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easter bunny
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They all seemed somewhat expressionless in the promo video, but I'm looking forward to seeing how well it all translates into 3d. It's installing now

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No one has claimed page yet, so my page.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 14:13 Edited at: 12th Dec 2014 14:30
No one has claimed budokaiman yet, so my budokaiman.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 16:07
Quote: "Here in the US, your license pretty much is your standard ID."


Same here, the only ID i had before I got my license was my passport which is a bit of a pain to carry around

Quote: "Here, this is what NSW driver's licenses look like, with all the identifying info blanked out:"


That looks a lot nicer than the swedish licenses, ours are a pink color with lots of text and a gray picture of our face

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 16:11
So at work, one of our newer cashiers continuously runs customer's checks for the incorrect amount, or cashes out the order instead of running the check, and things like that and suchlike.

When a check is "mistendered", we only have a 20 minute window to reverse it. After 20 minutes and one second, it's too late, and there's literally nothing we can do about it.

The check was written for $145.31, she cashed out the first $100.00 and then only ran the check for $15.31. How she got the order to go through after that is beyond me, because the screen should have showed a remaining balance anyway. I asked her about it and she said she gave the woman $30.00 cash back because she needed it.

So yeah, her drawer was short by almost $200.00 and I'm pretty sure she got fired, because she's mistendered checks so many times, but last night definitely takes the cake.

Gosh I love my job

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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 16:15
I guess she forgot to add the 4 in there but if she has done it before she should defenitvley have looked at the remaining balance...

You should post your stories to http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromretail, a whole subreddit dedicated to stupid things (usualy customers) in retail

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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 17:07 Edited at: 12th Dec 2014 17:23
Quote: "I guess she forgot to add the 4 in there but if she has done it before she should defenitvley have looked at the remaining balance..."


Indeed, but even so there was still a significant amount not paid for. Actually the customer only paid $15.31 from their checking account, but because this particular cashier gave her $30.00 in cash directly from the till, she technically got her groceries for free AND made a profit for $14.69

Oh and the cashier didn't bring the "misunderstanding" to my attention until 25 minutes after the order went through, so I couldn't do anything to fix it. So the company lost $145.31+$14.69= $160.00 due to the idiotic mistake.

If I had the authority I honestly would have fired her on the spot, because she's lost the company almost $500 by now from all the mistendered checks.


EDIT: Indicium! *flashes Indicium call sign into the night sky*

Check your PM!

MrVanlentine, same goes for you!

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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 17:35
Quote: " Just the fact that you even bother doing all that makes me wonder what you're chatting about... "

Well, the United States House of Representatives just passed a law saying it's legal for them to intercept private communications without a warrant. So I probably won't be too far behind TheComet in getting a lot of my stuff encrypted/secured.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 17:51
Quote: "Oh and the cashier didn't bring the "misunderstanding" to my attention until 25 minutes after the order went through, so I couldn't do anything to fix it."


So she also knew about the issue and that it was fixable? It sounds like she should defenitivley be fired

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 18:05
She absolutely knew. Her excuse was that since it was so busy, she just "didn't want to bother [me]". I told her that no matter how busy we are in the future, if a check goes through for the wrong amount, we need to know about immediately or else we can't fix it.


I guarantee when I walk in there at noon today, and see the schedule for the day, her name will be oranged out and we'll be filling her shifts for the next week. People have been fired for less, I really don't know why they let her keep getting away with it for so long.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 19:46
Quote: "Well, the United States House of Representatives just passed a law saying it's legal for them to intercept private communications without a warrant. So I probably won't be too far behind TheComet in getting a lot of my stuff encrypted/secured."


plz don't blow yourself up
Dar13
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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 19:49
Quote: " plz don't blow yourself up "

??

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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 22:00
You're lucky I read that post, I was going to skip over it!
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Posted: 12th Dec 2014 23:25 Edited at: 12th Dec 2014 23:25
Quote: "United States House of Representatives"
Only the reps? Or did the Senate pass it too? Did the President sign it?

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Posted: 13th Dec 2014 03:14
Just reps for now. Senate is expected to sign it as its part of the Intelligence Authorization Act, not by itself. Similar to how the NDAA this year(or last?) allows for indefinite detention of US citizens.

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Posted: 13th Dec 2014 14:32
Time to concatenate two strings in C...



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budokaiman
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Posted: 13th Dec 2014 16:06
I think I'm content with how my zsh theme came out:


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Posted: 13th Dec 2014 16:27 Edited at: 13th Dec 2014 16:28
Nice! I'm not much a fan of multi-lined prompts, I feel it clutters a little too much.



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Posted: 13th Dec 2014 17:01
The points that were previously available are not available anymore

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Posted: 13th Dec 2014 17:26
Quote: "Nice! I'm not much a fan of multi-lined prompts, I feel it clutters a little too much."

I had a one line prompt, but I think two lines are less cluttered, depending on the information on them. I mostly look at the directory that I'm in, so that's on the same line as the input, but having the user and machine is useful when I need to know if I'm using root or ssh'd into another machine so I keep that on the line above.

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 13th Dec 2014 18:33 Edited at: 13th Dec 2014 19:38
For some reason whenever I restart my iMac, AppGameKit forgets the location of my project files and I have to set everything back up, including resetting the theme and font size to the ones I like.


Mildly annoying.

EDIT: If I did it right, my sig will now lead to my blog. Let's find out!

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Posted: 13th Dec 2014 20:57
It does work.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 01:02
Quote: ""Giraffe is soft, Gorilla is hard." - Phaelax"


Which thread is that from?

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 01:21
TheComet wrote: "Which thread is that from?"

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=205658&b=2&msg=2458200#m2458200

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 02:37
Ah yes, the jiff thread.

No Santa, they're called jifts.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 03:28 Edited at: 14th Dec 2014 03:32
Quote: "No Santa, they're called jifts."
xD

So, all you Europeans with standard transmissions, I have come to the bright (or dark?) side. Earlier today, I drove a manual around for quite some time; I have known how to drive one before, but today was my first drive in one that went (mostly) well. I love the feeling of having that amount of control over the vehicle; the automatic really removes a lot of your control. In addition, the lack of a torque converter as found in an automatic means there is a more direct connection between the engine and wheels, and that's a wonderful thing. And ahh, the feeling of the shift stick moving into gear is a lovely feeling. Of course, sometimes, it refused to get in gear.

It's a lovely car I drove, a '92 Nissan Pathfinder:



Just like that one, but dark green.

I had a few fun situations. I was driving up a steep hill through a neighborhood, and there came a point where an attempted gear change was just not going right. The road was clear, so I figured I would just stop and gather my bearings with the gears and such, and get going from there. I pushed in the clutch, but I forgot to let out the gas. The engine revved up to insane speeds (probably 6 on the tachy, and that engine doesn't like fast speeds), and it made a righteously loud noise, right next to six or so houses. Fun!

I also inadvertently pulled a little quarter turn doughnut on a dirt road; gotta learn to make my stop-start transitions a little more smooth in first gear.

How do we all pronounce 'Nissan'? Here in the States, we say 'nee - sahn'.

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I pronounce it "niss-ann "
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you guys have some unsightly terminal colours

Quote: "How do we all pronounce 'Nissan'? Here in the States, we say 'nee - sahn'."


Oniisaaaaan

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Quote: "So, all you Europeans with standard transmissions, I have come to the bright (or dark?) side. Earlier today, I drove a manual around for quite some time; I have known how to drive one before, but today was my first drive in one that went (mostly) well. "


Does your licence allow you to drive manual transmission? Just checking, cause in some countries you can get a licence just to drive automatic, which doesn't allow you to drive manual.
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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 09:02 Edited at: 14th Dec 2014 09:04
Good question! Here in the US, once you get your license, you are qualified to operate any vehicle, including boats, passenger planes, and light rail locomotives.

Jokes aside, licenses here in the US do allow you to drive both manual and automatic transmissions; there are absolutely no training requirements for any person who wishes to hop into a manual car. I think the requirement for a special license to drive a manual would be a good idea, but the implementation of such a requirement would be massive.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 11:45
Are you kidding? You can do your test in an automatic and then drive a manual?
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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 14:49 Edited at: 14th Dec 2014 14:51
Quote: "Are you kidding? You can do your test in an automatic and then drive a manual?"


It should be the other way around...

Driving an automatic after you've been driving a manual is like switching from C++ to C: Look at all the stuff I don't have to care about any more.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 16:20
Quote: "Driving an automatic after you've been driving a manual is like switching from C++ to C: Look at all the stuff I don't have to care about any more."

I think you have that language progression backwards.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 17:10
Quote: "I think you have that language progression backwards."


I'd argue otherwise. Writing classes in C++ is frustratingly hard because there are way too many things you have to consider:
- Polymorphism? (public virtual destructor or protected non-virtual destructor)
- Inheritance?
- Rule of 3 (C++11 made it rule of 5)
--> Copy constructor? Are there members that require a deep copy?
--> Assignment requires deep copy?
--> Destructor?
--> Move constructor?
--> Move assignment?
- Operator overloads?
- Member functions:
--> Is the function const or not?
--> Do you pass arguments by const reference, reference, rvalue reference, pointer, const pointer, pointer const, or copy?
--> Do you perfect-forward the arguments (std::forward<T> or move (std::move<T> the arguments?
--> Is the return value const?
--> Is the function public, protected, or private?
--> Is the function virtual or not?
--> Is the function pure virtual or not?
--> Is the function static or not?
- Exceptions
--> Are your functions nothrow or can exceptions occur?
--> Memory management considerations when an exception occurs (as to not create a memory leak)
- Thread safety

And that's just the main considerations. There are a TON of little things you have to pick up on the way.

What about templates? Would making your class templated be better for a more generic approach?
What about memory management? When do you use smart pointers, when do you allocate on the stack?
When do you forward declare classes, when do you include them?

Not to mention the whole concept of OOP design being a hard concept to grasp.
...

There's just too much to consider. In C, you can forget all of that. There's usually only one way to do it in C: The right way. The only caveat in C is there are no destructors, so you have to make sure you free all of the memory you allocate manually.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 18:07
Quote: "Jokes aside, licenses here in the US do allow you to drive both manual and automatic transmissions; there are absolutely no training requirements for any person who wishes to hop into a manual car. I think the requirement for a special license to drive a manual would be a good idea, but the implementation of such a requirement would be massive."


That seems pretty unsafe, when I started driving I had some situations where I had a too high gear and stopped in the middle of a road or in a roundabout which isn't the most ideal thing to do. During one of my tests, my gear was to high when turning left across the other lane, I ended up almost stopping in the middle of that lane with a car coming my way. If the car I was driving wouldn't have had automatic engine restart I might have been hit by the other car. And that was after having driven in cars with manual gear for more than a year.

And it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to implement. You let everyone that has a license right now still have it on the same terms as they do now but any new license is restricted to automatic or manual+auto. When you get your license renewed, the correct vechicle type is printed onto the license. Anyone with an old license would get manual+auto automatically while new drivers would only get autmomatic. I think that system has been used in sweden because my mom is allowed to driver motorcycles which was part of a regular license when she got it but im not allowed to drive them because that has changed. All it would take is adding some more text to the license

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Well if you're trying to use every possible feature of the C++ standard, then yeah you have to worry about all of that. No one in reality can actually do that, so they choose a subset of the standard and then adhere to it. And lots of those bullet points you threw out there can be answered quite succinctly and are usually handled in the planning stage rather than the implementation stage.

As an example, "When do you forward declare classes, when do you include them?" can be answered by "When only holding pointers or references(IIRC you can have partially defined references), forward declare. Else include the class."

The only tricky ones are the move semantics and the exception handling, and those are considerations even in C. Some libraries in C use the very archaic C exception handling mechanisms (setjmp, longjmp, etc).

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 19:34
Quote: "No one in reality can actually do that, so they choose a subset of the standard and then adhere to it."


But that's exactly why the language is such a bloated piece of crap. How can you think that's a good thing? There are no clear lines between these "subsets" and subsequently everyone's code is a horrible mixture of different styles and practices.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 19:50
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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 21:05 Edited at: 14th Dec 2014 21:06
Quote: "Are you kidding? You can do your test in an automatic and then drive a manual?"
Yep! Just as I have done. I am not sure if other states in the US are different, but that is how it is here in Colorado.

Quote: "when I started driving I had some situations where I had a too high gear and stopped in the middle of a road or in a roundabout which isn't the most ideal thing to do."
Ah, I can see how such a situation would occur. And haha, we have hardly any roundabouts here in the US. They are starting to pop up in brand new city projects, but they are few and far between. I never do well in them, even in an automatic.

I died laughing when I saw the emoticons in Comet's post:



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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 21:20
Quote: "But that's exactly why the language is such a bloated piece of crap. How can you think that's a good thing? There are no clear lines between these "subsets" and subsequently everyone's code is a horrible mixture of different styles and practices."

It's a good thing because it gives the developer power to choose which features to use while not locking them in on certain features either. C++ is not an OOP language, it's a language that supports multiple programming paradigms and it's always been that way(though it's only recently that functional and structural has become practical).

I'm not sure what's so bad about different companies/projects using different parts of the C++ standard. At work I rarely use more than a "C with classes" approach due to working on embedded hardware and performance concerns, but for personal projects I can implement a dynamically allocated RAII-friendly style of programming that allows a certain amount of flexibility with the frameworks I usually work in(Qt).

Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 21:36
Hmm I think I need to figure out how to implement scroll bars in my tile map editor.

Or I suppose I could just make it so that if you press the arrow keys it moves at a certain speed.

I want to make a game with a built-in map editor that lets the player create their own levels. It's going to be kind of a puzzle game, based off of another idea I had a while ago. Basically, the player is in a room and needs to find the way out by positioning certain moveable tiles into their correct slots. The player will be able to hoist them into the air and jump with them in order to take them into their proper spots.

There will be three tiles per level, and they're red, green and blue, with their spots matching accordingly. First few levels will be easy, but when the player takes too long to get all the tiles to their spot, the spots will change color and the player will have to swap accordingly. After every fifth swap, the time left before the next swap will be lessened a certain amount.

I think it's a good idea for a first game with AppGameKit, and will let me figure out how to save tile maps out and load them in-game. I'm not sure what I'll call it, but it should be interesting nonetheless

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 21:43 Edited at: 14th Dec 2014 22:00
Quote: "Hmm I think I need to figure out how to implement scroll bars in my tile map editor."


Scrollbars suck for that kind of thing, I suggest doing something with the mouse. You could take an RTS approach and have the map scroll when the mouse goes right to the edge of the map. Middle-clicking and dragging the mouse could also drag-scroll the map.

Have some snow:





















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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 22:02
Quote: "Scrollbars suck for that kind of thing, I suggest doing something with the mouse. You could take an RTS approach and have the map scroll when the mouse goes right to the edge of the map. Middle-clicking and dragging the mouse could also drag-scroll the map."

This is exactly what I have in my map editor, it is much better than scroll bars.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 22:04
Well, for this game I realized I don't really need any scrolling, since the game will consist of fixed-size rooms.

Of course, for those with a lower resolution, I will need to implement scrolling, so I think my best bet is to use what you suggest and do something similar to RTS games!

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have some australia:






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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 23:27
Yikes.

Speaking of Australia, is it true you guys eat KANGAROO?!?!?!?! I mean vegemite I can understand, but KANGAROO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!




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Quote: " I mean vegemite I can understand"

Have you ever actually had vegemite?

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Posted: 14th Dec 2014 23:38 Edited at: 14th Dec 2014 23:39
Quote: "Speaking of Australia, is it true you guys eat KANGAROO?!?!?!?! I mean vegemite I can understand, but KANGAROO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"


It's a very tough and dark kind of meat, not really that enjoyable. What are we supposed to do with the 30% overpopulation of kangaroos we kill every year?

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