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Pyramid Games Ltd
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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 03:54
Just wandering if anyone here does. I think they do exist. I love to explore haunted places and have heard and saw some unexplainable things.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 04:50 Edited at: 17th Sep 2007 04:51
I didn't but since watching this "imagining the tenth dimension" on you tube i'm thinking they might be creatures from other dimensions passing through! wooooooooooh!
look at Carl Sagan explaining the fourth dimension, that is exactly what I think it is, except we are the flat-landers

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 04:52
Fourth dimension is time, isn't it?

I don't believe in ghost, however reassuring it may be to believe in them.


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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 04:58 Edited at: 17th Sep 2007 05:00
Quote: "I don't believe in ghost, however reassuring it may be to believe in them."


Reassuring? I don't find it reasurring to think that "people" in other dimensions or whatever are watching me go potty.

I used to believe in ghosts, but that was back when the wheel was still at the drawing board.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 05:33
Well, it does have a reassuring touch that you might be able to watch what you leave behind, doesn't it?

Okay, maybe not in your case. Never mind.


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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 05:42
Not trying to flame just Imo i don't think they exist and that the ghost stories that people are saying could just be coincidences and stuff like that, but who am i to say they aren't real they can't be proved to exist and they can't be proved to not exist. Thats my opinion.
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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 06:12
Quote: "Reassuring? I don't find it reasurring to think that "people" in other dimensions or whatever are watching me go potty.
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Reassuring in the sense that if ghosts do exist, it's a sign that there is some form of existence after death. Which may come as some kind of relief to atheists and people who believe death is the absolute end.

Personally, I don't believe in ghosts and once you die you're conscious self will cease to exist for good. Which is depressing to think about and also borderline religious talk, so I think I'll leave it there.


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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 08:18
Quote: "Reassuring? I don't find it reasurring to think that "people" in other dimensions or whatever are watching me go potty."


No thats me. And fyi I'm in the same dimension as you.

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Well, I'm certainly willing to entertain the idea. I will say though that if ghosts do exist, I doubt they're human spirits that are lingering on Earth.

To me it seems a lot more likely that ghosts are some form of something (maybe even just a natural phenomena), that we cannot comprehend and therefore our mind fools us into seeing something more recognisable. And only in the cases where it isn't just someone mistaking something else for a ghost. I have friends who have had pretty strange ghost stories even when they were with large groups of people (as in it happened to more than just them), and the ones that I think are hard to explain, really don't sound like they have to be a human spirit, or even look like one.

My ghostly encounters are from when I was little, and had no control over my overly active imagination. But every single time I had one, I was able to see what it actually was later. A cool idea is that maybe what I saw or heard or felt the first time was closer to the truth, and the later explanation was just a disguise.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 09:40
I would say I belive in ghosts, but for a more religious cause which I don't think I will go into detail here.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 10:15
Quote: "Well, it does have a reassuring touch that you might be able to watch what you leave behind, doesn't it?

Okay, maybe not in your case. Never mind."


Lol.

Actually, i don't really want to see what i leave behind in any case. It will be too depressing.


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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 10:25
well go ahead laugh at zombie but I've had more than enough proof on several occasions to prove their existence and not be a bunch of random conicendences. I know their there and I wish them well.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 11:49
Yeah, I won't get into why as it may start some debate and problems, but I do believe to some extent in ghosts.

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Yea I believe ghosts are spirits of dead people which are stuck on the earth somehow.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 12:45
They may exist. I think that they do some how but even we need are organs to stay alive how do thy stay alive?. Well thats what a scientist who wants to find a resonable exsplination for evreything would say. I think it would be better if he left some things untold.
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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 13:30
I believe in ghosts. My house is a bit haunted, because every few mornings, when I go down to the basement and on my PC, a breeze passes through by my neck. There are no air outlets in my basement whatsoever (or windows for that matter). Other times, the doors just slam shut, whenever the windows are closed, and all my family members are in sight. One time before all of this, a glowing blur, passed from one room to the other. I am not lying at all...


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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 13:50
Quote: "I believe in ghosts. My house is a bit haunted, because every few mornings, when I go down to the basement and on my PC, a breeze passes through by my neck. There are no air outlets in my basement whatsoever (or windows for that matter). Other times, the doors just slam shut, whenever the windows are closed, and all my family members are in sight. One time before all of this, a glowing blur, passed from one room to the other. I am not lying at all..."


I belive you. But i wouldent wnat to live there. Things like that freak me out if i was alone in the house wich i am for alot of the time.
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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 14:21
Come on people we have all seen the film:
Ghosts are merely programs doing something they are not meant to be doing.

But seriously... No I don't believe in them.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 16:01
I don't believe in them at all, which is a bit ironic considering my choice of username.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 16:46
My cousin's house is "haunted" we think.

There have been many many times we've experienced something. Well, I've only experienced one thing, but he and his family have experienced quite a few strange occurrences.

Once we were playing hide and seek with his sister and sister's friend. We had set some rules, no hiding in the basement(way too many hiding places and hard to navigate in the dark), and no turning on any lights to look for the people hiding. So, we searched most everywhere and couldn't find them. We thought we'd check the basement for the heck of it. We were about 8 or so, there was no way we were gonna go down the basement in the dark at that age. Hahaha. So we were yelling from the top of the steps to them that we give up and they should come out.

We then saw someone run past the bottom of the stairs. So we started yelling, "come on we saw you guys! Come on up!" No one came up, so we went to the living room to play some games and figured they'd get bored eventually. Then they come down the living room staircase asking what we were doing. There is a stairway from the kitchen as well that connects at the top of the living room stairs, but there is absolutely no way they could have run up those and down the living room stairs in time to have played a trick on us, and they claim they weren't hiding in the basement. Needless to say we were done playing hide and seek that night. Lol.

My aunt once saw a dead person hanging at the top of the living room / kitchen steps. Not sure how long it was there, she was reluctant to talk about it when I asked her since my cousin was in the room and we were young at the time. I don't think he knew about that yet, so.

My cousin has seen some weird things, like an angelic being walking around before and some weirder things like a swirling glowing vortex in a doorway.

They've heard voices and cupboards slamming when no one else was home...

My brother and 3 cousins were playing in the finished attic and when they were coming back down they went to open the door and about 1/4 of the way open it slammed shut. They couldn't get it to open any farther than that. They had thought my uncle was holding the door to play a joke on them, but he was downstairs. Eventually they got it open, but they don't know why it suddenly gave or why it was slamming itself in the first place.

Tons more things too hehehehe.

My mom used to be into Quija boards and stuff, and once in awhile she'd have an out of body experience and be able to watch herself from a distance and float around her basement.

She was lying in bed one night and the foot of her mattress got lifted up about a foot or 2 and dropped, multiple times. No one else was around.

She has more stories too, but I can't remember them.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 17:01
I think that there is a strong possibilty that ghosts are real, considering my own experiences. But logically ghosts couldnt exist, as without our mind we are nothing..no feelings, no personality etc. I think alot of these experiences come from either mass hysteria like you would see on a physic show or letting your mind trick you. Im quite religious in a sence I believe in a creator/God, so thoughts of trapped souls stuck on earth seems quite normal to me lol.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 19:17
Those \"most haunted\" TV shows are bullpoop though
Why do they always go at night with no lights on and say \"what was that, what was that, aah crap I\'m getting out of here\"
come on you idiots

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 19:33
Didn't one of those TV shows cock up and admitted on air by accident that they just made it all up? Not exactly a surprise, but the ratings kept being just as high. Class.

I also watched a program that had this bloke do the whole "I can sense someone called David in the room. Does someone know David..." routine. At the end everyone was amazed at what he could do and after a vote a large majority said there was ghosts. He then said it was all rubbish and he was a professor using common tricks. They did another vote and pretty much had the same large majority believing in ghosts.

At the end of the day, real or false, it is understandable why people *need* to believe in something after death. Especially as you get older. Personally I'm hoping for eternal 80's glam rock mixed with a rock club. Now wheres my old black T-shirts and big hair?

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 20:07
If you think about it it's pretty stupid that people worry about what will happen after they die, you don't worry about what happened before you were born do you?
You wont exist so it wont matter either way.
Unless you're religious

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 20:57
You know, that a good point OBese87. If i were to become a ghost after i die, then yay! If not, well i wouldn't really care then would i?

Everyone is welcomed to believe as much as they want in ghosts, but when it comes down to it, does it really matter? I'd rather focus on things that will affect me in this life so i can make the best out of it. I'll worry about my potensial second life when i'm dead.

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Posted: 17th Sep 2007 21:32
Quote: "I'll worry about my potensial second life when i'm dead."


Well, let's just hope by then it's not too late

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I wonder why ghosts are always mysterious like, why not come up to us and say "Hi, how are you?" or "Hi, I'm steve, I used to live next door". Why always haunting?

Yes to some extent I believe in ghosts.


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Quote: "well go ahead laugh at zombie"

Ha, ha!

@dark donkey, I'd stay away from science, because you seem to know very little about it.

@OBese87, I've wondered what it was like before I was alive since I was four. I got totally freaked out about the idea of not existing. Probably the scariest thing I can imagine.

@Grandma, you're an awful procrastinator, you know that?

I don't think I'd want to be a ghost though. That would suck, and why would a ghost ever take human shape unless that's how our minds interpret it? Assuming there is such things as souls, then do they look like people? If so, do they wear clothes? Why don't we see our soul arm if our arm gets cut off? Does the soul in our arm die too? Or does the soul take on a self image, or just project itself into our minds? What if things like ghosts are just random bits of energy flying through our heads, causing our bodies to react to thing that aren't happening, and perhaps a memory of a person or our imaginings of one get imprinted our our eye for a moment like a bright flash of light? What if ghosts only exist because people believe they do? And if ghosts represent the afterlife, why are we afraid of them? Why do we assume that ghosts are human spirits?

I wish people would be a bit more open minded, as in try to come to more than one conclusion about things. It's not against the law to play with ideas. It's actually kind of fun.

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Yea, I'm going with Bizar on this one. We literally have no idea what "ghosts" are, as most of us seem to refer to them as being able to make sounds, appear as images, ect. For all we know, they could be a form of energy we know nothing about, or some kind of being that can't be seen because it exists in another spectrum of light.

I've had a few experiences where I can swear there were ghosts involved, including a time a large container fell off a shelf upstairs when my entire family was down stairs at dinner. Now this was a very heavy container and the majority of it was on the shelf. Even if it wasn't, the shelf above it would have caught the container as it fell.

Ghosts are a cool and very interesting idea, I can't understand why people think "believers" only think they exist for spiritual reasons.

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Haha, some might look at me like that, I would have no choice but to disagree, naturally. From my perspective, i just like being effective. I don't have time to worry about ghosts or things science have a hard time explaining. Don't get me wrong, i'm totally open minded, but as previously stated, wether i believe in ghosts or not doesn't play a role as to wether i become one or not. That's what i believe, if it turns out that's not true (which it could, who knows?), then i'll be dead and won't care. Win-win.

Now excuse me, i don't have time for this, must be effective somewhere else!

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Well I have had many encounters to, I actually go to haunted places and stay there.

Some of My Experiences,

-- I have seen a mysterious lady in white down this old country road.

-- Every now and then I hear mysterious whispering just like mumbling.

-- Thing almost feels like just jump on my bed and pull the covers off.

-- Heavy breathing in my room @ night.

That is about all. I'm sure there will be more tonight.

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Posted: 18th Sep 2007 02:11
Nope--- not afraid of ghosts in the slightest, and I don't believe they exist. I went camping a few weekends ago and slept on the ground without a tent by the campfire. I was just worried about grizzly bears!

All of the stories I read by people who claim to have experienced weird phenomena can be explained. Whispers at night? Old ladies wearing white? Come on peoples

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Yeah there is usally a good explanation, quite alot of these experiences are usally water pipes rumbling or wind flinging doors open! lol I did watch a TV programme quite a while ago about how we can slip into a dream state while still being awake and see things that arent real. I didnt really go into specifics before about my experiences but everyone seems to be sharing, but mine arnt quite as horrific as seeing spooky ladies lol
Just general things such as doors slamming repeatly, footsteps etc...which is quite weird most ghosts dont have feet lol

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Posted: 18th Sep 2007 04:25 Edited at: 18th Sep 2007 05:10
Quote: "-- I have seen a mysterious lady in white down this old country road."


your neighbor

Quote: "-- Every now and then I hear mysterious whispering just like mumbling."


you left a television on.

Quote: "-- Thing almost feels like just jump on my bed and pull the covers off."


weight of the blankets/covers slide off the bed.

Quote: "-- Heavy breathing in my room @ night."


you, after a tiring day.

yup, everything can be explained.

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Quote: "yup, everything can be explained."


Under certain circumstances, of course.

1. It doesn't sound like he was anywhere near his neighbors house. I don't know of many people who walk around in the middle of nowhere in a white dress

2. I'm sure he would have found the tv turned on and said, oh so thats what that was.

3. What would have cause the jumping onto the bed feeling before the covers fell off

4. I'm sure he'd know if he was breathing hard

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Quote: "1. It doesn't sound like he was anywhere near his neighbors house. I don't know of many people who walk around in the middle of nowhere in a white dress

2. I'm sure he would have found the tv turned on and said, oh so thats what that was.

3. What would have cause the jumping onto the bed feeling before the covers fell off

4. I'm sure he'd know if he was breathing hard"


That kind of "evidence" would not hold up in court. You can't just say "well I don't know many people who walk around in a white dress". There's nothing solid there at all

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Well, there's nothing solid in saying it's his neighbor when he's nowhere near home. I was just telling him I could counter his "evidence" with other random "evidence"

Truth is you don't have to believe any of the strange stories I posted, but I know they happened, and from mine and my relatives perspectives they can't be explained.

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Well it's up to the "prosecution" per se to prove. It's not up to the skeptics to debunk until there is some substantial proof.

By the way the skeptic society will give $1 million to anyone who can prove *any* kind of supernatural phenomena (ghosts, psychics, etc.) The offer has been open for years and nobody has been able to claim it.

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I can't prove anything unfortunately. I don't have any evidence. Only memories and trust in the people who told me these stories.

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heh..a cool million huh? I think zombie's going to be rich then, I know a perfect place with all the evidence people could ever want..where's this skeptics society jeku, I've got a barn to show them.

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no.

most occurance of "paranormal" (i personally get a laugh out of that word, if these things actually existed, it'd be 'normal' - the word is like a self contained oxymoron) can be attributed to various weirdness and glitches in our perception and thought process. Here's some;

-Very low frequency noise (17Hz) can't be heard, but it can make you feel a presence in the room. Can be caused by air-con, computer fans, dodgy speakers and so on.

-Positive selection of Evidence, where we tend to take the evidence that supports our previous stand point.

-There's a whole part of our brain dedicated to recognising human faces (i'll see if i can find that out), its the reason that the headlights and grill of cars look like faces, we're wired up to spot anthromorphs.

-Pattern Spotting - this is a big one - we're hardwired to spot patterns, its how we learn - however it causes us to make lots of mistakes too, like making us superstitious... Hell, its been proven that you can make a mouse superstitious. (I'll find a link for that too)


Apart from the facts, theres also a philosophical angle to it... If ghosts truely are real, and they're the souls of the dead who for one reason or another wander the earth... Isn't that a fate worse than death? Why would anyone want ghosts to be real? I mean... would you want to be a ghost?

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Well manic I just can't agree with you, nobody can ever debunk what I've seen, I'll tell the story if you like but I urge you to try and prove me wrong, this one is iron-clad.

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Alrighty, i am tired so this story may not come out complete because the bed is calling to me but here we go.

There is an old faded barn up on the state hunting grounds that aren't used in the winter..well just like many small towns, there's always those places with legends, this one is of this barn that a man became possessed and killed his family and in his final moments hung himself, it is said that he came to his senses and realised what he had done or that it was the cruel trickery of the demon's last terrible act on humanity, this story has no releveance to my experience except for the location.

So time for a layout of the place, there is a short place that would more than likely act as a parking lot, then there is a small gate that you can easily duck under. The next thing you would see is a narrow path, stone on the ground with grass growing on the sides and foliage all around you, you cannot really see the meadow next to you as its raiesd on the ground, walking down this path for about 20 or so feet and you will come out to our infamous barn which has always had just the creepiest feel about it, its locked in every way but the something just makes you feel like you want to die when you go up to it. Anway..enough exposition here is what happened.

My friends knowing I was an avid ghost hunter at the time took me to this place since they had had experiences there as well and were telling me about them. They all went beyond the gate and started to walk down..it was my first time at this barn so I was still behind the gate looking around, I just had a terrible feeling about the place..it got a bit harder to breathe and the air just felt I guess wrong is the best way to put it, something didn't feel right. Well after ten minutes or so they all came up and said hey aren't you coming down and I said I wasn't moving beyond the gate yet because I had such a bad feeling...they were trying to explain to me that only the scary stuff happened around the barn and that I would be fine on the walkway, so I figured hey its about 30ft. away I'll walk with them. I ducked under the gate and felt even worse and then I finally got to see what scared me.

By one of the trees not ten feet away from stood a seven foot figure, *no its no-one we know or nobody they could've called in to scare me, I was the tallest one out all of us* and it had red eyes, those were the most distinguishable attribute about them, their skin I guess you could call it that, it had almost a pulse to it as though it quivered in the air. It looked at me and I felt like I wanted to die, my friends had backed beyond the gate and had been calling my name for a few minutes as this thing stared at me, they finally came up and pulled me away, the thing just kept staring at me the whole way, I didn't want to look back as we drove away, I was too afraid it would follow us if I did.

Went back the next day to check on the spot where it was, *we had gone at 3:00 am to ensure maximum darkness for whatever might happen, but we did have flashlights too. When we got there I ran out of the car and up to the gate, I still felt like something terrible was here, my one friend wally walked with me to the spot where we all saw the creature and all around where he was standing was dead..as though they hadn't been watered in months, but not but a few blades around the area was green and lush, no sign of tamper could be found either so nobody was f'ing with us.

Now this part could be very easily a concidence and I'm sure it is..when we walked down the path to see the barn in the daylight I was staring at the barn and not my surroundings and out of nowhere there was a violinist who just decided to start playing when we came out of the walkway, he was quite hidden from view. I got a bad feeling from him and my friend talked to him but I stayed far away from him, I wouldn't take my eyes off of him, something just was too weird, I had been to this place every day whenceforth to see if he would come back and he never did, I know it could be conicidence but I choose to believe it was something else, and the black creature was real, it was in the physical and its eyes, those eyes were so red.

Thats what happened, you debunk it and I'll go to a therapist and request a session.. thats a promise. Call me crazy but you'll never ever get me to believe that what I saw was not there, I know my feelings and I trust my eyes..I know I saw something otherworldly that night and I will never ever go to that barn at night again, we had gone one more time at night and it was the second scariest experience of my life, but thats another story for another time.

Zom


*note I think I've told this story somewhere in the forums before, but never the full thing, so this is the whole story.*

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Posted: 18th Sep 2007 14:43
Quote: "By one of the trees not ten feet away from stood a seven foot figure, *no its no-one we know or nobody they could've called in to scare me, I was the tallest one out all of us* and it had red eyes"


A bear? Most night dwelling animals have highly reflective eyes which could have made them appear to glow red as you often see with cats. That's the problem with doing all these things in pitch black conditions, you'll see something that you don't fully understand and you think it's the worst and run off. I'm sure if you actually had a decent torch then you could have quite easily seen what was actually there. You can say things like you trust what you saw blah blah, but no one is denying that, that is what you think you saw or wanted to see.

Like Manic said most of these 'paranormal' experiences can be explained, if I'm walking down some dark place and hear some rustling in the bushes I sure don't think it must be some ghost, but as you went there expecting to look for one your first instinct would be to tell you it is one.

And for the record I do not believe for one second in ghosts/UFOs/Alien abduction etc etc.

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Posted: 18th Sep 2007 14:46
Well if it was a bear I'm damn lucky then...that could have ended badly eh?

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Posted: 18th Sep 2007 15:51
I did have a diferent post ready, but i checked to see if you'd posted back first (and then went to lunch half way through writing it);


You have to admit that your story isn't exactly iron-clad, surely?

You asked me to try and debunk it, so I guess I'll have a go, although as you've already made up your mind - what with being a self professed ghost hunter and all - I'm not sure what use it'll be.

Firstly, you arrived and according to your story, you were expecting to see something, so if I can refer you to my previous post about selection of supporting evidence, you'd have already been pre-disposed to 'seeing' something.

Next, I want to refer again to what I said previously about being pre-disposed to finding faces and shapes in things that don't have them. Think about it, it was 3AM, you're not going to be able to resolve anything that well with your eyes are you? Your brain tends to fill in the blanks with what could be there.

You say you trust your eyes... you really shouldn't. Your eyes don't 'see', they give your brain some information and then your brain sets about creating your perception of reality by the thoughts you have allowed to enter.

so, that's my thoughts anyway. I don't think you should see a therapist because you saw something, we all see things we don't understand or can't explain, but often come to opposite conclusions. I think I'd only suggest you see a therapist if you were cutting runes into yourself because a ghost told you to, which I'm sure you're not - but then that would really be a more psychological problem than paranormal.


Just say suppose that ghosts do exist, what do you think in response to my philisophical stand point? Being a ghost has got to be the worst thing possible surely?

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I remember this particular time in 1993, when I was sleeping in my bed;
I woke up because I kicked something in the bed. I pulled away the quilt and underneath, just below my feet, was a white, as if the light didn't affect it, child.
I screamed but didn't have a voice, so my other decition was to run to my parents room, but they, ofcorse, didn't believe me (or believed, but didn't want to frighten me more).
I don't quite remember what I did after that and therefore I'm not sure if it was a dream or not, but if it was a dream it was so real.

Also, for about 8 months now, I haven't been able to remember anything that I've dreamt, which sucks because everyone talks about such great dreams or awesome dreams they had, and I just have to listen

Sometimes when I wake up I am unable to move my body too :/

I hope I'm not sick or anything. Maybe my dreams are so terrible that the brain forgets them and the body is totally exhaused from them

I allways afraided from a clowns. aww..
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@Duplar: Good point. Why all the haunting.

@Bizar Guy: What suggest that may i ask?.
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Posted: 18th Sep 2007 16:42
@Lukas:
to allay your fears;

I'd say that your experience was probably a lucid dream, I had one when i was very young where I could fly, it felt totally real and for a long time I honestly believed I could do it. It terrified my parents, who ended up having to lock all the windows in the house incase I tried it out... thing is, it was in the middle of August, so my ambitions made the house pretty uncomfortable.

As for forgetting your dreams, that's supposed to happen, it means you've woken up during your lightest phase of sleep and will have a hard time remembering them. Its best not to talk about your dreams too much, they reveal quite a lot about your subconcience and you never know who's listening in and reading the sub-text!

Lastly, what you're discribing is sleep paralysis, its completely normal and an evolved mechanism. You can induce it while you're awake by lying very still on your back and totally relaxing.

You're not ill, don't panic.

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