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Agent Dink
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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 16:09
Yeah, so yesterday I was in the truck with my dad on the way home from a job and we're getting off the freeway. I was dozing off and I hear my dad say, hey there was an accident. I look up and see a smashed in bumper on an SUV and I'm like, oh yeah, thinking well it wasn't too bad. Only a little fender bender. Then we notice all the people rushing about on the other side of the off ramp around a crashed motorcycle. The guy was laying there, and as far as I can tell he didn't have his leg from below the knee. All I could see was a slightly twisted bloody stump. He must have been riding his wife or girlfriend on the back, because she was laying not too far away with some other people around her, though she was laying where I really couldn't see any injuries. We yelled over and made sure they had an ambulance and help on the way and they said they did. There were already like 15 people there helping and it looked as under control as it could get with non-medically trained people so we didn't get out. The cops showed up a few seconds later and we could hear the sirens of the ambulances so we knew it would be alright to go.

I don't know how those people are doing today, but I know almost for sure that guy will never walk on his own left leg again. We think the accident happened getting on to the on ramp, he probably made a left turn on as the lady in the SUV was making a right. and they hit. But there had to have been alot of impact or speed involved, otherwise he was fighting to keep his balance for a bit because his cycle was at least 70 feet from the SUV.

So overall, I'm wondering who rides motorcycles here and your take on them as far as safety goes. Is it worth the risk, etc. I have been pretty sure for quite sometime I was never going to ride one on the road, just because of what *could* happen, but after seeing this accident I think I'll just stick to video games

Some people will probably say "there's a risk in anything you do" and yeah, I know, not saying in injury like that or worse couldn't happen in a car or something.

But yeah, post up your comments and thoughts here.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 16:20 Edited at: 14th Sep 2007 16:25
Motorbikes are kinda dangerous, not in themselfs but that other road users are idots and don't look where they are going, then you don't realy have much between you and the tarmac.

I used to cycle 12 miles a day to Uni on a mountain bike and was nealy killed several time. If i ran the country I would let pedal cyclists use the pavement, where there are no cycle lanes. Ok there might be an odd cyclist/pedestian collision but less likely to cause death.

One problem is SUVs and trucks are to high. This give them bad visibility if a cyclist is near. Most of my near deaths were caused by vehivles turning left (we drive on the left in the UK) or pulling to the curb and not knowing i was along side them.

One occasion there was road works and a hug queue of traffic so a bus let it's passenger off in the road, wham! Straight in front of me. Stupid bus driver just drove off leaving us both mangled in the road. I tell ya if i could get my hands on him! Had to buy a new wheel!

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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 17:01 Edited at: 14th Sep 2007 17:03
I think motorcycles are great, they carry out the work of Darwinism all over the planet.

Seriously though i think they're fun but not worth the risk because you are practically invisible to other drivers on the road. Like someone has already said here it's the other drivers that cause the risk, you'd pretty much be fine if you were the only person on the road (sure there would be some risk but not nearly as much, especially with Kevlar clothing nice helmet etc...). My uncle laid his bike down at 40 mph on a way to a family party thing i was at, but since he was wearing a new Kevlar shirt he had bought the worst he had was a heat rash on his arm.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 17:08
Cycles are fun but the one thing I hate is the drivers in cars..no respect from them. They will harrass you and try to physce you out *seen it happen*, its kinda sick.

Other than the risk of injury, hey I know if I step on my regular bike that I'm now a lower class on the road and that in all the 12 years I've been biking, I'm going to have a serious crash one day..but hey you know you deal with it when it happens, as long as you are safe then you should be fine, most drivers are courteous.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 17:21
I have alot of respect for cyclists on the road. I try to give them as much space as possible and don't pass them until I know it's 100% safe to do so. I can't say I like them on the road though. They do leave most drivers with some paranoia because anytime that cyclist may hit a rock or chuck hole and swerve around or crash, he could then just roll right into your wheels and whatever. I don't like driving around them very much. I'm ok with motorcyclists on the road. They usually go faster than me so there's no passing involved.

My uncle recently started riding motorcycles, he loves them and he says anytime there's ever an issue riding one on the road is because of careless people on cell phones. He's a perfectly confident rider but there's always the other guy.

I don't trust anyone while driving. I've seen some pretty stupid things happen on the road and I've only been driving for 2 years at most. One time an idiot was behind me suddenly he swerves into the lane next to me and passes me, jumps in right in front of me, makes me slam my brakes because he happens to be turning at the next intersection which was only about 200 feet away when he started to pass me. This is so stupid because by the time he turned he would have been starting his turn had he just waited for me to pass the intersection. I wasn't driving slow or anything, I was doing the (usually) legal 5 over at least. Some people are just impatient sometimes...

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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 17:31
Hehehe..here's my worst horror story ever, this is one of the only times I can say that I should be dead and that someone is looking out for me up there. Riding home on my bike and going through a different path, the turnpike is right up ahead and I just have to cross this off-ramp to get to my backroad going home, so I see this tractor trailer coming and I have about a good 1500 ft so I start biking across and then he starts to speed up and my f****ing bike jams, my shoelace had got caught in it. So now I'm stuck in this 18-wheeler's path trying to move and he finally sees me and puts on the brakes, I saw the grill a foot from my face, I was almost toast. Needless to say, I reevaulated my position out on the road, I always had respect for the drivers but I decided to up my awareness when I was biking, since then I've been one of the safest bikers on the road.

The type of cyclists that piss me off are the ones that actually get in a lane of traffic *sigh...city bikers* I think its funny how in my small town they think that will fly. I chuckle and say to myself if they get hit its not my problem, their in the way, I stay well out of the path of cars and I go on the side where I can see them coming, I don't want the offchance that the driver won't see me and I won't have a chance to move if he/she is being stupid behind the wheel.

As far as driving, just like cycling, one of the safest ones out there, I won't deny I do push the speed limit a bit but hey you know what I have total control over my car, unlike so many I learned how mine ticks, I can feel its movements. Mind you, I'm not speeding around at 100+ speeds but its still enough to cause some damage if I were to be in an accident. These days though I'm out of a car and really want one back, but until then its back to having adventures on the old bike, lot of memories haha.

Oh my I've been rambling again.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 17:59 Edited at: 14th Sep 2007 18:05
Bikes arnt bad, but it depends of the driver. I remeber once driving back from the royal arms in leads a few years ago and a motor bike stoped i the middle of the road. My dab obvisl just over took him becouse there wasnt much of a risk. Then the morot bike rider comes and over takes us and turns aroudnd attempting to stick this middle thinger up. What he didnt notice is terhe was a speed bumb just ahead. That gave him a shock. He got a bumpy ride.
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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 18:47
Just slowly ban SUVs and people carriers for people who do not need them. It would reduce the accident problems, reduce environmental damage, remove a lot of ugly cars off the road, and few need a vehicle that big, if anyone at all.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 18:54
I was listening to the news a few days ago and the quoted a stat that I thought was kind of funny. It was supposed to be the typical evening news scare mongering. When I first heard it, I said Wow!... then I thought more about it.

The stat was:
Nearly half of all motorcycle fatalaties involve riders NOT wearing a helmet.

It is supposed to make you think:
If you are not wearing a helmet, you have a 50/50 chance of not living.
What it actually says is that less than half of the people that die while riding a motorcycle were not wearing a helmet. More than half of people that die while riding a motorcycle WERE wearing a helmet.




I would have loved to ride a motorcycle when I was younger. Now that I have 3 young kids at home, it isn't worth the risk. They are dangerous but mostly because of other drivers.


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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 18:55
Well... my family has a 15 passenger van... and it's necessary. 9 of those seats are filled when we all go somewhere, not counting my grandma or the other baby who's due in April. Yeah... SUV's look small to me

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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 19:11
Well, that's necessary. But, often, I see SUVs or people carriers capable of dragging 15 people with only one or two inside. To be honest, I can't remember seeing a full one.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 19:12
Quote: "Just slowly ban SUVs and people carriers for people who do not need them. It would reduce the accident problems, reduce environmental damage, remove a lot of ugly cars off the road, and few need a vehicle that big, if anyone at all."


This should make you happy: I just bought an awesome new Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 8 cylinder 5.7 liter Hemi engine. It is wonderful.


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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 19:22
I honestly think if everyone drove big SUV's we'd all be safer but it's just looking at it from the other end of the spectrum.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 19:23 Edited at: 14th Sep 2007 19:38
Quote: "More than half of people that die while riding a motorcycle WERE wearing a helmet. "


Are you suggesting that a helmet caused the fatality. I bet if you compare the number of deaths likely caused due to trauma to the head of people wearing helmets and those without, that the number would be far greater for those who did not have helmets. I would also hazard a guess that the number of people who died due to head trauma wearing a helmet were nearly 0.

There is no reason to not wear a helmet on a motorcycle.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 19:31 Edited at: 14th Sep 2007 19:32
Quote: "Are you suggesting that a helmet caused the fatality. I bet if you compare the number of deaths likely caused due to trauma to the head of people wearing helmets and those without, that the number would be far greater for those who did not have helmets. I would also hazard a guess that the number of people who died due to head trauma wearing a helmet were nearly 0.

There is no reason to not wear a helmet on a motorcycle."


No, no, no!
I was laughing at how the news presented the facts. If you looked at it properly, far more people wear a helmet than don't wear a helmet. So, if half of the fatalities are from people NOT wearing a helmet, then it is definately more dangerous. The news wanted to make it sound like if you were in an accident while riding a motorcycle, you had a 50/50 shot of dying.
If I were to ride a motorcycle, I would definately wear a helmet. I also think that anyone else that rides SHOULD wear a helmet. Ultimately, it is their choice though!


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Posted: 14th Sep 2007 21:05 Edited at: 14th Sep 2007 21:05
Quote: "This should make you happy: I just bought an awesome new Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 8 cylinder 5.7 liter Hemi engine. It is wonderful."


Did you not hear Oil was $80 a barrel

Quote: "I honestly think if everyone drove big SUV's we'd all be safer but it's just looking at it from the other end of the spectrum."


Only idiots would start driving Tanks to show how more powerful they are.

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Quote: "Did you not hear Oil was $80 a barrel "


It isn't THAT bad on gas. It does better than my last vehicle. Plus, it is still a LOT cheaper at the pump than what you get it for. I was over in the UK a couple of years ago. If I was paying those prices for gasoline, I think I would drive a horse and buggy to work
Seriously though, my other car is a Honda Civic. It gets great gas milage. My Jeep is my family car. With 3 little kids in car seats, I need something that is about that big.


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Here are few statistics for you from the Department of Transport (UK) if considering getting a motorbike:
Around 45 percent of all motorcycle fatalities involve no other vehicle.
Over 13 percent of non fatal motorcycle accidents involve property damage but no injury.
Half of all the fatalities are related to negotiating a curve prior to the crash.
Over 80 percent of the fatalities occur off roadway.
Almost two thirds of the fatalities were associated with speeding.
Almost 60 percent of motorcyclist fatalities occur at night.
Over half of the fatalities involved a collision with a fixed object.

I have been in a bad motorcycle crash (which was a car drivers fault), and I can tell you - its no fun. I won't get on one now at all and there is no way I would let my daughter have one when she is old enough. They really are too dangerous and lure you into a false sense of invincibility. You get the idea you can manoeuver around any problems or vehicles which get in your way. Just not true.

As a car driver, one of the things which winds me up the most are when you are in slow moving traffic and a motorcycle cuts around you and into the gap infront making you slam your brakes on. They are oblivious to this as their journey is obviously more important than anyone elses and they need to get there those few seconds quicker. Grrrr.

On the subject of bicycles, in my experience around half of cyclists ride well. The other half are complete idiots who think they should have priority in every situation. They have no problem riding between the cars and the pavement where they obviously can't be seen, then complain if they get cut up. There was me thinking undertaking was illegal. In my opinion the whole 'environment' issue doesn't apply either as the queues of traffic they cause behind them in towns and cities causes much more polution than if they were in a car doing a suitable speed for the road.
I will stop my rambling now before I get road rage.
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Posted: 16th Sep 2007 00:58
Quote: "I just bought an awesome new Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 8 cylinder 5.7 liter Hemi engine. It is wonderful.

It isn't THAT bad on gas. It does better than my last vehicle"


Audi, Citreon, Toyota, Peugeot are all selling cars NOW that do 65mpg, Fiat is showing off an engine that does 90mpg (ETA 2009) I realy worry that when the time comes that SUVs cost too much to run the US motor industry won't be ready and it will be the end of it

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Posted: 16th Sep 2007 01:09
Drive motorcycles. Wear helmets. The end.

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And body armor

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Posted: 16th Sep 2007 07:37
Quote: "If I were to ride a motorcycle, I would definately wear a helmet. I also think that anyone else that rides SHOULD wear a helmet. Ultimately, it is their choice though!"

Is that at choice where you live? Here it's law.

Only time I almost got killed in traffic was in Egypt, some guy rushed up a entrance to the highway and thought he could just take 3 lanes to the innermost lane. Shame I was in the second lane. I braked so hard I was afraid I was going to slip, and at 12 meters high that isn't a good prospect. Didn't slip, noone behind me. Thank God - there was family in the car.


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I've been looking at buying a bike. No, not a crotch rocket, a real bike like harley style.

Bikes are fine, as long as you have the intelligence on how to ride it properly.


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Quote: "Is that at choice where you live? Here it's law."


Yes. You can legally choose to not wear a helmet here in Pennsylvania. It is against the law to not wear your seatbelt in a car though (which is fine with me, just odd considering the no helmet law)!


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Quote: "Yes. You can legally choose to not wear a helmet here in Pennsylvania. It is against the law to not wear your seatbelt in a car though (which is fine with me, just odd considering the no helmet law)!"


Indeed odd, lol.


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Posted: 16th Sep 2007 14:56 Edited at: 16th Sep 2007 14:57
I've had two accidents while on my motorbike (neither of which were my fault)... I still wouldn't give up riding though... I have an incredible sense of freedom while riding that you just don't get when in a car... Rather than feel invincible though, I am constantly aware of how fragile I actually am...

Quote: "As a car driver, one of the things which winds me up the most are when you are in slow moving traffic and a motorcycle cuts around you and into the gap infront making you slam your brakes on"


Car drivers do this too... they think your lane is moving quicker than their's so they just indicate and move... 'White van man' has this down to a fine art

I do think there needs to be a change in the way you get your licence though... I learned to ride when I was living in England... I had a full car licence so that meant I had my provisional motorbike licence... I bought a motorbike (Honda CG 125) and had it delivered to where I had to take my compulsory basic training (c.b.t)... I went to the c.b.t. rode a round a car park for half a day... then went out 'in formation' ,with the fully qualified rider who was assessing me and another guy on his c.b.t., and rode around in the traffic... We came back and then I was given a piece of paper that said I could ride on the road for up to 2 years with L-plates before I had to either repeat the c.b.t. or take the full test... So I had 1 day's worth of training, only half of which was actually on the road and I was able to ride home... At the time I didn't feel this was really long enough and I still don't... Now I have a Yamaha R6 and it goes turbo fast... vroom

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Well apparently people in the Liverpool Royal call motorcyclists Organ Donors. I don't think they are safe at all. I think they are alright if you drive at sensible speeds though.

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I totally posted in the wrong thread, dink

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I think you posted in the wrong thread Jerico. LOL.

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I agree.
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Quote: "Quote: "As a car driver, one of the things which winds me up the most are when you are in slow moving traffic and a motorcycle cuts around you and into the gap infront making you slam your brakes on"

Car drivers do this too... they think your lane is moving quicker than their's so they just indicate and move... 'White van man' has this down to a fine art"

Very true but not often when there is only a single lane!
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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 00:53
Quote: "Drive motorcycles. Wear helmets. The end."


How would that help the many motorcyclists who have lost legs in road accidents?

Quote: "And body armor"


That's getting more like it.

Speaking purely from personal experience, I know very few people who ride motorcycles - but two of those have lost legs in motorcycle accidents. On the other hand, most people I know drive cars - but only one of those has been in a serious accident and he still has all body parts (as far as I know ).

The simple fact is that motorcyclists are extremely prone to serious injury regardless of who is at fault in an accident.

Don't drive one.
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rode on my very first bike yesterday with my friend logan at the helm, he gave me some heavy leather that is used in races and a full helmet. He cruised along at 50 casue I told him I was a little nervous and he was a great driver and nobody gave us any crap on the road either..it was really fun and I told him I couldn't wait to do it again.

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The problem is that people take driving for granted. Men get cocky and women start doing their bloody make-up in the mirror!
I bet 99% of accidents are caused by people not paying attention to what they\\\'re doing.
Smokers and Mobile phone users are the worst; buy a hands-free and stop bloody smoking!

I\\\'ve seen a motorbike over-take an SUV, and the guy inside took this as an insult to his manhood, he caught up with the biker and started knocking into the back of his bike! Crazy fook!
Why don\\\'t men have balls anymore? Deal with it you insignificant dumb azz, he probably had a tiny penis.

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I know a guy who fell off and some coins in his pocket were driven straight in to his leg. And my uncles brother was killed when he fell off whilst going down a hill and crashing.
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Posted: 18th Sep 2007 23:23
Proposals for a new minimal speed limit of 90mph on all British roads with two or more lanes were taken with large celebrations last night as people finally stop getting bored and falling asleep at the wheel!

Dreaming on. Wouldn't half be good, though.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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I think you should be graded in your driving test and you have to stick to a separate lane depending on how good you are

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I love fast cars, but motorcycles never appealed. Strap yourself to a jet powered lawn mower as far as I care.

But with safety you just have to look at the statistics. Can't remember them off the top of my head but bad injuries and deaths are nutterly higher as a percentage than car drivers if I remember rightly. And then when you see a police program where this cop is saying how motorcyclist's heads just "pop right off" in an accident quite a lot (helmet or no helmet) then it really puts you off...

Heh, you should see them here (Cyprus). I think they all think they are the Terminator. Pretty much no-one wears a helmet and there are loads of these super loud (no loudness laws here I believe) bikes. Lots of accidents as they all drive like spanners here. Then when you see them driving with their small kid in front of them (also no helmet) while talking on the phone and just gazing around (not at the road at all), you sort of wonder if it's just natures way of reducing the gene pool. Ooooh, just heard a massive screech outside again (on a clear straight road with no complications....).

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Posted: 19th Sep 2007 11:48
I'm in the process of getting a dirt bike. Just bought my helmet and goggles. Boots, gloves, pants, and jacket next, then bike, then actual lessons and passing my test. I will mostly be green laning though, and maybe trying out the local motocross track (there's one about 2 miles from my house) when I get confident enough. No crazy supermans! Just riding about and getting a small amount of air.

As Dazzag said, the statistics for getting chewed up on the road speak for themselves, so I've never been too keen on getting a road bike. Having said that, I've often been out mountain biking on local country roads, getting knackered after 5 miles, just to have some dudes on scramblers shoot past. So I've got a mate from work doing it too, and the plan is to just go exploring the countryside, and the hundreds of overgrown country path ways round here, and holing up in remote random forests with a disposable bbq for some eats! It'll be road legal too, so when I need to use it on the road, the option will be available, but that's not gonna be a regular thing.

I'm becoming a right petrol head these days. All my money going on engines.



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