps that makes my opinion on him a little biased though.

What is this attitude that everyone keeps mentioning which indi has?

EDIT: dont worry i read the thread.
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=113433&b=2
all i can say is oh my god....


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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 12:38
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I always thought Indi was a decent guy...but since he quit his mod status he has made a public personal attack on Cattle Rustler, got banned, returned with a leaving thread that gave his whole opinion on DBP and the community which was quite negative and inaccurate about the community part. Apparently behind 'closed doors' he's been like that towards other people and as Raven mentioned he went crazy on him over MSN. Unfortunately this is the internet and you can think one thing about someone for so long and then they suddenly reveal another bit of personality we don't expect, I've seen it before on another forum - the internet is a bad way to judge someone's sense of character.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 13:15 Edited at: 4th Sep 2007 13:16
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Quote: "Apparently behind 'closed doors' he's been like that towards other people and as Raven mentioned he went crazy on him over MSN"


Thats why his blocked on my msn, i foudn him helpfull before but then when i asked him how his dwarden tales game was coming along he went mental at me so hes blocked. He was once a nice guy. But not any more.

[EDIT] Fogot to mention that he also said he was making $3000 USD a day from his new job. Wich i think we all know is a lie.
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OK this might sound a little nasty, but I think Dwarven Tales is how this started. See Indi released a demo of DT a couple of weeks ago, and the forum did not implode with appreciation of his master works. In the entire lifetime of DBPro Indi has nudged around it and not really done very much. That would be fine if he didn't have this new attitude regarding the smell of his poop.

Back when DT was in DBClassic it was a sweet looking game, and Indi got a lot of recognition and respect for it. I think he's frustrated that he can't get that back, frustrated at his own life, just frustrated and is taking it out on those closest to him. Sadly we're closest to him it seems. In 6 months or so I'll bet he comes back, when most folk have forgotten this stuff, personally I don't forget much, hell I remember the last time Indi went feral after posting someones address - threw in his mod badge and stormed off when people suggested that wasn't the most sensible thing to do. Anyone else remember that?

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Indi blew up on me on the old forums, just because I said that someone's picture needed more contrast. I knew that he could blow up, and I noticed that he sometimes said that he had been drinking too much. When Indi became a Mod on here I even sent Rich an Email to warn him that Indi was a trouble maker. But Rich said that Indi was a good Mod, so I let it drop.

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Perhaps it was your new girlfriend...

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Quote: "hell I remember the last time Indi went feral after posting someones address - threw in his mod badge and stormed off when people suggested that wasn't the most sensible thing to do. Anyone else remember that?"


yeah I remember that quite vividly, it's why I've been a bit paranoid about him on msn after he wanted to be all "chummy";
some of us have long memories for being burnt by people.

it's almost like he has some form of skitzophrenia, simply because of the way he'll snap. experienced his change in personality on msn within a couple of conversations.

this current spat, for those who don't believe it is indi; it certainly is. simply because this is the exact attitude he had with me on msn, but if it wasn't indi then he has told them a buttload of stuff that quite frankly only an long lasting forum member would know. the chances of someone like that using his msn account and other web-based account is slim.

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after indi got banned I received an email from his address but it definitely wasnt him speaking. I suspect the email to zombie 20 was this same person masquerading as indi. It doesnt matter however, as those threads that were made here were definitely indi speaking.

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That sounds like the kind of guy who one day his brain goes "ping" and he runs around chopping people up with a samurai sword he bought off ebay.

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I'm just wondering, did indi get banned permanently? Or just suspended for a few weeks?


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His ban already ended, but he left the forums. (For how long, we shall see)


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Quote: "I suspect the email to zombie 20 was this same person masquerading as indi."


Do you have anything to back that up with or is it a gut feeling?

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Quote: "I suspect the email to zombie 20 was this same person masquerading as indi"


I think it is Indi i have had a few convos with him aswell and he would randomly say something like "Bugger this" and go ofline now i know he probly blocked me becouse he would then come on tomorow and i would say hi. He goes ofline.
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Posted: 4th Sep 2007 17:45 Edited at: 4th Sep 2007 17:47
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Quote: "Do you have anything to back that up with or is it a gut feeling?"

I have nothing to prove that the jerk who emailed me, is also the same person who emailed zombie20, other than there are apparently now at least 2 emails floating around that dont "sound" like Indi, yet come from his address. So I guess in that respect its a "gut feeling".

who knows, maybe it is really indi but the emails dont match his years of postings and various rants. I smell an imposter as far as the emails go. The threads speak for themselves.

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Actually Van B.

You are correct now i think of it he did mention it ALOT to me. And DT's graphics arnt very impressive.
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this is probably a good point to move on to nicer things

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